Former: iloome CURVED Edge Full Edge-to-Edge Tempered Glass screen protector [ScreenM

frifra

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Hi what happened to this thread if I may ask?

Was it against MacRumors policy or was it my question? ;) Thanks
 

iloomeOfficial

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Yeah, it was against the forum policy to make a thread ourselves. (Sorry mods!) We're only allowed to answer questions regarding our products, but no self-promotions.

_EDIT_ we would be happy to send you some links to photos if you'd like though!
 

frifra

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Just in case this thread stays "alive"

Could you tell me, why there is no 2nd hole above the speaker cut out? I thought there would be 2 sensors, as I have seen other screen protectors with 2 holes. Thank you.
 

iloomeOfficial

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Just in case this thread stays "alive"

Could you tell me, why there is no 2nd hole above the speaker cut out? I thought there would be 2 sensors, as I have seen other screen protectors with 2 holes. Thank you.
_EDIT_ Let me get back to you. I might have had the wrong information.
 
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boshii

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Just in case this thread stays "alive"

Could you tell me, why there is no 2nd hole above the speaker cut out? I thought there would be 2 sensors, as I have seen other screen protectors with 2 holes. Thank you.
There's only one sensor above the speaker cutout and it's the ambient light sensor.

The other cutout to the left is for the camera.
 

frifra

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There's only one sensor above the speaker cutout and it's the ambient light sensor.

The other cutout to the left is for the camera.
But why do the the screen protectors from other companies e.g. Benks have 2 cut outs right above the speaker, apart from the camera cut out?

Here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1852750


And here are even more examples:

- http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T8VQH40?psc=1 (IEGrow Titanium Alloy + Tempered Glass iPhone 6 Plus Screen )
- http://www.amazon.com/Covering-Designed-Lifetime-Warranty-Protector/dp/B00PIAMY88 ( Beluga iPhone 6, 4.7 inch Only *Full Screen Design* Covering Edge to Edge )
- http://www.amazon.com/Protector-Protection-Including-Scratch-Resistant-Installation/dp/B00OIJ29Y4/ (iPhone 6 Screen Protector, ESR® Full Screen Tempered Glass )

- an early pic from the iphone 6 showing another sensor "space": http://www.gizmobic.com/iphone-6-images-matching-front-panel/

And if you scroll down here to the last picture from iFixit (https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+6+Front+Facing+Camera+and+Sensor+Cable+Replacement/31672), I think one can as well see a second sensor above the speaker. Look closely.

iphone 4 and 5 had such sensors (pic from http://www.macmania.at):


Here another picture (as it shows the back, it is mirrored) I see two sensors:


Here a picture from iFixit again with some info:


And now for comparison the new iloome:

 
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Nipommu

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Any chance you're going to make a black with gloss glass finish?i think people prefer the clean sleek look of the black and white surfaces
 

iloomeOfficial

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But why do the the screen protectors from other companies e.g. Benks have 2 cut outs right above the speaker, apart from the camera cut out?

Here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1852750
Image

And here are even more examples:

- http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T8VQH40?psc=1 (IEGrow Titanium Alloy + Tempered Glass iPhone 6 Plus Screen )
- http://www.amazon.com/Covering-Designed-Lifetime-Warranty-Protector/dp/B00PIAMY88 ( Beluga iPhone 6, 4.7 inch Only *Full Screen Design* Covering Edge to Edge )
- http://www.amazon.com/Protector-Protection-Including-Scratch-Resistant-Installation/dp/B00OIJ29Y4/ (iPhone 6 Screen Protector, ESR® Full Screen Tempered Glass )

- an early pic from the iphone 6 showing another sensor "space": http://www.gizmobic.com/iphone-6-images-matching-front-panel/

And if you scroll down here to the last picture from iFixit (https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+6+Front+Facing+Camera+and+Sensor+Cable+Replacement/31672), I think one can as well see a second sensor above the speaker. Look closely.

iphone 4 and 5 had such sensors (pic from http://www.macmania.at):
Image

Here another picture (as it shows the back, it is mirrored) I see two sensors:
Image

Here a picture from iFixit again with some info:
Image

And now for comparison the new iloome:

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Your response has been noted and we will be going with 2-hole design. Thank you for your feedback! :)
 

boshii

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But why do the the screen protectors from other companies e.g. Benks have 2 cut outs right above the speaker, apart from the camera cut out?

Here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1852750
Image

And here are even more examples:

- http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T8VQH40?psc=1 (IEGrow Titanium Alloy + Tempered Glass iPhone 6 Plus Screen )
- http://www.amazon.com/Covering-Designed-Lifetime-Warranty-Protector/dp/B00PIAMY88 ( Beluga iPhone 6, 4.7 inch Only *Full Screen Design* Covering Edge to Edge )
- http://www.amazon.com/Protector-Protection-Including-Scratch-Resistant-Installation/dp/B00OIJ29Y4/ (iPhone 6 Screen Protector, ESR® Full Screen Tempered Glass )

- an early pic from the iphone 6 showing another sensor "space": http://www.gizmobic.com/iphone-6-images-matching-front-panel/

And if you scroll down here to the last picture from iFixit (https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+6+Front+Facing+Camera+and+Sensor+Cable+Replacement/31672), I think one can as well see a second sensor above the speaker. Look closely.

iphone 4 and 5 had such sensors (pic from http://www.macmania.at):
Image

Here another picture (as it shows the back, it is mirrored) I see two sensors:
Image

Here a picture from iFixit again with some info:
Image

And now for comparison the new iloome:

Image
Ahh my mistake. I did forget about the ambient light sensor.
 

frifra

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Well, I don't know which sensor is which of the 2 above the speaker/receiver.

When I make a phone call and I cover the sensor which is in the center above the speaker/receiver, the display goes black (as if you are taking a call). But I dont't know which sensor is responsible for that (meaning I don't know if the proximity or the ambient light sensor triggers this). If the one in the center, which you can clearly see is the proximity sensor and the one on its left (phone display facing you) is the ambient light sensor, then the ambient light sensor cannot work, as it cannot work through metal etc.


EDIT: http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/13/hardware-test-your-iphone-4/
according to this link, the hole in the center above the speaker/receiver should be the proximity sensor. This one triggers to shut off the touchscreen/display when making a phone call and holding the phone close. Ergo, the other sensor on the left above the speaker/receiver should be the ambient light sensor. With the iloome screen protector the ambient light sensor would then always think it is dark.



I tested it myself and you can too:


Sit in a room which has only indirect light and is not too bright (sun etc.)

All you need is a flashlight and a thick piece of black paper.

1. Go to Settings>Display & Brightness> Turn off Auto-Brightness

2. Set your brightness to maximum (more or less)

3. Now put a piece if black paper on top of the phone (the space above the speaker/receiver and the space left from the visible centered proximity sensor)

4. Your phone thinks now, that it is dark.

5. Turn on Auto-Brightness => Your Brightness will now go to 50% or less.

6. Take a flash light and hold it really close above the phone (where the speaker/receiver is). I took a Cree XML-T6 (with 3xAAA).

7. As long as your ambient light sensor is covered, nothing will happen, but keep the flashlight on and remove the black paper => Your brightness will now go up more and more (as Auto Brighness is on).

I doubt that you will have the same effect with the new iLoome display protector, as the metal is clearly covering the ambien light sensor.

EDIT 2 => ok iLoome will change it, so that all sensors work :)
 
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iloomeOfficial

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I'm sorry, I must have said stuff that's confusing.

To clarify:
The camera hole will be open.
Speaker will be open.
Proximity sensor will be open.
Ambient light sensor will be open.

When I said 2 holes, I meant the sensors will be uncovered. :) I'll post the product again next week once it's readily available. (It'll have 4 holes)

Sincerest apologies for any confusion.
 

pocketdoc

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What is the edge made out of? Painted glass or is there glass in the center with a frame attached?

I have tried a "titanium" framed glass that fit well, but there were issues with glass edge adherence. Nice idea to keep the glass off the edges, as this is where the chipping/cracking typically occurs first.

Are you using Gorilla Glass?


I'm sorry, I must have said stuff that's confusing.

To clarify:
The camera hole will be open.
Speaker will be open.
Proximity sensor will be open.
Ambient light sensor will be open.

When I said 2 holes, I meant the sensors will be uncovered. :) I'll post the product again next week once it's readily available. (It'll have 4 holes)

Sincerest apologies for any confusion.
 

frifra

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I'm sorry, I must have said stuff that's confusing.

To clarify:
The camera hole will be open.
Speaker will be open.
Proximity sensor will be open.
Ambient light sensor will be open.

When I said 2 holes, I meant the sensors will be uncovered. :) I'll post the product again next week once it's readily available. (It'll have 4 holes)

Sincerest apologies for any confusion.
Great ;). Let's call it 4-hole all in :D
 

iloomeOfficial

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What is the edge made out of? Painted glass or is there glass in the center with a frame attached?

I have tried a "titanium" framed glass that fit well, but there were issues with glass edge adherence. Nice idea to keep the glass off the edges, as this is where the chipping/cracking typically occurs first.

Are you using Gorilla Glass?
Edges are made out of proprietary xAl-4Cr Alloy, meaning it's not glass. The frame will NOT chip or crack, because it's not glass! Glass is in the center with the frame attached.

As for tempered glass, we used a premium quality soda-lime. We have detailed specification for its ability to withstand 18% more stress then any other brands.
 

Ta0jin

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Edges are made out of proprietary xAl-4Cr Alloy, meaning it's not glass. The frame will NOT chip or crack, because it's not glass! Glass is in the center with the frame attached.

As for tempered glass, we used a premium quality soda-lime. We have detailed specification for its ability to withstand 18% more stress then any other brands.
I'm pretty sure this was iloome but what happened to that curved glass screen shield you guys posted awhile back any progress on that?
 

shamashu

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The Max looks cheap because of the colored bezel on top of the glass. All transparent glass is better and more elegant. I hope you still continue the previous prototype

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No, it would not. We tested the 1-hole design very extensively and had no issues with it at all.

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This photo looks like a bubble gum sticked on the phone's surface.