Because epic lied and made changes to the app to skirt apples system. What you wrote above is a sugar coated way of saying epic attempting to defraud apple.
Because of the above.
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HobeSoundDarryl
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I live in the USA. I have no choice in this matter. If I want apps, I get them from the ONE "company store" because the "land of the free" isn't as free in this way... and select citizens in that land of the free will then argue why limiting flexibility to get apps from more than a single source is a very positive thing for everyone.
These laws only affect our Apple friends in the countries where they apply.
And no, people don't buy Apple devices solely to be locked down to a single store. They buy Apple devices- as I do- for the vast pile of many great benefits... and then put up with select shortcomings. I doubt ANYONE goes into an Apple store to lay down about $1K because they want to be limited to getting apps from only one source. I 100% suspect it's "the rest" of many benefits that motivates such purchases... even with select limiting factors such as this one.
You're okay with people being harmed with malware because it's "fun to watch"? Not a good look, buddy.
Either way, the DMA has provisions to allow Apple to scan each and every package installed out of their App Store for malware, and that's part of the implementation.
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A few ways:
- Apple engineers working on EU-mandated features aren’t working on fixing bugs/new features that are actually useful.
- Added complexity to the OS increases likelihood of bugs
- Apple decides a cool new feature that won’t fly in Europe due to the DMA isn’t worth further fragmenting the OS
- Wait until an app you use for your job decides it’s leaving the App Store. (Download Photoshop on the Adobe App Store! Don’t read the fine print, we promise it’s just as easy to cancel your subscription as it is on the old App Store. Adobe thanks the DMA for protecting EU consumers!)
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Great twist: you know what I mean. EU people will have the flexibility to choose any apps from the App Store and select apps not in the App Store for whatever reason. If they want them- such at this game- they will have an easy option to have them. The rest of us have no such choice because Daddy says no... and we let on like that's a good thing for us and how the rest of the world should be under the very same thumb too.
"Think different!" No matter how one feels about this topic, the laws are in place, Apple is complying and the certain doom & disaster some foresee will rain upon the EU... or not. IMO: we can keep crying "Wolf! Wolf!" but until there actually is a wolf, the villagers should wise up and not come.
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And we will enjoy getting new features on our computing devices while the EU gets left in the dust because of overregulation. I have never not had what I needed available on my phone in terms of apps.
I have, many times.
What you call the EU's overregulation, I call the US's under regulation.
One of my first computers back in the day was a windows 3.1 PC. Boy can I remember the nightmare of malware, viruses, spyware. Having to wipe my computer clean every few months. It was the Wild Wild West for bad actors. I don’t miss that era at all. I don’t want that experience again, on the most important personal device I carry around with me at all times. Those problems can stay at home on my computer, if they should happen. Just my opinion.
I’ve also became less reliant on Google over the years. I don’t want to give all my personal info over to an advertising company, basically. They act like this holy grail of a company who gives so much, but in truth they just want to suck you dry of all your personal information to profit off of it. Again, just my 2 cents.
The irony of what you're saying is that both the U.S. tech media and Google thought that Apple's console style control of software was a weakness and not a strength. That's why Android's marketing was entirely centered around "look what you can do with Android that you can't do on iOS". The prediction for iPhone was that it would be a successful niche market just like the Mac.
I know what you wrote: that users can install any software they want...which isn't true. Users can only install the software that developers choose to make available for a particular platform.
No need to want this. It WILL happen. Russia, China, Iran and every cyber-terrorist organization will exploit this new attack surface.
People’s lives will be ruined, jobs lost, personal wealth disappear…
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
If any of that is that onerous for Apple, they could have dumped that market of about 400M people. Apple chose to keep making the money, so obviously compliance cost is not overriding their profit motive.
And I'm in the USA... so the ONLY place I can get apps "I need for my job" is the one App Store. However, if I was in the EU, I'd simply get a crucial app from the developer or switch to one of a dozen clones of any given app if I refused to get apps from stores other than Apples.
Since you brought up Photoshop as an example: several years ago when Adobe went subscription model, I opted to go Pixelmator and subsequently dropped all use of Photoshop.
Furthermore, this idea of companies yanking their apps from the App Store will likely result in them taking huge hits to revenue. There's more than a decade of all iDevice users being programmed to get apps from the one store. Yank your app from that store and those who don't even think about third party stores will no longer find & buy your app. I do believe some players will pull their apps... then miss the revenue from the "main" App Store... and put it back again. As it is on the Mac, there are third party stores and placement in the Mac App Store. Why both? Because they make more money by having their app where buyers are vs. demanding buyers buy from only a third party store.
Will there be exceptions? Yes... but clones- like that Pixelmator example- will step in seeking market share.
Again, if you- like me- are NOT in the EU, we are merely witnesses to a market test, unaffected by what happens over "there." The world is throughly programmed to get their apps from the one App Store. That won't unravel overnight... and won't unravel at all if the best store is still that store. Competitor stores will have to overcome the well-entrenched standard... mostly likely through better pricing, better value, bundle offers, etc... and still there will be the great hurdle of driving change from a well-established norm.
If third parties are successful, the one store will need to get more competitive to try to hang on to share... which will likely press Apple to revisit hard number commissions and other policies that led to GOVs having to get involved in this matter. Else, Apple can hold firm to "as is" and watch "better pricing" (and similar) elsewhere siphon away customers.
Competition is ALWAYS good for consumers. No competition is only good for the lone seller.
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
That's missing the point. It's not about "NOT HAVING", it's about what it costs. Having choices of where to get software generally leads to lower cost software. The apps will be exactly the same apps. What they can do for people will be exactly the same. EU people will likely pay less for some of them.
Please read the rest of the DMA, not just the part about App Stores. It requires Apple open any hardware or software feature up to its competitors. Which is why the previous poster noted the EU is going to be missing out on features like Apple Intelligence.
Mobile already has the lowest software pricing of any platform. There really isn't much room for "better pricing". If anything, these companies are hoping that they can raise prices. Example: Spotify.
Yawn....more FUD for the uninformed.
Read the DMA, Apple legally can (and will) scan all apps outside the App Store for malware. They can, and will, block instal of problem apps.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
People have been positing this since long before these laws went into effect in March. Where's ONE example in nearly 4 months now?
Think of the EU as an isolated test cell. They are the only ones with this kind of law in effect. If all these terrorist organizations, crime syndicates, virus makers, trojan makers, ransomware makers, etc are going to so easily "ruin lives, jobs lost, personal wealth disappear", where is ONE example of that? Or are all these thieves & syndicates just extremely patient in executing their nefarious crimes?
How many times do we sling this "Wolf! Wolf!" before the villagers stop coming? Else, show us a wolf... one wolf... how about a wolf track? Anyone? Anyone?
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
When the "right off the top" number is the first 15%-30% for Apple, there is PLENTY of room for a developer to take perhaps HALF of what they would have had Apple take as first bite while still delivering lower prices to consumers.
And the law goes BEYOND only the single transaction. It also applies to ongoing transactions AFTER transaction #1.
I don't get it. He expect apple to give him full access to a system they are developing and maintaining for free?
Does he give game developers access to his store for free or does he take "junk fees" from them?
Does he give game developers access to his store for free or does he take "junk fees" from them?
Has the EU actually said Apple can do this? Because until they say that’s allowed I wouldn’t count on it - seems to go against the “spirit of the law” for Apple to block apps
What app prices dropped after Apple lowered their cut from 30% to 15% for most apps? I’ll wait.
This is unfortunately true.
IAP are a cancer on games, with massive resources poured into how to game players into spending maximum amounts.
A friend of mine worked for a relatively successful and known mobile game company and he told me that in customer support, a VIP level customer for them was someone who spent at least $1000 per MONTH on the game