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Fortnite Returns to U.S. App Store

dominiongamma said:
Yeah, but the money grab days are over!
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Good. I hope Apple lowers their support and the apps get less checks so they run like crap. Good luck cancelling all those subscriptions from random websites your kid signed up for but you don’t know.

We’re already seeing the Goverment run on fumes, let’s see Apple do the same if they are making less.
 
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Orange Bat said:
Apple is going to have to come to terms with the fact that their App Store monopoly is quickly coming to an end. While that’s bad for Apple (obviously), it’s good for developers and consumers. Phones desperately need more competition, but the entry to the hardware market is very difficult today. Perhaps at least software will get more competitive.
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If I were Apple I’d spend a lot more time on GenAi than on defending the App Store now.

As you correctly say, the App Store is part of the last era of tech (the smartphone era), even though it’s not yet apparent that it’s ending.

Google - with their advances in GenAi & inserting Ai into search & their agentic ai, are poised to take over from the App Store.

Why use apps when your personal assistent can do and find most things for you ?

oh and google’s hardware and software isn’t too shabby nowadays also…

If was high up in Apple, I’d be very worried not just for the App Store but that most of their business could fairly quickly be superseded in this new era (AI era) that’s starting.
 
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surferfb said:
I think the key is Apple hasn’t banned Epic Sweden (the subsidiary that the EU made Apple allow on the store). So as long as Epic Sweden isn’t banned they get to release stuff that follows the rules.

Apple can’t ban Epic Sweden without angering the EU regulators. So Apple’s stuck (unless the Appeals court pulls through)
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I did say epic would be back on sooner or later because no good would come out of deliberately keeping them off the USA IOS App Store.
 
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bluecoast said:
If was high up in Apple, I’d be very worried not just for the App Store but that most of their business could fairly quickly be superseded in this new era (AI era) that’s starting.
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An era that Apple had everything to play as a leader had they invested into it instead of letting Siri stagnate for more than a decade.

Given Apple's resources and the fact they released what effectively was poised to be an "AI assistant" in 2011... it's such a failure that they are so behind today.
 
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TechWhisperer said:
So Tim Cook has no spine. This is the beginning of the end for Apple.
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It’s not that Tim Cook has no spine
It’s simply this if he blocked epic from the USA iOS App Store then what would have happened is simply this if you challenge apple they can destroy your business and this will send a message to every developer out there.
That is why currently epic are back on
 
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You guys talking about 30% cuts realize that’s only for devs that make $1million in revenue per year now right? Anything smaller the cut is now 15%. So for the vast vast majority of app devs that sell smaller apps the cut is 15%.
 
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Zapski said:
Honestly though, hasn’t Fortnite peaked? I mean is it still the powerhouse game it was or has it faded? I honestly don’t know. What I do know is that my Gamer friends never talk about it, one actively hates it, and it really only gets talked about in these articles about the lawsuit

So I ask again, how popular is it really?
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FYI

(Seems just a "few" folks still enjoy the game) ;)


Fortnite continues to dominate the industry, with over 60 million daily active users in 2025. The game’s player base has reached 650 million registered users, marking a 30% increase from 500 million in 2022.

www.demandsage.com

Fortnite Statistics 2025 — Revenue & Player Demographics

Fortnite has over 650 million registered players. Get detailed Fortnite statistics on its player count, revenue, and demographics inside.
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Forgive this middle aged guy my lack of understanding of this caper.

If I decide not to let someone inside my house, that someone might not be happy about it but it’s my house so they can’t come in.

Why can’t Apple decide who can or cannot come into their house?
 
vanilla.coffee said:
Forgive this middle aged guy my lack of understanding of this caper.

If I decide not to let someone inside my house, that someone might not be happy about it but it’s my house so they can’t come in.

Why can’t Apple decide who can or cannot come into their house?
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That’s not a good analogy.

When you are a de facto duopoly you cannot engage in anti-competitive practices, and excluding a now-compliant Fortnite would be seen as retaliatory.
 
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surferfb said:
I suspect in the (probably unlikely) event Apple gets an injunction on the judge’s order, or it is eventually overturned/modified on appeal, Epic will be back off the store within a week.
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Maybe.
It’d be yet another (small) legal win - yet another small lingering blow to Apple’s reputation.

Naraxus said:
You're absolutely right. It's 20 years too long.
20 years too long that Apple's given developers a safe, successful place to distribute their apps. 20 years too long that Apple has given developers the tools & resources to build their apps.
All for free I might add.
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Don’t give away something for free to monopolise a market - and then complain when a select customers push back against the extorting you subject them to.

vanilla.coffee said:
Forgive this middle aged guy my lack of understanding of this caper
If I decide not to let someone inside my house, that someone might not be happy about it but it’s my house so they can’t come in.
Why can’t Apple decide who can or cannot come into their house?
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13 words:
Your house is not 50% of real estate in the entire country.
 
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Cameront9 said:
You guys talking about 30% cuts realize that’s only for devs that make $1million in revenue per year now right? Anything smaller the cut is now 15%. So for the vast vast majority of app devs that sell smaller apps the cut is 15%.
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So for the majority of transactions the cut is 30%.
 
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surferfb said:
A state courts’ interpretation of their law is supposed to overrule a federal court’s interpretation of that same law
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Wait… what?
I thought federal law overrules state law.
So why should a state court overrule a federal one!?

DEMinSoCAL said:
Where did you get your law degree? Just curious how you know so much about the case to place judgement on the Judge? Or are you are of a new class of people who when they don't get their way, the Judge is corrupt?
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He’s apparently been learning from the very best (…president the U.S. of A. has ever had).

russell_314 said:
In a perfect world that would be great. In the real world when you offer those two options, one of them goes away.
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Not when you price it competitively.
 
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And with this Apple’s humiliation is complete. Their big long tantrum brought them nothing but shame and they ended up paying a much bigger price than they would have if they had been more reasonable from the start
 
vanilla.coffee said:
Forgive this middle aged guy my lack of understanding of this caper.

If I decide not to let someone inside my house, that someone might not be happy about it but it’s my house so they can’t come in.

Why can’t Apple decide who can or cannot come into their house?
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Because it’s not a house
It’s a business that only has two proper competitors that’s why
They are back on
 
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bsolar said:
An era that Apple had everything to play as a leader had they invested into it instead of letting Siri stagnate for more than a decade.

Given Apple's resources and the fact they released what effectively was poised to be an "AI assistant" in 2011... it's such a failure that they are so behind today.
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Yeah it’s a monumental failure by their senior leadership.

They got complacent and then ChatGPT came along. And they were still complacent.

I think it’s now too late for Apple to develop anything internally that could ever allow them to catch up.

Maybe an acquisition could do it.

But I wonder if 2026’s iPhone experience will be pretty similar to 2007’s - Apple’s hardware and software user experience powered by google’s unmatchable services.

(but not yahoo, who provided the iPhone’s launch email service somewhat bizarrely looking back in the rear view mirror!)
 
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Naraxus said:
How many time does it need to be said before people get it? Apple does not now, nor has it EVER had a monopoly.

Disagree? Ok. Prove me wrong.
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Love how haters don't understand that most coke vending machines only sell coke drinks and pepsi vending machines only sell pepsi drinks.

By their dumb logic, coke must be allowed to sell their drinks in pepsi machines! Otherwise it's a MONOPOLY 🙄
 
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bluecoast said:
Yeah it’s a monumental failure by their senior leadership.

They got complacent and then ChatGPT came along. And they were still complacent.

I think it’s now too late for Apple to develop anything internally that could ever allow them to catch up.

Maybe an acquisition could do it.

But I wonder if 2026’s iPhone experience will be pretty similar to 2007’s - Apple’s hardware and software user experience powered by google’s unmatchable services.

(but not yahoo, who provided the iPhone’s launch email service somewhat bizarrely looking back in the rear view mirror!)
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I totally agree with this because
I don’t believe that apple intelligence was destined for iOS 18
It just looks as if it was tacked onto it at the very last minute
The Siri experience sums up Tim Cook’s leadership at apple at how poor it actually is
 
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