Found an 09 Mac Pro for $40

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
I was at a recycling center this morning and they had pallets of stacked computers. A cheese grater like case caught my eye and I soon realized it was a Mac Pro.

I asked about it and was able to buy it for $40. Everything seems intact and all fans run when powered on. The power light flashes when on and I'm hoping this is due to the lack of ram.

I have an upgraded 06 Pro with 2 x5355. You guys think it will be worth the effort to clean this newer one up and use it or should I stick with my 06 and sell the 09?
 

flowrider

macrumors 603
Nov 23, 2012
5,538
1,964
If you can get the 4,1 Mac Pro to run - it's a huge upgrade over the 1,1 you now have.

Lou
 

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
Heading to the store to get ram to test it. *Fingers Crossed*

----------

Wow, man - that's incredible. Is it a single or dual processor? What a find!
Can't tell because I don't have the rigit length tool to get the heatsink off.
 

crjackson2134

macrumors 601
Mar 6, 2013
4,490
1,624
Charlotte, NC
Heading to the store to get ram to test it. *Fingers Crossed*

----------



Can't tell because I don't have the rigit length tool to get the heatsink off.
You should be able to just look inside and see if there are 2 Heatsinks or one. Also look to see how many RAM slots there are (4 = 1x CPUs 8 = 2x CPUs).

Post a pic of the open case and someone will let you know.
 

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
Then it's a single core. I thought maybe both CPUs were under the giant heatsink.
 

Macsonic

macrumors 65816
Sep 6, 2009
1,473
17
Earth
Then it's a single core. I thought maybe both CPUs were under the giant heatsink.
Wow Great Deal! Even if it's a quad core single cpu, you can upgrade it to a 6 Core 3.33ghz which will make your Mac Pro fly. You can add SSD via PCIe or USB 3.0 card. Enjoy your new machine. :)
 

flowrider

macrumors 603
Nov 23, 2012
5,538
1,964
Then it's a single core. I thought maybe both CPUs were under the giant heatsink.
It's not a single core. It's a single Xeon CPU - 4 cores. But $40 bux - if it works - what a find. It can be upgraded. Lot's of DIY threads here!

Lou
 

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
It's not a single core. It's a single Xeon CPU - 4 cores. But $40 bux - if it works - what a find. It can be upgraded. Lot's of DIY threads here!

Lou

Lol, Yeah that's what I meant. I always get them mixed up.
 

Macsonic

macrumors 65816
Sep 6, 2009
1,473
17
Earth
You guys know if this memory will work? I'm trying to find something cheap and available at frys so I can buy it on my way home tonight.

http://www.frys.com/product/5915524?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
Yes the ram will work from the link you provided. Only note is if your 2009 Mac Pro processor is a quad core, the Mac will downgrade the ram speed from 1333Mhz to 1066Mhz which is fine and still runs ok. If you decide to upgrade the cpu to a six core, the ram speed will be 1333Mhz.
 

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
Yes the ram will work from the link you provided. Only note is if your 2009 Mac Pro processor is a quad core, the Mac will downgrade the ram speed from 1333Mhz to 1066Mhz which is fine and still runs ok. If you decide to upgrade the cpu to a six core, the ram speed will be 1333Mhz.
Great, thanks for clarifying. Just need something cheap to test it out.
 

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
Running into another issue. With the stock video card I get nothing on the display. It powers on and I get the chime but nothing ever comes up on the screen.

I replaced it with my non MAC card and I get something on the display but it simply tells me "no bootable device"

My first thought was holding option on startup but I can't get anything on the display since its a non MAC card!!!

UPDATE: My Windows drive boots fine. Shouldn't I just be able to swap a mac hard drive from my old pro to the new?
 
Last edited:

666sheep

macrumors 68040
Dec 7, 2009
3,623
211
Poland
If OS on this old MP HDD is minimum 10.6.4 - 10.7.5, it will work P&P. If you're running 10.8 or 10.9 with Tiamo's boot.efi, you need to replace boot.efi with original 64-bit one first.
 

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
If OS on this old MP HDD is minimum 10.6.4 - 10.7.5, it will work P&P. If you're running 10.8 or 10.9 with Tiamo's boot.efi, you need to replace boot.efi with original 64-bit one first.
So tiamos boot efi is my issue then.

----------

The computer is a single 2.66 W3520.

Do you still think this machine will outperform my dual CPU 2.66 on my Mac Pro 1,1?

Just kinda debating if its worth all this hassle or if I should just clean it and sell it. If the performance difference is nominal I don't see a in swapping over to this 4,1
 

666sheep

macrumors 68040
Dec 7, 2009
3,623
211
Poland
Depends on what you do.
In single threaded and memory intensive apps 4,1 will be faster. In gaming as well.
In multithreaded apps it won't, unless you'll upgrade CPU to Hex.
I own both: 1,1 with 28GB RAM and 5365s and 4,1 with W3570 and 48GB.
4,1 has undoubtedly higher potential than your current MP.
 

matty1551

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Jul 7, 2009
283
25
Pretty sure I'm gonna sell. The more I think about it, I don't even push the limits on my 1,1. I only bought it because I wanted something more powerful than my 2010 MBP.

The only thing that bothers me about my current mac is startup time. I can take my profits, buy a nice SSD and put the rest in the bank.

Really happy to see that it's fully functional though, thanks for pointing out Tiamo's boot EFI. Definitely didn't think about that causing an issue.
 

CASLondon

macrumors 6502a
Apr 18, 2011
535
0
London
Pretty sure I'm gonna sell. The more I think about it, I don't even push the limits on my 1,1. I only bought it because I wanted something more powerful than my 2010 MBP.

The only thing that bothers me about my current mac is startup time. I can take my profits, buy a nice SSD and put the rest in the bank.

Really happy to see that it's fully functional though, thanks for pointing out Tiamo's boot EFI. Definitely didn't think about that causing an issue.
Just so you know, you could build this into a very nice machine with more future life in it than your current machine.

Also, if you fixed this machine up, I would think you could make a good profit on it. Here in the UK/Europe, there are people bringing over 2009 mac pros, flashing them to 5,1, upgrading the processors, cleaning them up and upgrading, and the prices they get for single processor ones are in the 1500 - 2500 British Pounds range. Now that will be higher than in the US, but still…… it might be worth your while to build it as if you're going to use it yourself, and even if you don't you'll have something to sell for a fair whack
 

NOTNlCE

macrumors 6502a
Oct 11, 2013
907
106
Baltimore, MD
Just so you know, you could build this into a very nice machine with more future life in it than your current machine.

Also, if you fixed this machine up, I would think you could make a good profit on it. Here in the UK/Europe, there are people bringing over 2009 mac pros, flashing them to 5,1, upgrading the processors, cleaning them up and upgrading, and the prices they get for single processor ones are in the 1500 - 2500 British Pounds range. Now that will be higher than in the US, but still…… it might be worth your while to build it as if you're going to use it yourself, and even if you don't you'll have something to sell for a fair whack
+1 - I vote migrate to the '09. It can do everything your 1,1 can do but better. If you're not pushing the limits of your 1,1, the stock Quad Core should be plenty of power for you. You have more PCIe lanes, no limiting front side bus, much more memory capability, faster RAM speeds, hyper threading, more upgradability, and OS X support that doesn't require hacks. In my situation, I would probably sell the 1,1 and use the profits to max out the 4,1 - but of course, your choice. Just my 2 cents. Good luck, and congratulations on the incredible find!
-N
 

DPUser

macrumors 6502a
Jan 17, 2012
864
198
Rancho Bohemia, California
Mactracker shows Geekbench for your 1,1 at 4800

Your 4,1 is listed at 8,100.

The 4,1 should be way faster for ALL tasks, single- and multi-threaded. What NOT NICE said, above: If you can get it working, keep it, not the 1,1. RAM is cheap and faster. PCI is faster. SATA in optical bay. Upgradeable to 5,1. Upgradeable to Mavericks (if you want it!) without modification.
 

m4v3r1ck

macrumors 68020
Nov 2, 2011
2,341
347
The Netherlands
+1 - I vote migrate to the '09. It can do everything your 1,1 can do but better. If you're not pushing the limits of your 1,1, the stock Quad Core should be plenty of power for you. You have more PCIe lanes, no limiting front side bus, much more memory capability, faster RAM speeds, hyper threading, more upgradability, and OS X support that doesn't require hacks. In my situation, I would probably sell the 1,1 and use the profits to max out the 4,1 - but of course, your choice. Just my 2 cents. Good luck, and congratulations on the incredible find!
-N
+1
Great find and just KEEP IT!
Cheers
 

goodcow

macrumors 6502a
Aug 4, 2007
620
298
+1 - I vote migrate to the '09. It can do everything your 1,1 can do but better. If you're not pushing the limits of your 1,1, the stock Quad Core should be plenty of power for you. You have more PCIe lanes, no limiting front side bus, much more memory capability, faster RAM speeds, hyper threading, more upgradability, and OS X support that doesn't require hacks. In my situation, I would probably sell the 1,1 and use the profits to max out the 4,1 - but of course, your choice. Just my 2 cents. Good luck, and congratulations on the incredible find!
-N
Or, if they're not even pushing the 1,1 just get a Mac Mini. It'll use 1/6th the power, saving a lot of money annually.