VirtualRain
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No, I'm saying the opposite... it will be a wash and you may even come out ahead. If you can get $300 for your old CPU and more than $300 in added resale value for your upgraded Mac Pro when you sell it, then you're ahead!
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No, I'm saying the opposite... it will be a wash and you may even come out ahead. If you can get $300 for your old CPU and more than $300 in added resale value for your upgraded Mac Pro when you sell it, then you're ahead!
The original processor would need to be kept during Apple Care though, as the faster unit could be "lost" during a repair/replacement.No, I'm saying the opposite... it will be a wash and you may even come out ahead. If you can get $300 for your old CPU and more than $300 in added resale value for your upgraded Mac Pro when you sell it, then you're ahead!
Once over, it can be sold off, but the time lapse will reduce the amount that it would fetch on the used market.
I'm not saying it won't work out, just that I hope it does. Since it's a quad rather than an Octo, the operation is less troublesome but I would still be very careful not to bend any pins or force something for fear of damaging my system. Often when things have been seated for a while they can stick so I'd be very gentle removing the CPU from it's socket and ditto the heatsink.
Part of my misgivings are based on the fact that I'm looking at it from my perspective. My system is my bread and butter so I wouldn't personally be doing what you're doing. I also think the performance gain is relatively small and not even noticeable for the types of things you're doing with it. I'd use the money for something else.
But that's just my opinion, nothing more.
Part of my misgivings are based on the fact that I'm looking at it from my perspective. My system is my bread and butter so I wouldn't personally be doing what you're doing. I also think the performance gain is relatively small and not even noticeable for the types of things you're doing with it. I'd use the money for something else.
But that's just my opinion, nothing more.
As you told me before
I might build my son a nice system using the 2.66 processor, but if I ever need to get my system repaired(very unlikely, as with my 2008 never had logic board problems).. all I could do is ask him and let him know that "daddy" needs his processor back for warranty repairs.
Again, I rate the mac pro logic board as very rugged and would believe for a SERVER class machine its studiness and durability last a long time.
Yeah, the moment they notice the processor was changed to 3.33, it would most likely be lost as Apple would remove it
I might build my son a nice system using the 2.66 processor, but if I ever need to get my system repaired(very unlikely, as with my 2008 never had logic board problems).. all I could do is ask him and let him know that "daddy" needs his processor back for warranty repairs.
Again, I rate the mac pro logic board as very rugged and would believe for a SERVER class machine its studiness and durability last a long time.
Yeah, the moment they notice the processor was changed to 3.33, it would most likely be lost as Apple would remove it
I do value your opinion.. indeed
But also let me explain that even during the MDD days, I was upgrading processors for a long time in powerpc based G4 machines and PC's.. as for being careful - I couldn't agree with you more, that is why I plan to take my time EXCESSIVLY with this upgrade.. I am not one who will just unscrew the heatsink and pull it off so quick that I didn't notice a connector I just broke off. NO! What I will do is once my heatsink is loose and ready to be removed, I will take "baby" steps to remove the heatsink. I am not going to assert a lot of pressure to it also, as the heatsink is very light.
The good news however, compared to the duals, the processors are seated in a socket with a little hook to release them - similar to a PC. I also plan to apply a small coating of thermal compound to the whole processor - just like I did with the purple die on the powerpc G4 1.42 when I had a MDD dual 1.25.
same procedure? Yes.. just that its an intel xeon. As for price? If I new I was going to have bills this week, I wouldn't have thought about it.. but since its my birthday I'd thought of treating myself to an early b-day present.
as far as bending any pins? Unlikely.. since the processor is seated in a socket where one just lifts up the handle and the processor comes right out.. unlike the duals where they are lidless and one has to just "pick it up" = no support to hold down the processor other than the heatsink - hense anadtech's mistake
Once I get this processor and the upgrade is successful, I will provide pics of it for everyone.
But also let me explain that even during the MDD days, I was upgrading processors for a long time in powerpc based G4 machines and PC's.. as for being careful - I couldn't agree with you more, that is why I plan to take my time EXCESSIVLY with this upgrade.. I am not one who will just unscrew the heatsink and pull it off so quick that I didn't notice a connector I just broke off. NO! What I will do is once my heatsink is loose and ready to be removed, I will take "baby" steps to remove the heatsink. I am not going to assert a lot of pressure to it also, as the heatsink is very light.
The good news however, compared to the duals, the processors are seated in a socket with a little hook to release them - similar to a PC. I also plan to apply a small coating of thermal compound to the whole processor - just like I did with the purple die on the powerpc G4 1.42 when I had a MDD dual 1.25.
same procedure? Yes.. just that its an intel xeon. As for price? If I new I was going to have bills this week, I wouldn't have thought about it.. but since its my birthday I'd thought of treating myself to an early b-day present.
as far as bending any pins? Unlikely.. since the processor is seated in a socket where one just lifts up the handle and the processor comes right out.. unlike the duals where they are lidless and one has to just "pick it up" = no support to hold down the processor other than the heatsink - hense anadtech's mistake
Once I get this processor and the upgrade is successful, I will provide pics of it for everyone.
I don't plan on selling the 2.66 cpu
I might make use of this for my son's machine which I plan to build for him.. yes, its a xeon but none the less a nice processor for what he would need the computer for.
As far as selling my mac? I don't think thats going to happen.. since I will be back on my fixed income and work only part time(disability) - therefore, this might be my LAST mac pro.. as I am sure the 2010's and beyond(if nanofrog says is true about the DEMISE of the mac pro in the coming years), it will be overly expensive - and even my trade up with a 3.33 single-quad wouldn't get me anywhere near of as a comfortable out of pocket price for a 2010 and beyond mac pro..
At that point I might trade up for a PC or possibly a laptop.
I can't predict the future here.. but it seems logical that this is what might happen.
Also, I heard that in the next coming years a NEW RECESSION might take hold and this time is predicted to be 1000's times worse than this one given the market flux in the world.. job market hasn't improved one bit for the majority of people.. those, however in health care and possibly IT have a better shot..
I might make use of this for my son's machine which I plan to build for him.. yes, its a xeon but none the less a nice processor for what he would need the computer for.
As far as selling my mac? I don't think thats going to happen.. since I will be back on my fixed income and work only part time(disability) - therefore, this might be my LAST mac pro.. as I am sure the 2010's and beyond(if nanofrog says is true about the DEMISE of the mac pro in the coming years), it will be overly expensive - and even my trade up with a 3.33 single-quad wouldn't get me anywhere near of as a comfortable out of pocket price for a 2010 and beyond mac pro..
At that point I might trade up for a PC or possibly a laptop.
I can't predict the future here.. but it seems logical that this is what might happen.
Also, I heard that in the next coming years a NEW RECESSION might take hold and this time is predicted to be 1000's times worse than this one given the market flux in the world.. job market hasn't improved one bit for the majority of people.. those, however in health care and possibly IT have a better shot..
No, I'm saying the opposite... it will be a wash and you may even come out ahead. If you can get $300 for your old CPU and more than $300 in added resale value for your upgraded Mac Pro when you sell it, then you're ahead!
VirtualRain
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Hey Roman23... can you link to where you got your processor? I want to get one too!
VirtualRain
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It's on eBay (here). And the seller will ship to Canada.
Yeah, I saw that one for $599... but Roman23 says he's paying $549... I can't seem to find one that low. Please share!
EDIT: BTW, does it void your warranty to upgrade your CPU in a Mac Pro? I would think if you explained to the Apple store when you took it in for service, that you upgraded your CPU they would take care to ensure it didn't get "misplaced". I mean, if you upgrade your graphics card, you wouldn't expect it to get misplaced or removed as part of warranty service would you? I guess they might try to blame any problem on your CPU, but I guess that depends on the nature of why you're taking to get it serviced. If the PSU's gone, it's hard to blame that on a CPU upgrade.
The links he shared with me had the W3570 at $549 (located in Hong Kong), and the W3580 at $599 (located in Virginia).Yeah, I saw that one for $599... but Roman23 says he's paying $549... I can't seem to find one that low. Please share!
No, but you'd need to keep the original, and swap it out if you suspect a new daughterboard or main logic board are required, along with any other upgrades that you've added (3rd party, not those included in a CTO system).
I wouldn't expect the Apple store personnel to do this for you, even if that much work is required. And from a corporate POV, they wouldn't want to be responsible for any add-ons that didn't come with the system at time of purchase (liability issues, and the biggest reason for the language used IMO).