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Sure it is, pretty much every kindergarten or first grade handbook.
"Do not take your neighbors things"

Wright and wrong is not a law set by anyone. Sure; if someone just found the iPod and kept it without even thinking about the owner or their feelings; wrong.

Do not take your neighbor's things; yeah; that's stealing. That's wrong with no other options. But sometimes right and wrong is a little foggy in some situations. I cannot see a time or place when someone could accidentally steal something.
 
So, you looked up "found electronic device" in your Morality Codebook and "post 3 flyers" is what is listed there?? MORALITY IS A GRAY AREA. There is no such thing as "right is right" and "wrong is wrong". Just because YOU would contact Apple, call the police, put up flyers and post on CL, doesn't mean that is the RIGHT thing to do. Maybe someone else would do MORE (Why not put up a hundred flyers? Why not post on CL in every city in the US, just in case the person that lost it was a traveler?), and maybe someone else would do less.

Why should we use YOUR actions as a benchmark? Would doing more make someone "more right"? What you described is what feels right to you. That is great....for you. Don't try to project your view of morality on to everyone else.

For example, if someone molested my child...would it be ok to shoot them in the head? I think it would....but there are many people that think it wouldn't be. I am not saying they are wrong, but I don't think I am either.

Sorry about the rant in a 3 year old thread, but I just hate it when people try to tell other people what is "right and wrong".

I would attempt to find the original owner....to a point that I, not you or anyone else, were comfortable with.


Don't be absurd.

My comments are obviously meant to list a few things that COULD be done. What I said was to DO SOMETHING to try to find the owner. Make some kind of legitimate attempt at least. There is no instruction manual for how to reunite a lost object with the rightful owner. Notice, the term rightful owner is clearly understood by everyone.

Everyone saying just to keep it knows in their heart that it is not the right thing to do. To what extent they are able to deceive their own conscience is up to them. That's fine. I hope that if you lose your ipod, you are lucky enough to have someone NOT like you find it.
 
Screw it

Dude take the ipod and sell it, you'll never find the owner. Try for 2 weeks no recovery then kep it, try restoring to factory settings i made the mistake of letting my cousin mess with my ipod and they put a password on it, i lost the charger to my laptop so my only option was factory restore, but its not working too well. good luck on YOUR decision but answer to your question without these guys giving you morality talks, just factory restore. :]
 
do it

I have tracked and returned a many of phones as well as money credit cards and each time the people were asses about the whole thing. Just keep and be thankful you did not have to pay out your ass for a stupid ipod.:D:D
 
Most of us would, but imagine how you would feel if someone actually made the effort to track you down and return your iPod?

The world has changed and there are not many nice people out there anymore. Everyone is greedy and keeps everything they find. No one returns anything anymore, and people are all about stealing. I'll never get it anymore. No one has any moral rights. (Not implying any of this to the OP.) I'm just stating that if you lose something these days, you can almost forget about someone giving it back to you.
 
wow ok if you find an ipod in the snow unless its right next to a house or something like that where you think you know whos it might be there is nothing wrong with keeping it. if i lost my ipod in the snow i would consider it lost and save up fro a new ipod. really. i wonder how many people who replied on this thread would actually spend time checking police stations etc. to return the phone to the owner. but i would look in the ipods email and contacts cause you might be able to tell from there whos it is. in that case you should return it.
 
I stumbled across this thread because an acquaintance actually found an iPod in London Zoo. It is pass code locked and it is given to me to try and open it.

I have stated unequivocally to my acquaintance that I will first make every effort to locate the owner. It is inscribed as a gift from parents to a child and I think it is doubly rotten in this instance to look to keep it. I should add that my acquaintance is an embarrassment in this regard.

It is equally depressing to note the many posts here confirming just how avarice has screwed up the moral compass. Anyway, personal integrity aside, here in the UK there is actually a law in respect of Theft by Finding. So ‘finders keepers’ is not a legal defence against prosecution. Also certain religious laws impose an obligation on the finder to search for the owner.

So every which way the equivocating belief that “it is all right to keep it because...blah blah ..NYC...blah blah..lost in snow...blah blah.." is just pathetic.

In my opinion the application of a pass code is self defeating as it assumes that we are all thieves. My initial impulse is to open the device and try and find some contact information, email or whatever. But of course I can’t do that so the owner has actually blocked me from an easy route to return their iPod.

It is the weekend now so on Monday I shall contact the Zoo Lost Property, then Apple and finally the police.

The lesson I am taking from this is for owners to somehow make it easy for honest finders to easily return the item. The assumption that we are all low life no-morals is ultimately to the detriment of all of us.
 
If its engraved, Apple will have a record of who bought it. They won't give that info to you, but a higher tier rep might give them a call on your behalf.
 
Sorry, but this sounds like bull to me, just an excuse to keep someone else's property.



Most of us would, but imagine how you would feel if someone actually made the effort to track you down and return your iPod?

I found someone's phone on a park bench I was passing a few months ago. I picked it up, rang the last couple of dialled numbers, spoke to a friend of the owner, got their number, rang them, arranged to meet them, and returned their phone. The saddest thing was he said "how much do you want?". I said "err, nothing". He was gobsmacked. He thanked me like I was Mother Teresa :eek:. Jeez, I just did what was right, it was no big effort, I wasn't expecting an audience with the Pope in return or a ticker-tape parade through Dublin. A tiny 'effort' on my part, it took all of 10 minutes out of my day, but it made the owner of the phone feel like the world wasn't as scummy as he imagined.

So, do the right thing ;)

people have consistently given stuff back to me and people I know off Dublin bus, I guess people in Dublin are just nice :D
 
Just restore it by putting it info dfu mode an it will erase everything tho.
But Thats a way do to it. I'd keep an iPod or whatever if I found it, too. Lol
 
I found an iPod Touch in the seat pocket on a Delta flight when I took my seat. It was at the bottom of the seat pocket with some earbuds and under all of the magazines. Since I am an airline pilot, I was able to talk to an agent when I got to my destination and see if I could find the owner. They had not had anyone in that seat for 2 segments so I ended up putting an ad on Craigslist. I said I had found an iPod Touch on a Delta flight and if they could Id it I would send it to them. 232 emails from people. Almost 75% of them said pretty close to the same thing...."Thank you for finding the item I lost, please send it to me at this address.....Oh, and as you do, please look at this website.."

NONE could describe the cover or what type earbuds. I reset it and gave it to my wife....
 
You gotta love these guys who criticize the morality of others, telling them to do the right thing. They follow up by providing an example of an entirely different scenario which provides no help to the situation, but only further inflates their ego and demonstrates their moral superiority.

Yup. Don't even get me started on the superiority factor of those that frequent this site or own Macs. It's a little annoying.

Did you steal it? No. COULD you expend all this energy trying to find the owner? Yup. Would the owner be happy if they got it back? Yup. Chances of you finding the owner? Slim to none.

Someone lost it- you found it. Restore it and use it.
 
lost ipod

Hey i just found an 8GB ipod tough at a mcdonalds and i was going to leave it there in the lost an found but no one could speak or really understand english and then someone told me to take it to the apple store so they can get through the passcode. so i went to the apple store and they were just a bunch of losers who probably didnt know what to do or didnt want to do there job and i think its the second one..... i feel really bad that this person lost their ipod and im trying to get through the ipod without erasing anything so contact this person to tell them that its safe and they can come get it i have been searching everywhere online to find out how to get passed the passcode but they are all saying that its for the persons who owns it can do it please if anyone knows how to go through the passcode without erasing anything or without opening it please tell me i really want to return this ipod touch
 
I'm pretty pissed at Apple's utter lack of tracking abilities for iPod Touches. iPhones are easily traceable by AT&T (or Verizon or Sprint) because of their network access, but iPod Touches seem to be a free-for-all. Two years ago, I had one iPod stolen, and one iPod disappear (could have been stolen, I hope not, since it was in a DoD secured facility(!!!)). I contacted Apple to see what they could do, and they couldn't do anything. As the owner, I should be able to have a red flag put on my device (since it was registered to me), and have the IP and any other information Apple collected on the next person to connect it to iTunes collected and sent to Police, as well as push a notification that it is stolen property and have the device soft-bricked until it was connected back to MY iTunes library. Apple wouldn't do ANYTHING, even though they are usually very helpful.

I also had the second one, a brand-new 64GB Touch, tracked by my University, but it was never turned on again within range of the several thousand Cisco Aironet access points on campus. If it had been, it would have popped up an alert at the NOC giving the approximate location of the device, and if it had been wiped, whose account it was now registered under for RADIUS authentication. Apparently it quickly left campus or was hacked to somehow change it's MAC address. :( While good technically at tracking, the University also has the bizarre policy of requiring a police report of the device being stolen before tracking it, which was rather extraneous, but as much of a pain as that was, I didn't feel bad for wasting the Police's time, as the campus police around here have nothing better to do, unlike in NYC.

As a result of Apple's lackluster stolen/lost support, I am now on my 6th iPod. Maybe that's their plan to make more money. :( They have been really good with other stuff, like replacing a Magsafe power supply out of warranty because the cable near the end was starting to fail.
 
I was lucky enough to find an 8GB iPod Touch in the snow today! However, it is password protected from anyone using it. Is there any way that I can take off the password protection? Will connecting it to my computer do this? Thanks.

In the old days....it was finders keepers....still is in 2011.

Well if you were a talented hacker....you wouldn't need to be asking this in a public forum....that's all I will say.
 
I'm pretty pissed at Apple's utter lack of tracking abilities for iPod Touches. iPhones are easily traceable by AT&T (or Verizon or Sprint) because of their network access, but iPod Touches seem to be a free-for-all.
So you want the iPod to have GPS, a 3G radio and you want to pay monthly for the ability to track it on the off chance that you don't look after it properly.

Two years ago, I had one iPod stolen, and one iPod disappear (could have been stolen, I hope not, since it was in a DoD secured facility(!!!)). I contacted Apple to see what they could do, and they couldn't do anything. As the owner, I should be able to have a red flag put on my device (since it was registered to me), and have the IP and any other information Apple collected on the next person to connect it to iTunes collected and sent to Police, as well as push a notification that it is stolen property and have the device soft-bricked until it was connected back to MY iTunes library. Apple wouldn't do ANYTHING, even though they are usually very helpful.
The ability isn't in the firmware, of course there's nothing they could do. You knew this when you bought the device.

IP logging isn't available other iDevices either, because it's not Apple's place to get involved in disputes like this, they just manufacture products. An IP doesn't equal a person either, people being wrongly accused would cause a PR disaster for Apple. You don't seem to appreciate that this is a massive can of worms that you propose Apple opens.

As a result of Apple's lackluster stolen/lost support, I am now on my 6th iPod.
You mean your inability to to look after your own property is the reason you're on your 6th iPod.
 
In the old days....it was finders keepers....still is in 2011.

Well if you were a talented hacker....you wouldn't need to be asking this in a public forum....that's all I will say.

Still is, unless the person is there and lost the iPod, no point in all the hassle with returning. If is laying on a park bench, just keep it, there's no certainty that you will ever be able to find the owner anyways.
So you want the iPod to have GPS, a 3G radio and you want to pay monthly for the ability to track it on the off chance that you don't look after it properly.


The ability isn't in the firmware, of course there's nothing they could do. You knew this when you bought the device.

IP logging isn't available other iDevices either, because it's not Apple's place to get involved in disputes like this, they just manufacture products. An IP doesn't equal a person either, people being wrongly accused would cause a PR disaster for Apple. You don't seem to appreciate that this is a massive can of worms that you propose Apple opens.


You mean your inability to to look after your own property is the reason you're on your 6th iPod.

Damn, you burned him right there!
 
So you want the iPod to have GPS, a 3G radio and you want to pay monthly for the ability to track it on the off chance that you don't look after it properly.

The ability isn't in the firmware, of course there's nothing they could do. You knew this when you bought the device.

I'm sorry that my iDevice was stolen from me and you don't seem to see that as being a problem. It doesn't need 3G, GPS, or anything else. When you connect to iTunes, it knows the serial number, so there could be flags out for stolen iPods on Apple's servers, and if a stolen one was plugged in to iTunes anywhere in the world, it would lock it out, and send a red flag to Apple. Not so hard, is it?

IP logging isn't available other iDevices either, because it's not Apple's place to get involved in disputes like this, they just manufacture products. An IP doesn't equal a person either, people being wrongly accused would cause a PR disaster for Apple. You don't seem to appreciate that this is a massive can of worms that you propose Apple opens.

They could at least support them in this way. It wouldn't be hard to just turn over the evidence to police. You'd ultimately have to find the device for someone to get in trouble. If you find an IP, and you know where the IP goes, you know (just about) where the iPod is. Not too hard to understand, is it? It's not Apple's problem, it's the cops'.

You mean your inability to to look after your own property is the reason you're on your 6th iPod.

Why don't you ask the right questions before you make ASSumptions. Let's list them:

#1: Hard drive failed, out of warranty
#2: Failed, out of warranty
#3: Lost/stolen
#4: Wanted an iPod Touch, still works fine
#5: Stolen
#6: Currently in use, possibly sell if I get iPhone

None of them, except wanting a new iPod were my own fault. Of course, you could argue that if Apple had done a better job building the iPods, that would have been more beneficial to me than if they had a decent system for keeping track of where in the world these things went. It's amazing how poorly made some of the older iPods were, yet how amazing the laptops were and are.
 
If you have a case, write your name in a post-it. An honest person will call you. If not, it's yours.
 
Am I foolish for seeing the first part of this titleL "Found iPod Touch- Need to..." and thought the last words were surely "find owner".

But then again, this is a daily occurrence on macrumors. What's to say we wouldn't do the same. :rolleyes:
 
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