Found one thing I really hate

Discussion in 'iOS 5 and earlier' started by SurferMan, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. SurferMan macrumors 65816

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    Can't believe after iOS4 Apple still can't fix their multitask system. I can't wait to JB again and have true multitasking and control over what I want and when I want to run in the background. I mean how dumb is it that if I want an App to close I have to press the home button to close, then double tap the home button, then hold the icon, then hit the dash to close it. So ridiculous, I noticed too that if I don't close stuff battery starts draining more then normal vs the multitask system I had when jailbroken. I wonder if this is why people are complaining about battery life, not knowing all these apps etc are running in the background.

    Battery life is good as long as I keep going back and closing apps through that stupid process. Just surprises me that Apple still can't develop a good, and true, multi task system instead of keeping every single thing open :rolleyes:
     
  2. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    I always thought it was weird that you truly don't close an app when you are done with it. That you have to do the double click, cancel thing to really close your apps. I also hate that whenever I stop netflix for a few minutes, it really does close and doesn't pick up the show I was watching, where I was watching it. I have to restart the show and then drag the timeline to the part I was up to.
     
  3. SurferMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yeh I can't believe they didn't fix that :rolleyes: . Plus you have no control, everything you do/open goes to the task bar. So after awhile you can have a ton of apps in there.

    When I was jailbroken I had true multitasking that ran smooth and quick, and let you control what you wanted to stay open and close what you didn't like normal.
     
  4. Lyn2012 macrumors regular

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    I'm still waiting for my 4S to arrive but I know I am going to feel the same way. I remember updating my 3GS to iOS4 and the battery life suddenly deteriorating only to be resolved as soon as I JB and cleared all those apps just sitting there. The only other thing I'll be JBing for is SBSettings. I only switch 3G, wi-fi and bluetooth on when I need to use them and scrabbling through Settings etc is so inconvenient in comparison to using SBSettings.
     
  5. iceterminal macrumors 68000

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    I never knew iOS4 had a multitasking environment. I always knew it had a multiswitching one, but not multitasking. You know, since none of the minimized apps are actually running and all.

    Thanks for the update. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Small White Car macrumors G4

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    There is nothing wrong with that. You don't need to close them.

    If you really are seeing battery life go down then you have a bad app that's doing something wrong, which isn't the OS's fault. You should try and figure out what app that is (or your phone is defective).
     
  7. SurferMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Nope, I've tested it over the last two days. Whenever the task bar is full of apps and I do nothing, the battery drains if I still use it like normal which doesn't make sense since the apps are "sleeping" according to Apple :rolleyes: . If I close the apps as I use them battery is improved.

    Thats on my 3GS, on our iPhone4 it's doing the samething.
     
  8. Runt888 macrumors 6502a

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    This is completely wrong. The list of "running" apps that you slavishly keep managing isn't a list of running apps. It's a history of apps that you have previously run. Sure, a couple of them might be using some of the multitasking APIs to do some work in the background, but the vast majority of them are either closed or completely suspended. The OS decides when to close a suspended app depending on current memory requirements, but suspended apps aren't doing any processing and aren't using any additional energy.

    The difference in battery life you're seeing is more likely a matter of iOS4 vs iOS5. As for seeing an increase in battery life by closing a suspended application (unless it's one of the few that actually does something in the background), see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo.
     
  9. bclizzle macrumors 6502

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    i prefer it this way. if all apps truly close, people will be complaining about how long they take to launch.

    its pick your poison. i prefer that they are open all the time. how hard is it to double click and kill the app if you want it off?
     
  10. Small White Car macrumors G4

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    2 days?

    Battery life can vary greatly based on dozens of factors. Mine certainly does and I don't change anything from day to day.

    Put it in Airplane mode and test it for 2 weeks and then we can talk about results.
     
  11. Jody macrumors regular

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    You don't have any idea how iOS works - and you have wasted a lot of time closing apps and worrying about this.
     
  12. SurferMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Here's an example, going to sleep and streaming Pandora with no other apps on WiFi, and browsing for a bit before sleep. Wake up and phone is at 35% life. Doing the samething but leaving the "sleeping" apps, like 6 or 7, in that task bar... life was at 6%. Basically same time as far as hitting the sack and waking up at 8am. So what would cause that large difference?

    And if it's not "multitasking" and apparently "frozen" then why does Pandora play when I'm doing other stuff or browsing?
     
  13. Jody macrumors regular

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    Because there is a specific API call to allow apps to play music in the background. If a "closed" app isn't using one of these specific background APIs to do something, then it's not using ANY resources.
     
  14. SurferMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    So then explain why there was a difference streaming pandora with nothing in that task bar, vs streaming pandora and keep those apps in the task bar. (sleeping, so wan't using them). Checked logs and WiFi/internet never went off as I was thinking it may have switched to 3G.

    Maybe there's a glitch in my iOS5 and I'll reinstall, but our 4 seems to be doing the samething.
     
  15. bryanjc macrumors regular

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    Why is that so difficult?
     
  16. BigGameJames42 macrumors newbie

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    Agree!
     
  17. andyp350 macrumors 6502a

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    It doesn't really bother me I think it's a good compromise between possibly having a sluggish and battery draining system and true multitasking.
    For me all they need to add is a button to remove all apps from the tray so you don't have to do them all seperately.
     
  18. redscull macrumors 6502a

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    The way that iOS multitasking works is perfect, unarguably superior to true multitasking when considering this is a mobile device.

    However, the user interface around iOS's multitasking is terrible. It's a tedious-to-access, ginormous, unmanaged list of every application you've ever opened. There is no indication of what's still running background tasks vs suspended vs closed. There's no close-all feature. There are no settings for preferring to terminate closed apps vs suspending them, or better yet, a setting per app. The UI is so bad it's really not even worth using; and I guess that was Apple's intention. But in that case, they shouldn't even offer it at all, much less default to it when I double-tap Home (I wish double-tab brought up the audio controls without having to first swipe left from the useless multitask list).
     
  19. sence macrumors newbie

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    The thing i think we all hate is the way you close open programs, this could be resolved with ease by implementing a swipe down to close apps instead of the red cross hold down
     
  20. Skedoozy macrumors newbie

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    There is definitely a battery issue. I just left mine sitting on my bedside all night not doing anything. It was 99% when I went to bed and woke up to it being 45%.Night before going to ios5 I lost 5% during same time frame.
     
  21. SurferMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    That's why I'm going to JB and get SBSsettings back, so easy, intuitive, and can control most of the phones functions and kill processes you don't want running, turn locations on/off quickly etc all from one screen is great. Why Apple doesn't implement an fast and easy system like SBSsettings is beyond me.

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    My battery life is actually excellent, provided I close out the apps running in the task bar.. which doesn't make sense since their "frozen" and shouldn't be running. My 3GS has dropped from 100% to 89% browsing safari for 5 minutes on WiFi. In task bar is settings, safari, compass, reminders, weather, messages, and app store. I left those in and unplugged at 100% just to see. 30-40 minutes later went from 100% to 89%.

    Now I have them off the task bar, and phone charged back to 100%. Let's see what happens in 3-40 minutes.
     
  22. SurferMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Ok I actually went over an hour, still at 99%... so something is draining the battery when those apps are "frozen" in the task bar. And that includes a lil browsing on Safari, and closing it out and making sure no apps are in task bar and leaving the phone as is.

    So you can see another difference right there in regards to having apps in that task bar vs not having them like I posted before.
     
  23. Stewie macrumors 6502

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    Have you checked iCloud to see if it is syncing when you are experiencing high battery drain? Also check what apps are using your location. GPS will be a huge drain on the battery.
     
  24. Blorzoga macrumors 68030

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    The "taskbar" is always full of apps. There are very few that continue tO run, namely music streaming ones.
     
  25. SurferMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    No I have the main services that I would think could cause draining turned off... like location, bluetooth, icloud, even have mail turned off.

    our 4 is having similar issue, so I doubt it's the phones, something is causing this in iOS 5. If those apps are frozen and not running in background, something is keeping them running. Only thing I can think of that would explain the battery difference. Something has to be glitching with that task bar on both phones??

    If I use an app or whatever, and make sure it's off each time, then battery life is excellent. I'd say much better then before using iOS 5.
     

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