Four Washington state cops killed

[rhett7660]

Only they're not like you and me. They can beat people, shoot people, and taze people at will. They are the only ones in the criminal justice system that have the power to take your life without a jury trial. It's to easy to be a cop. No degree required. Last time I checked, power/guns/and authority do not mix well with lack of education.

Damn right they do. If they are in a situation that warrants the use of deadly force so be it. Tough luck for the bad guy who is on the other side of the law.

But of course those who do this wrongly will be sought out and prosecuted. This has happened in the past and it will continue to happen. Which it should.

But you my friend sound like a person who was "picked on" and now hold a grudge against them. But of course you have probably never ever did anything wrong which caught the attention of said cops.......

 

[ucfgrad93]

Seattle police kill suspect in officer slayings

Can't say that I'm sorry this monster is dead.

 

[flakes8]

I never feel sorry for cops. Ever.

And you my friend are the reason we have cops.

Big thanks to police everywhere that have to deal with the scum of the earth everyday... and yes that scum comes from every walk of life from the mansions to the the streets !!!!

 

[sysiphus]

So long as they got the right guy, I have no regrets about the ending--the guy knew the risk he was taking by resisting arrest, and a 9MM bullet is a much cheaper/quicker resolution than dragging this out over years. The guy was scum. (cue PRSI liberals bearing down on me for being ok with a murderer getting killed in 3....2....1...)

 

[flakes8]

So long as they got the right guy, I have no regrets about the ending--the guy knew the risk he was taking by resisting arrest, and a 9MM bullet is a much cheaper/quicker resolution than dragging this out over years. The guy was scum. (cue PRSI liberals bearing down on me for being ok with a murderer getting killed in 3....2....1...)

I totally agree, I live in CT and there was a doctor and his family that were attacked in a home invasion. The doctor was beat within an inch of his life, but his wife and two daughters were raped and killed. The police should have shot the scum as they were leaving the home (I know they did not understand the circumstance at the time) but instead the scum have complete control of the criminal justice system and are taunting the doctor from jail with all sorts of nonsense (at the taxpayer's expense). I know this is old west justice but as there is a supposed need for medical reform there is a need for reform in the justice system and this would help in reducing the cost put on the law abiding citizens.

 

[Gasu E.]

I never feel sorry for cops. Ever.

Why? Did some cop hassle you for underage drinking?

 

[joepunk]

A Seattle Police Officer was killed/gunned down on Halloween night. His partner was injured. They were just sitting in their patrol car discussing something when another car pulled up alongside them and started firing. LINK

It's been a horrible winter season for the police here in Washington State.

 

[flakes8]

A Seattle Police Officer was killed/gunned down on Halloween night. His partner was injured. They were just sitting in their patrol car discussing something when another car pulled up alongside them and started firing. LINK

It's been a horrible winter season for the police here in Washington State.

Sorry To Hear That

 

[cjmillsnun]

Probably was the same guy.

I've just returned home (UK) from Tacoma. It really hit hard. I sincerely hope this was the right guy.

More than likely it was.

My thoughts are with the families whose lives have been broken apart forever. May they be strong throughout these difficult times.

 

[A.list.face]

I really feel bad for these officers and their families especially this close to the holidays, but maybe if they were doing their jobs in their own districts, this could have been avoided.

Troyer said the officers - all from the Lakewood Police Department - were catching up on paperwork at the beginning of their shifts when they were attacked at 8:15 a.m. Sunday.

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Troyer said the Lakewood officers were two blocks outside their jurisdiction, and the coffee shop was a popular place for officers from surrounding jurisdictions to meet and share information.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/29/national/main5828736.shtml

 

[flakes8]

I really feel bad for these officers and their families especially this close to the holidays, but maybe if they were doing their jobs in their own districts, this could have been avoided.



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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/29/national/main5828736.shtml

I don't care if they were on Mars, nobody deserves this !!!!!

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I really feel bad for these officers and their families especially this close to the holidays, but maybe if they were doing their jobs in their own districts, this could have been avoided.



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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/29/national/main5828736.shtml

What the hell do your quote prove. They were doing their jobs. I am going to take your own quotes here because you know very little. I am going to point out the things that you just completely passed over.

Troyer said the officers - all from the Lakewood Police Department - were catching up on paperwork at the beginning of their shifts when they were attacked at 8:15 a.m. Sunday.

Paper work is part of their job so your quote proves and doing it at the beginning of a shift is a good time to do it any how. I know at my job I a morning routine that when I first got there it was get coffee, sit at my computer and do a little paper work before I really got going. It is a good chance to get into the mind set of work. The cops were doing exactly that in my book at the beginning of there shift they were taking a little time to get into the mindset for there job. I find paper work a great way to do that.

Troyer said the Lakewood officers were two blocks outside their jurisdiction, and the coffee shop was a popular place for officers from surrounding jurisdictions to meet and share information.

lets see popular spot for officers from surrounding areas to meet and share information is a good thing because it means that if something is going on in another city near by they other know what to be on the look out for if it moves into theirs. Or if a problem comes up the other cops might have a good way to solve it.

Also TWO BLOCKs, That is what less than a 5 min WALK and tracing back to the point I made earlier the place is a good place for the cops to get into the mindset they need for the day.

I know I could not get into a work mind set at home or during my drive to work. It would be once I got to the office I needed a few min to switch gears and get to work. I see no problem with the cops doing that.

 

[pukifloyd]

Its really sad
RIP all four cops...

 

[Thomas Veil]

So long as they got the right guy, I have no regrets about the ending--the guy knew the risk he was taking by resisting arrest, and a 9MM bullet is a much cheaper/quicker resolution than dragging this out over years. The guy was scum. (cue PRSI liberals bearing down on me for being ok with a murderer getting killed in 3....2....1...)

As a "PRSI liberal", I have to ask why, since this apparently was self-defense and not a summary execution, we'd have a problem with it?

 

[James L]

Only they're not like you and me. They can beat people, shoot people, and taze people at will. They are the only ones in the criminal justice system that have the power to take your life without a jury trial. It's to easy to be a cop. No degree required. Last time I checked, power/guns/and authority do not mix well with lack of education.

Holy crap.. I'm not sure if you're uneducated, bitter, naive.... or all 3.

Hundreds of thousands of cops do millions of calls per year. They do work that most people would be too scared to step up and do, and unless you have walked miles in their shoes you have no concept of the work they do. You don't learn it by watching tv. You don't see it driving down the road, and I hate to tell you but you don't learn policing by spending 4-8 years in university getting a degree.

Of those millions of calls done per year you don't hear about the 99.99% of them that have successful conclusions... you hear about the rare incident where something bad or wrong happens. Any occupation will have the occasional idiot working in it...this is unavoidable. To tarnish an entire group of people whose work you don't understand, based on the actions of a few, is illogical and stupid.

I speak from 13 years working as a paramedic alongside law enforcement everyday. I know what these men and women do, and I have the utmost respect for their work.

p.s:

Yes, they are the only ones in the criminal justice system that have the power to take someone's life without a trial, and bless the lawmakers for giving them those abilities! The streets are cruel, dirty, and violent. Do-gooders wouldn't survive an hour on them in many areas. If a criminal is threatening or using violence against an innocent member of society I am perfectly fine with them being dealt with in a violent manner. Things happen fast in a situation and if police use of violence protects a citizen or another officer from being hurt so be it.

 

[XNine]

PolySciSurfer is a $cientologist who couldn't bribe some Florida cops into harassing some poor bastard at his home.

ROFLberries! Zing!!!! No, really. I'd bet my next paycheck you wouldn't have the balls to deal with half the scum these cops do on a daily basis, for one day. They put their lives on the line. And just like any job, you have bad people. Bad people are everywhere. Doesn't matter where you are, there are bad, ugly people.

In all honesty, I'm glad this piece of **** isn't going to have the opportunity to leach off of our system. I'm all for a fair trial, but sometimes the trash has got to go sooner than later.

 

[StephenCampbell]

Holy crap.. I'm not sure if you're uneducated, bitter, naive.... or all 3.

Hundreds of thousands of cops do millions of calls per year. They do work that most people would be too scared to step up and do, and unless you have walked miles in their shoes you have no concept of the work they do. You don't learn it by watching tv. You don't see it driving down the road, and I hate to tell you but you don't learn policing by spending 4-8 years in university getting a degree.

Of those millions of calls done per year you don't hear about the 99.99% of them that have successful conclusions... you hear about the rare incident where something bad or wrong happens. Any occupation will have the occasional idiot working in it...this is unavoidable. To tarnish an entire group of people whose work you don't understand, based on the actions of a few, is illogical and stupid.

I speak from 13 years working as a paramedic alongside law enforcement everyday. I know what these men and women do, and I have the utmost respect for their work.

p.s:

Yes, they are the only ones in the criminal justice system that have the power to take someone's life without a trial, and bless the lawmakers for giving them those abilities! The streets are cruel, dirty, and violent. Do-gooders wouldn't survive an hour on them in many areas. If a criminal is threatening or using violence against an innocent member of society I am perfectly fine with them being dealt with in a violent manner. Things happen fast in a situation and if police use of violence protects a citizen or another officer from being hurt so be it.

I wholeheartedly agree with you!

 

[leomac08]

somehow when I read the thread title I thought of "twilight" and four cops being killed by vampires.... since washignton seems like a deserted place similar to the town in twilight....or alaska.

 

[snberk103]

Tragic incident, and often I think cops don't get paid enough to do the work that they sometimes have to do.

I have to add that the other (small) tragedy is that the alleged shooter didn't go to trial. A trial would have proven that he was the shooter (or not). What if he wasn't the shooter? Means the real shooter has gotten off. What if there was an accomplice or someone who knew of the plans and didn't do anything to stop it? Means they will likely not be brought before justice. What if the alleged shooter has other unsolved crimes in their history? Now the families of those victims will never get to know if the right person has been brought before justice. Someone in this thread earlier mentioned another cop who got shot on Halloween. With the alleged shooter of the 4 cops dead, we may never know if there is another killer out there, or whether the two incidents are connected.

If the cop who shot the alleged shooter was acting in self-defence then of course this was the only option. I certainly don't buy into the notion that cops should shoot to injure.... that's just TV fiction.

 

[flakes8]

Tragic incident, and often I think cops don't get paid enough to do the work that they sometimes have to do.

I have to add that the other (small) tragedy is that the alleged shooter didn't go to trial. A trial would have proven that he was the shooter (or not). What if he wasn't the shooter? Means the real shooter has gotten off. What if there was an accomplice or someone who knew of the plans and didn't do anything to stop it? Means they will likely not be brought before justice. What if the alleged shooter has other unsolved crimes in their history? Now the families of those victims will never get to know if the right person has been brought before justice. Someone in this thread earlier mentioned another cop who got shot on Halloween. With the alleged shooter of the 4 cops dead, we may never know if there is another killer out there, or whether the two incidents are connected.

If the cop who shot the alleged shooter was acting in self-defence then of course this was the only option. I certainly don't buy into the notion that cops should shoot to injure.... that's just TV fiction.

I get what you are saying but I am sure post-mortum forensics can also prove he was the shooter i.e. gun residue, talking to witnesses, fibers, and a slew of other things. Maybe I watch too many shows but it makes sense. This is my 100th post wow how time fly's !!!

 

[snberk103]

I get what you are saying but I am sure post-mortum forensics can also prove he was the shooter i.e. gun residue, talking to witnesses, fibers, and a slew of other things. Maybe I watch too many shows but it makes sense. This is my 100th post wow how time fly's !!!

I would think too much TV ... Is forensics going to lead them to the friend who heard of the alleged shooter's plan at a bar, and didn't call anyone? Is forensics going to lead every friend who hid him?

Society evolved a justice system over many years and generations. Its not perfect, admittedly, but it does generally allow cases like this to reach a closure for the victims and their families.

 

[flakes8]

I would think too much TV ... Is forensics going to lead them to the friend who heard of the alleged shooter's plan at a bar, and didn't call anyone? Is forensics going to lead every friend who hid him?

Society evolved a justice system over many years and generations. Its not perfect, admittedly, but it does generally allow cases like this to reach a closure for the victims and their families.

A lot of t.v. lol... but if there is gunshot residue on his hands and a bullet hole in his abdomen then I think it is safe to say it was him plus they retrieved his hand gun at the scene which will speak volumes if connected to him. But I agree a court trial is optimal but not always available.