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Does anywhere apart from the USA?

Not that I know of. I certainly know when my family was living in the UK they didn't. My older brother and sister did their Generals and had the option to continue or not. My brother had no intentions of going to Uni cause he wanted to work in film like our dad so he went to a trade school that had a training program for film technicians. My sister did stick around to do A levels and then ended up transferring to a US school. Where I was stuck doing two more years of 'grade school' due to the different requirements. Made me wish I could have stayed in the UK with my grandparents to finish school since I wanted to go the trade route also.

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As far as living two dozen to a room, I always found that amusing since we lived in quonset huts like that in the Army when lucky enough to be on base in Korea. (Don't even get me started on the conditions in the field.)

According to the reports its more like 6-8 people to a room with community bathrooms but folks aren't made to sleep on the floor etc. They have their separate bunks with presumably some kind of closet, foot locker or dresser space for their uniforms and casual clothes. It's not some tiny jail cell with a toilet and cold water only sink barely arms length away or such

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[/COLOR]If our US Laws are so great then why do all our Childhood Actors become druggies when they are 16 years of age and up?

That has nothing to do with child labor laws and everything to do with parents not doing their job and paying attention to what their kids are doing, same as the non childhood actors.

Also, for every child actor that becomes a druggie at 16, there are a good 500 that don't. But that larger group doesn't sell papers so no one bothers to write about them. Just like accidents etc sell paps but boring days where no one catches fire or tries to fly off a roof don't so . . .
 
According to the reports its more like 6-8 people to a room with community bathrooms but folks aren't made to sleep on the floor etc. They have their separate bunks with presumably some kind of closet, foot locker or dresser space for their uniforms and casual clothes. It's not some tiny jail cell with a toilet and cold water only sink barely arms length away or such

Not to mention the most important factor, which is that the job is VOLUNTARY! None of those people were forced to do what they are doing, they are doing it because, really, it is making them a hell of a lot of money compared to their other options. And as the Nightline piece made clear, it's actually making their FAMILIES a hell of a lot of money too. This is a time honored tradition of a family member going off to work hard, make a lot of money and send it home to help the rest of the family. US citizens did and do it too!
 
I certainly hope Cook is more humanitarian than Jobs. For all of Steve's upsides, not caring about (all of his) people was definitely a downside.

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Edit: Uh, my bad. I read it initially 10-17 year olds, when it was 16-17 in fact. 16-17 is more complicated.
 
One thing I like about Macrumors forum dwellers is how when someone is sceptical about something Apple claims they're always wearing a tin foil hat but when rumors appear about Google or MS doing something sneaky it's immediatly taken as fact and proof that Google and MS are evil.

Wow. You could substitute the words "moon landing" or "JFK shooting" and you'd still find a way to make me into an Apple apologist.

An independent, duly-authorized body finds no fault. Accusers, who did not object to the investigation nor the particular body performing said investigation, suddenly object to the results when they don't line up with their accusations.

When you call the police on your neighbors and they don't find the weed in their backyard, apparently you assume the police are corrupt.
 
And as the Nightline piece made clear, it's actually making their FAMILIES a hell of a lot of money too. This is a time honored tradition of a family member going off to work hard, make a lot of money and send it home to help the rest of the family.

According to several reports this and the stress that comes with it is a greater factor in the suicide attempts than the actual work conditions ever were. Particularly when Foxconn paid death benefits for any death, accident or not. When they changed that policy to eliminate payments that weren't work related deaths the attempts dropped because these young folks couldn't kill themselves and get their families a big pay out. Or so the reports claimed.
 
Secondly, it really isn't THAT BAD of a deal! Getting paid $2/hour for 60 hours weeks

Yeah there is nothing wrong with kids working 60 hours a week... and $2 that's sweet as... :-/

I swear Apple could put toddlers fingers in an iPhone for better reception and the fanboys wouldn't have an issue with it.
 
Yeah there is nothing wrong with kids working 60 hours a week... and $2 that's sweet as... :-/

I swear Apple could put toddlers fingers in an iPhone for better reception and the fanboys wouldn't have an issue with it.

How much would you have them be paid? When workers at a restaurant are paid $0.50 an hour, and a house costs $1000, and a hotel bed costs $2 a night. Workers at Foxconn are some of the richest unskilled workers in the province. What's fair? Should they be paid more than doctors? Lawyers? Just because they make something you buy doesn't mean they deserve to be turned into land barrons. The price level in China is FAAAR lower than in the western world, so $2 a day must be put in context.
 
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