Foxconn Acquires Popular Accessory Maker Belkin Along With Linksys and Wemo


Dr_Charles_Forbin

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Cool! Now I don’t have to actively seek ways to get my router hacked, now it’ll come pre-modified.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Fortunately no more Linksys for me - all CISCO and SonicWall which, as far I know, is secure.
 

H3LL5P4WN

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Foxconn is only a Chinese company if you are a member of the CCP. To the rest of the world it’s a Taiwanese company. U.S. has a say. Can’t think of a legit reason to deny the sale. USB hubs and WiFi routers are hardly national security tech.
Except that those kinds of things end up being used in "secure" locations and businesses... and in the homes of employees of those "secure" locations and businesses... where those employees of those "secure" locations and businesses take their laptops home or VPN in and connect to the internet through that WiFi router.

Just sayin'.
 
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Chupa Chupa

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Not so sure about that. Your access point to the internet and the data that flows through it is very much a national security issue. That’s why the US blocked Qualcomm buying Broadcom (5G cellular).
No. CE is CE. US blocked the Qualcomm deal because Qualcomm has patents for the actual underlying 5G technology. Routers are fungible.
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Botnets? Backdoors? I would consider those huge concerns.

But that said, I think Foxconn won't jeopardize themselves by playing in that playground. They've got too much to lose. Or am I being too nice?
Would you really? If so then how are you even communicating on this forum because Foxconn manufactures for just about every major computer and cell phone company plus many other CE devices.
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Except that those kinds of things end up being used in "secure" locations and businesses... and in the homes of employees of those "secure" locations and businesses... where those employees of those "secure" locations and businesses take their laptops home or VPN in and connect to the internet through that WiFi router.

Just sayin'.
Again, a good bit of those laptops you speak of are already made by Foxconn so if it's Foxconn you fear then it's way too late. They are already in our bedrooms and boardrooms. Also it's not like Linksys has a monopoly on routers. If you don't trust Foxconn pick another brand.

BTW last I checked, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon were all U.S. companies, so there is that.
 
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B4U

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Tell me.. Which country besides your own has been a grateful bunch for you?
Just to name a couple: Canada, Japan.
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Not so sure about that. Your access point to the internet and the data that flows through it is very much a national security issue. That’s why the US blocked Qualcomm buying Broadcom (5G cellular).

I don’t believe that this is a stable distinction.
Until the communists decided to take over Taiwan and the US steps in to interfere.
 

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Just to name a couple: Canada, Japan.
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Until the communists decided to take over Taiwan and the US steps in to interfere.
Haven't dealt with Canadians, but if you say all Japanese companies are a grateful bunch, you haven't seen the full picture.
 
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H3LL5P4WN

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[QUOTE="Chupa Chupa, post: 25927360, member: 6108"}Again, a good bit of those laptops you speak of are already made by Foxconn so if it's Foxconn you fear then it's way too late. They are already in our bedrooms and boardrooms. Also it's not like Linksys has a monopoly on routers. If you don't trust Foxconn pick another brand.

BTW last I checked, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon were all U.S. companies, so there is that.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't meaning that to pick on Foxconn, I was just pointing out that consumer products do find their way into places that would generally be considered secure or carry data that would generally be considered secure.
 

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No. CE is CE. US blocked the Qualcomm deal because Qualcomm has patents for the actual underlying 5G technology. Routers are fungible.
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Would you really? If so then how are you even communicating on this forum because Foxconn manufactures for just about every major computer and cell phone company plus many other CE devices.
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Again, a good bit of those laptops you speak of are already made by Foxconn so if it's Foxconn you fear then it's way too late. They are already in our bedrooms and boardrooms. Also it's not like Linksys has a monopoly on routers. If you don't trust Foxconn pick another brand.

BTW last I checked, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon were all U.S. companies, so there is that.
This may all be true, but it doesn’t refute the idea that a foreign monopoly on access point technology wouldn’t be a national security concern. It just means that, as you suggested, it may be too late.

Until the communists decided to take over Taiwan and the US steps in to interfere.
Sure, an all out war with China will go well. Tell me how we’re doing stopping them from terraforming in the South China Sea? Russia couldn’t even be stopped from annexing Crimea. Taiwan is as essential to China as the Koran is to Islam, and I wouldn’t particularly want to be Taiwanese as the Chinese progressively exert themselves.
 
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Chupa Chupa

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This may all be true, but it doesn’t refute the idea that a foreign monopoly on access point technology wouldn’t be a national security concern. It just means that, as you suggested, it may be too late.
But you are adding hypothetical facts that don't apply here. Might as well talk about potential mutant unicorn attack on Dodo birds. What monopoly?

I'm not suggesting it's too late either. I'm suggesting if you are concerned you are too late because Foxconn's infiltration in U.S. CE goes way beyond routers. What I am saying is that the sale of a U.S. company that markets routers among other accessories does not represent a national security concern. If it was a concern then Huawei and other Chinese CE companies wouldn't be allowed to sell cellphones or computers or accessories in the U.S.
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I wasn't meaning that to pick on Foxconn, I was just pointing out that consumer products do find their way into places that would generally be considered secure or carry data that would generally be considered secure.
But of course you meant to "pick" on Foxconn because there are focus here. They are the foreign company buying a U.S. company. That's the discussion point here. Of course CE products in general can have security risks. The question here is does the sale of a U.S. company that markets routers create a national security risk. The answer is no. Routers are not high tech and Linksys certainly isn't the only router company in America. If Linksys went off the rails plenty of other manufacturers for consumers to consider.
 

Dr_Charles_Forbin

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But you are adding hypothetical facts that don't apply here. Might as well talk about potential mutant unicorn attack on Dodo birds. What monopoly?

I'm not suggesting it's too late either. I'm suggesting if you are concerned you are too late because Foxconn's infiltration in U.S. CE goes way beyond routers. What I am saying is that the sale of a U.S. company that markets routers among other accessories does not represent a national security concern. If it was a concern then Huawei and other Chinese CE companies wouldn't be allowed to sell cellphones or computers or accessories in the U.S.
We’re talking apples and oranges here. They’ve been selling off brand CE for years. It’s Linksys’ IP that is really the issue.
 

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But of course you meant to "pick" on Foxconn because there are focus here. They are the foreign company buying a U.S. company. That's the discussion point here. Of course CE products in general can have security risks. The question here is does the sale of a U.S. company that markets routers create a national security risk. The answer is no. Routers are not high tech and Linksys certainly isn't the only router company in America. If Linksys went off the rails plenty of other manufacturers for consumers to consider.
Except that, you know, it can.
 

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FYI:
Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., Ltd., trading as Foxconn Technology Group, is a multinational electronics contract manufacturing company headquartered in Tucheng, New Taipei, Taiwan. ... The company is the largest private employer in China and one of the largest employers worldwide. Its founder and chairman is Terry Gou.
If one listens to the Chinese Government, Taiwan is a special district of China. Everyone else says independent country.
 

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Cool! Now I don’t have to actively seek ways to get my router hacked, now it’ll come pre-modified.
Don't even get it that this post gets many upvotes, if you are an American you should look inwards, 100% sure the USA has much more information on you than China, and it has also been proven that the states built in malware into routers.
 

BuffaloTF

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MacRumors just approved the reunification of China on behalf of the 1.3 billion people across the strait.
Oddly enough, it works both ways since both countries, as we know them in China and Taiwan, consider themselves the rightful government of “China” inclusive of both. It’s just China has bigger guns so we kinda pretend they are.
 

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I hope this means we’ll get a qode Pro Keyboard for the iPad pro’s.

Borderline prefer an iPad Air 2 with a Belkin qode Pro Keyboard set up over an iPad Pro with an ASK.
 

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Is this already a done-deal? It seems like something CFIUS would have taken a good look at simply because of Linksys.
 

Carlanga

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Yeah, not the bulbs. WeMo gave up on them at the end of 2016 anyway. I have the Wemo Bridge. HomeKit only works with the latest plugs and light switches.
First gen plugs are a no as well (the non mini ones)?
 

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Wemo suppots HomeKit now using $39 home bridge. I bought one last month and all my Wemo devices are HomeKit enabled now.
I bought the Wemo bridge and was disappointed. It doesn't enable the bulbs and the Maker. Only smart plugs and light switches. Considering the bulbs are supposed to work for 20+ yrs, *I* haven't "given up on them".
 
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This may all be true, but it doesn’t refute the idea that a foreign monopoly on access point technology wouldn’t be a national security concern. It just means that, as you suggested, it may be too late.


Sure, an all out war with China will go well. Tell me how we’re doing stopping them from terraforming in the South China Sea? Russia couldn’t even be stopped from annexing Crimea. Taiwan is as essential to China as the Koran is to Islam, and I wouldn’t particularly want to be Taiwanese as the Chinese progressively exert themselves.
Taiwan may belong to China, but it certainly does not belong to the CCP.
 

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Cool! Now I don’t have to actively seek ways to get my router hacked, now it’ll come pre-modified.
Yeah, I can have all my data spied on by the Chinese government. They have a hand in all things in China... er... like owning a 51% share in all Chinese companies.