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Foxconn Begins Seasonal Hiring Spree Ahead of 2018 iPhones
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Not a statistic Apple should be proud of.
I guess the flock will still go out and buy their shiny new iPhones and be proud regardless of the conditions in which they were manufactured.
Bingo. Their new iPhone is more important to them than the life of another human. And instead of admitting this, they will double down and defend themselves by deflecting and lying.
It is even better because inside the iPhone you also get a lithium cobalt battery and who knows perhaps even tantalum capacitors and other conflict minerals.
National average is not the appropriate metric. You should be comparing Foxconn's suicide rate to similar companies who employ underage slave labor, both with and without suicide netting installed at their factories.
I don't bother with Foxconn.
I'm more bothered with the Samsung components that Apple uses, where Samsung actually poisons their workers with cancerinogens, and then the same company buys the press and the government to cover it up.
Here's something that you don't see in the same media that calls the Foxconn factory an "Apple iPhone factory"...
I am not saying Samsung are not guilty of the same. The point I was attempting to make is Apple should lead by example.I don't bother with Foxconn.
I'm more bothered with the Samsung components that Apple uses, where Samsung actually poisons their workers with cancerinogens, and then the same company buys the press and the government to cover it up.
Here's something that you don't see in the same media that calls the Foxconn factory an "Apple iPhone factory"...
I use Apple and Samsung products do you think I am proud? Of course not and neither should be any of us.
Aside from some of the off-topic comments, this doesn’t shock me that they are now increasing their hires due to the production starting with the iPhone right about this time and ramps up in August. Hopefully production numbers are good this year, Being they are in all likeliness offering three models. The 6.1 being the most interesting to see what it has to offer.
You can period all you want but LCD has been almost perfected whilst OLED has many issues.
Regardless, (for me) the most annoying issues are 'glitter' effect when moving, eye strain. Those 2 itself are deal breaker for me regardless how you wanna period that.
And seeing that I'm not the only one I think its fair to say such comment.
You're talking about Apple, right?
Because Apple, Amazon, Sony and Nintendo (just to name a few) have all contracted with Foxconn. Ergo, they each can be said to have blood on their hands.
Just because it's Foxconn's sign on the factory doesn't mean Apple isn't complicit. And by that same logic, you and me.
We don’t hear about them because Apple doesn’t use them. Foxconn was only a story because they supplied Apple. If you want proof look at all the Foxconn articles, Apple are in the headline every time.
No mention of Acer, Sony, Nintendo, Amazon, Microsoft and a bunch more other major companies who use the same factory, only Apple.
Less people commit suicide at the factory than what the national level is for China. What exactly is the problem?
The fact that any employees are committing suicide relating to Apple manufacturing practices is sad and extremely concerning. Numbers and statistics are irrelevant.
Will not buying an iPhone bring back anyone who committed suicide? I don't see the relation between buying an iPhone and caring about the life of another human. Do more people commit suicide with each iPhone purchase? Is there perhaps a better way to fix the problem than to just stop buying iPhones? If everyone stopped buying iPhones, how many hundreds of thousands of lives would be negatively affected because they couldn't get a job assembling iPhones? If there was another, better job option for those people, wouldn't they already be choosing that over assembling phones?
There are a lot of unanswered questions here, least of which is how guilty we should all feel about something we did not cause and have no control over.
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*Foxconn manufacturing practices...
Fixed it for you.
The sole reason why Apple are mentioned is they are the brand leader in their field and as such should set an example for other manufacturers to aspire to.
The attitude that it is reasonable to expect employees to work in such conditions if others do it is unacceptable. The sole reason why iPhones and other Apple products are manufactured in China is because of Cheap Labour.
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Not so. It is Apple who are contracting Foxconn to manufacture the iPhone therefore it is Apple who are responsible to ensure the working conditions are acceptable.
No, Apple is contracting Foxconn to manufacture the iPhone, period. It is the responsibility of the Foxconn executives and the government and laws which Foxconn operates under to ensure the working conditions are acceptable.
Of course, Apple can always choose to make a request to Foxconn that their products not be manufactured under such dire working conditions or they can choose to work with another manufacturer. Apple has done both. They have made such requests and they are diverting much of the manufacturing to another company, Pegatron.
Apple has done more than is required of them, and those who feel like they still aren't doing enough can choose not to use their products. You still use them, as you mentioned in a previous post, so what emotional appeal are you trying to make here? That it's ok to buy products produced by "cheap labour" as long as you feel guilty every time you use them or what?
Not so. As it is Apple who are contracting Foxconn to produce the iPhone it is Apple who are responsible for overseeing the entire manufacturing process. As I outlined before I use Apple products but I am no less aware and saddened of such working environments unlike some consumers who turn a blind eye to the fact their shiny new iPhone was manufactured a whole world away from the luxury Apple boutiques.
You mention Pegatron well they have an even worse track record than Foxconn. Perhaps you should watch the video I posted earlier
BBC Panorama 'Apples Broken Promises'
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So as long as you are "aware and saddened of such working environments" it is perfectly fine to continue purchasing the products and supporting the company who, according to you, is turning a blind eye to the working environments that you claim to be so saddened by. Got it.
Maybe he just has a different approach than you. Maybe he chooses to effect change from within the Apple universe, as opposed to allowing them to claim that "none of our customers care about this issue", which you apparently hope is the case.
“Brand leader in their field”
The factory also produces consoles, PCs, laptops, ebooks, printers, TVs, hubs, routers, monitors - all kinds of tech.
But they choose Apple, because Apple gets clicks, views and comments.
They choose Apple because Apple has a much higher profile than other manufacturers. Apple have created this higher profile in spending massive amounts on sales boutiques. The only reason Apple contract the likes of Foxconn is to take advantage of cheap labour.
The expensive sales boutiques and cheap labour are a whole world away from each other. That is the reason why Apple gets more media attention than other manufacturers.
What Apple should do is pull all production out of China and switch back to production in the US with improved working conditions. It would cost more but would set an example to other manufacturers.