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Foxconn Hiring Record 100,000 New Employees for iPhone 6 Production as Pegatron Also Staffs Up
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This is China, and things are different. There are millions of people living in poor villages making a meagre living from farming. The adventurous people go to the big towns and find jobs, if they are lucky at a well paying place like Foxconn. Then they work, doing as much overtime as they can, spend as little money as they can, and return home as a rich person (rich compared to the other people in their poor village). They most definitely don't go "back out on the street" because they never lived "in the street".
That's why workers at Foxconn live in dorms - it's not because they can't afford living in a decent home, it is because (a) there are no decent homes for 100,000 new employees there, and (b) these 100,000 employees don't intend to stay there, they intend to return home with as much savings as possible.
Salaries in China are lower than in the USA. Cost of living in China is also a lot lower than in the USA. Lower salaries mean that school teachers make less, so putting children into schools is cheaper. Hairdressers make less money, so getting a haircut costs a lot less, and so on and so on. Everything is a lot cheaper. And Foxconn has been raising salaries massively in the last years; someone working at Foxconn may get less money than minimum wage in the USA, but can either afford a massively better life style, or save tons of money while they work at Foxconn.
By the way, you are wrong. China has minimum wages, so your whole blustering falls apart at that point. The USA on the other hand apparently don't teach kids at school how to use a search engine.
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apple is paying for the labor and other costs. these people are employed to work on an apple products and it should very much be apples interest how they are treated. the left hand knows exactly what the right hand is doing.
but one must wonder the immense task of adding so many workers at the snap of a finger and what possible corners are cut and we in the western world would appreciate those conditions
Skilled and reliable? They don't really have to be either. Slaves do the work because of fear, not because of skill or reliability reasons. There should be taxes in place to force companies to pay the diffence between local labor and this kind of crap.
And, if it wasn't for never happy obnoxious shareholders, apple could have those jobs here and keep prices stable if they'd take the difference off the profit. Even so, most would pay slightly more to help our own economy.
Rant over.
I just wish they would revamp or upgrade the iPhone4 design. Small, stylish, always with you. I love my 4s but fear that with iOS8 it will become too slow to use.
Why not put a A7 in there, a bit more RAM and 5Ghz w-Lan und relaunch? Why is everybody going for bathroom tile size? Just because the design is 4 years old is not making it bad.
Why not put a A7 in there, a bit more RAM and 5Ghz w-Lan und relaunch? Why is everybody going for bathroom tile size? Just because the design is 4 years old is not making it bad.
You are thinking parochially. The point isn't that robots can do the work TODAY, but that they will be able to do so within a decade.
Technology changes. What it does is dictated by needs and desires. At the moment, a robot can fold a piece of laundry in about 20x the time a person can do it. Give it a few years and it will do so at 2x the time, then the same time, then faster. And then it works without error for 24 hrs straight and has no union or medical or theft, etc.
People talking about the industrial robot revolution are thinking of the future which is certainly coming. It will make a lot of people unemployable unless they can develop skills robots can't do. At that point the world becomes plugged into a serious social-economic problem that can become a tyrannical cul-de-sac for humanity.
They have to be skilled at doing small tasks and reliable from fear of losing a job, something tough to find in modern China.
The skill level is non-existent if they have brains and hands and feet and eyes in working order. Imagine a skill level needed to put part A in slot B 1000x a day. Imagine skill levels needed for putting products in boxes, checking work of others, or confirming shipping labels, etc.
Wow same old looking iPhone, sure its finally bigger (I as many others did say this years ago!) but no real design change, I suppose there isn't a lot you can do with a rectangle apart from round the corners. I had hope it would have the edge to edge screen or some kind of new look. Maybe they added another colour Platinum...
Platinum...
Probably a large percentage of these 100,000 are existing contractors having their contracts renewed.
Brick
When I go my first iPhone, a 3GS, I thought it was a bit big and heavy. I consoled my myself with the belief that as things progressed they would get smaller and lighter.
As it is happening, they are just getting bigger and bigger. The difference between an iPad and iPhone is narrowing. Now I understand that for some people it is the only device they have, so bigger is better, fine.
But, I am surprised that Apple doesn't consider making a small light iPhone that doesn't pull you shorts down if you don't carry a handbag.
As it stands, all iPhones are bricks.
When I go my first iPhone, a 3GS, I thought it was a bit big and heavy. I consoled my myself with the belief that as things progressed they would get smaller and lighter.
As it is happening, they are just getting bigger and bigger. The difference between an iPad and iPhone is narrowing. Now I understand that for some people it is the only device they have, so bigger is better, fine.
But, I am surprised that Apple doesn't consider making a small light iPhone that doesn't pull you shorts down if you don't carry a handbag.
As it stands, all iPhones are bricks.
You think a 5c or a 5s is "a brick"
? Anyway, i think you'll find you are in a very small minority. The craze for tiny phones came and went about 10 years ago, both because of the web and games use needing a bigger screen, plus the fact that you cannot get a decent battery in a credit card sized phone.
You think a 5c or a 5s is "a brick"
Anyway, i think you'll find you are in a very small minority. The craze for tiny phones came and went about 10 years ago, both because of the web and games use needing a bigger screen, plus the fact that you cannot get a decent battery in a credit card sized phone.
When my iPhone 4 breaks down, I hope there will be an iPhone 6 or 7 with the size of the current iPhone 5s/c. I spend quite some time behind a computer, I really don't need a bigger iPhone for web/games/etc. I prefer a smaller sized phone over a big one.
Possibly by that time, the iPhone 5s will be a bit cheaper, I'll get that one
Is that really because of the bezels or lack thereof?
If the iPhone had capacitive buttons instead of the current physical home button, I'm thinking it will be equally as annoying.
100,000 New Jobs in China...
I give it a week before the damned tree huggers start whining about Apple abusing employees.
I've been to China, I've been to some of those factories. You know what? They want those jobs and they would work 20 hours a day if they could.
And NO, Im not saying they should.
I give it a week before the damned tree huggers start whining about Apple abusing employees.
I've been to China, I've been to some of those factories. You know what? They want those jobs and they would work 20 hours a day if they could.
And NO, Im not saying they should.
You think a 5c or a 5s is "a brick"
Anyway, i think you'll find you are in a very small minority. The craze for tiny phones came and went about 10 years ago, both because of the web and games use needing a bigger screen, plus the fact that you cannot get a decent battery in a credit card sized phone.
Some people just want a smartish phone for basic use. Portability is a major issue for me. The choice would be nice. Yes, all are bricks and need you to carry a bag or wear a jacket. In hot countries it just does not cut it.
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Wow same old looking iPhone, sure its finally bigger (I as many others did say this years ago!) but no real design change, I suppose there isn't a lot you can do with a rectangle apart from round the corners. I had hope it would have the edge to edge screen or some kind of new look. Maybe they added another colour
Personally I think the designs have changed massively through each generation of iPhone! The external aesthetics are similar but very different, the only consistent areas are the bezels.
The home button has changed the materials have changed, plastic, steel and aluminium, the headphone jack, the volume button style, the port connector, the antenna breaks, speaker grills etc.
I think maybe you are a bit of ADHD wanting something different is not something you actually want!
Apple has a design language and continuity that everyone loves, it makes products familiar and easy to use despite them being a totally new product. The OS has stayed similar but functions in new ways, this is actually very very hard and is not apple being lazy at all!
The other tech companies struggle to make even two products match in looks, style and design now that is LAZY!
What would the iPhone6 retail price need to be if this were 100,000 new U.S. manufacturing jobs? Has United States labor and regulatory overhead become too expensive to manufacture any consumer goods?
When my iPhone 4 breaks down, I hope there will be an iPhone 6 or 7 with the size of the current iPhone 5s/c. I spend quite some time behind a computer, I really don't need a bigger iPhone for web/games/etc. I prefer a smaller sized phone over a big one.
Possibly by that time, the iPhone 5s will be a bit cheaper, I'll get that one
I'm guessing the 5c will remain and stay the same size for legacy use?
iphone 5c 4 inches (10 cm)
iphone 6 4.7 inches (12 cm)
iphone 6 5.5 inches (14 cm)
kinda looking like a 3 phone lineup isn't it?
They are always behind at launch.
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Don't know you guys, they may discontinue the 5c and make the 5s the legacy 4" model. That would be better I guess. It's up to them.
I flinch a little every time I see that huge bezel at the top. I mean sure the bottom part is necessary to accommodate touch ID, but why keep that huge area at the top? just for symmetry?
Beauty is a function of symmetry:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_symmetry
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Why doubt it? Haven't you heard of seasonal employees in retail? They probably all have 6 month contracts for the iSeason.
Skilled and reliable? They don't really have to be either. Slaves do the work because of fear, not because of skill or reliability reasons. There should be taxes in place to force companies to pay the diffence between local labor and this kind of crap.
And, if it wasn't for never happy obnoxious shareholders, apple could have those jobs here and keep prices stable if they'd take the difference off the profit. Even so, most would pay slightly more to help our own economy.
Rant over.
Contrary to popular belief, it is our governments stinking high corporate taxes/regulation burdens. No doubt Apple would like to have all manufacturing in the U.S. if they could afford it. We can't judge how much less profit they could stay in business with....this is a free country, they are free people, and Apple is a private company....it's their business, literally
. Oh and BTW, I AM NOT SAYING all these shareholders are great people, please understand this.