Well then, I'd like to see a "Made in the USA" option for +$53.50 and see how many people would actually fork over the extra fifty bucks. If I'm being honest with myself... I wouldn't.
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Foxconn Reportedly Close to Deal to Open iPhone Manufacturing Facility in India
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Well then, I'd like to see a "Made in the USA" option for +$53.50 and see how many people would actually fork over the extra fifty bucks. If I'm being honest with myself... I wouldn't.
That's what they say. They're mainly focused on the US as if it's the only country out there.
I don't understand. So poor chinese workers have extensive education to assemble idevices whereas the average US high school graduate is too poorly prepared? I think someone at Apple said something along those lines too but it does not make any sense. What they really mean is that it is easier to outsource those low skill jobs to China.
However, it is likely that doing business in China will become increasingly difficult. At some point the unfair nature of the Chinese government drive foreign companies out.
Triple down on security for that place. Also. Do not have final firmware builds even close to fhat
One thing Trump wants to do is massive tax breaks for domestic manufacturing. No one else has that on their platform.
I'd honestly like to know what Trump will actually end up doing, but his reputation is so terrible that it's hard to actually come across anything that isn't biased as hell on either side of the debate.
that's very good news to us for multiple reasons!
INNOVATION REASON:
first of all, iPhone is going to be cheaper. Not in retail price of course, but in production costs. that means more profits for Apple and Foxconn, that they can spend on "innovation". or "efforts".
SAFETY REASONS:
Safety nets will also not be required. Suicide yields bad karma, Indian workers will most likely not jump if they are having a bad day.
ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS:
Apple will also get "greener" since some of the rare earth metals come from India Already. so no more costly transportation to China Foxconn. They can mention that in their annual greenwashing report.
INNOVATION REASON:
first of all, iPhone is going to be cheaper. Not in retail price of course, but in production costs. that means more profits for Apple and Foxconn, that they can spend on "innovation". or "efforts".
SAFETY REASONS:
Safety nets will also not be required. Suicide yields bad karma, Indian workers will most likely not jump if they are having a bad day.
ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS:
Apple will also get "greener" since some of the rare earth metals come from India Already. so no more costly transportation to China Foxconn. They can mention that in their annual greenwashing report.
Its actually a circle. Cheaper costs do not mean that they'll be passed on to customers i.e. prices may not fall.
However, if costs rise, for example, as a result of moving to a high labour cost locale, Apple will definitely pass on the cost to us customers.
Empowering local workforce would be the way to go but unfortunately, in the global economy, its all about profits!
Cheers !
If only. I'm not an American, but I would pay extra for that . One reason I like the current Mac Pro, only machine that has that stamp
[doublepost=1462861782][/doublepost]India has a very capable workforce for manufacturing Apple devices, this makes sense.
India is a fascinating place to visit, went there for work, and loved it, plan to go back for holiday
I absolutely will not buy anything made in India. You think China makes cheap stuff... By comparison, China is Germany and India is Cambodia.
Chinese goods are only as good as you design and spec them. India doesn't have the talent, or materials, to make quality products.
The Chinese can make excellent products! Some of which can rival, or are better than, things made in Japan, Germany or Switzerland. India has never done this and will never.
This isn't a racist post. This is a fact. Everything made in India is horribly made.
Costs in China are way up. iPhones could be made in the USA, for a profit, but their margins would not satisfy earnings calls. Plenty of things can be made here in the USA but greed trumps all. They want to make 5-600% profit, not 100%.
Chinese goods are only as good as you design and spec them. India doesn't have the talent, or materials, to make quality products.
The Chinese can make excellent products! Some of which can rival, or are better than, things made in Japan, Germany or Switzerland. India has never done this and will never.
This isn't a racist post. This is a fact. Everything made in India is horribly made.
Costs in China are way up. iPhones could be made in the USA, for a profit, but their margins would not satisfy earnings calls. Plenty of things can be made here in the USA but greed trumps all. They want to make 5-600% profit, not 100%.
It doesn't matter what I would do. The question is, would 10M other Americans pay $60 more for a "made in USA" label? I think not. How many people bought the Moto X for that reason?
Quality of products in India depends completely on the level of QA and manufacturing rigour : the same as China.
An Apple product coming out of China is well made because of the stringent QA processes. Compare these to the cheap Made in China phone knock-offs that keep flooding the market in India and elsewhere : they are complete trash
If you are not happy buying your Made in India iPhone, feel free to switch brands as I doubt that Apple/Foxconn will consult us before deciding where they will manufacture.
Cheers !
Myth. Only a minority of USA manufacturing plants are unionized. Very unlikely Apple manufacturing employees would be unionized. Almost certain they would not be unionized at first.
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Neither "India" nor "China" will ever make iPhones. Foxconn (and its employees) does and will.
Want to know if something is racist? Look for the telltale "I'm not racist, but..."
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No they did not! Some people are full of it.So did Motorola import workers from China to make the Moto X?
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One thing to keep in mind is that Asia didn't invent most of these parts. The U.S did some from Japan and Europe.
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Where did you get those numbers?
Sure, bring the business back to America. Minimum wage in America will be $15 an hour soon. Yeah right, bring the jobs back to America.... Good business practice to do so right? Come on, get real and wake up.
So did Motorola import workers from China to make the Moto X?
Do you have an idea of what kind of infrastructure, other than workforce, is needed for producing >50 million phones a quarter? Can you even picture 50 million boxes? The Moto X sells about nothing.
I think it's great to see manufacturing being done outside of China for no other reason than taking the eggs out of one basket.
The raising minimum wage = even less incentive for manufacturing jobs in the USA. Don't hold your breath for any Made in USA iPhones any time soon.
The raising minimum wage = even less incentive for manufacturing jobs in the USA. Don't hold your breath for any Made in USA iPhones any time soon.
Twenty years ago I avoided purchasing electronics made in China. If it didn't say "Made in Japan", it never got into my house unless I had no other choice. No issues with most Chinese-made products I've purchased in recent years. Of course, good manufacturing protocols, quality control, strict supervision, good specs from the beginning, etc. make a difference. Now, I think you may have a good point about India, but it's possible I would've agreed with you if you had said the same thing about China years ago. Anyway, for whatever reason Apple is possibly moving some production to India, it would be a good idea to spread their manufacturing eggs to other baskets, especially in light of the Chinese government's more hostile behavior as of late. Maybe some US production can be in the cards as well.
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Use them, abuse them, spit them out, then move on to the next poverty stricken country to exploit. Rinse and repeat. Disgusting corporate behaviour, Apple. Absolutely atrocious. Apple's offshore factory workers are getting a terrible deal while employees in Cupertino are getting a sweet lifestyle and beautifully crisp campus off of the offshore factory worker's backs.
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That's a joke. Apple could reduce the retail cost of the iPhone by at least 100$ while having it made in the USA and still make a handsome profit out of it. Apple are the greedy pigs of the industry and the quality of their designs are getting poorer each year.
So did Motorola import workers from China to make the Moto X?
The iPhone is 1. a more high end device. 2. Sells ~300,000,000 units per year. 3. Often sells 10,000,000 in an opening weekend.
Motorola sells about 10,000,000 smartphones per quarter.
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That's not what reviews say. Apple remains the hardware quality King by a wide margin.
Reviews? Paid reviews? Paid comment? Featured articles? The quality of the designs have been getting poorer each year since 2013, iPhone 6/6s is terribly unresolved.
I won't pay premium for any indian made apple product.
I just don't want any product made in India.
(no offencs to Indian people)
I just don't want any product made in India.
(no offencs to Indian people)
Many other phone manufacturers have their products assembled in poverty stricken countries. Where's the outrage against them? Is it less of an outrage because those phones are cheaper than the iPhone?