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Probably. That type is the first to cry about insult and injury.
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I didn't think someone could make a dumber comment than the original Emperor line; but, there you go.
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Probably. That type is the first to cry about insult and injury.
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I didn't think someone could make a dumber comment than the original Emperor line; but, there you go.
Do you think that companies that earn lots of money just put it all in a big money room and let it sit there forever?
Why do people refer to low-wage employees in China as slaves? Slaves are forced to work, while they're climbing over each other for those jobs.
You want my short answer?
http://www.businessinsider.com/global-cash-reserves-companies-nations-2014-4
No they use Fanuc for assembly. Check out all the iPhone marketing videos and you will see Fanuc robots.
I think that's a bit scary. A robot can't do as good of a job as a human? How hard is this job? What happens to those people who'll be out of work after the robots become perfected?...
Maybe in the short term, depending on how you count the costs, but in the long term no.
America is a capitalist culture money first morals come after. Greed will be the down fall of this country. There are people that take out student loans, graduate from college and can't find the profession they are qualified for. And is working some where else other than where they should be when they graduated from college. Most is working just to pay student loans. I personally think college education should be free for everyone. The only time education is free is when u go into the army. And even that they sell to young people. I know a lot of young men and woman who goes into the service because the army will pay for school. The future is not looking to good at all for our future generations. All these companies taking the jobs overseas. Pay less to manufacture and sell for more= big profits. And at the sametime building up other countries economy instead of ours. Not looking to good for us at all.
This country was founded against this practice so how did it happen? Just asked the international bankers in Europe that regained control of this country in 1913! George Washington fought against England and Germany that stood for such evil that you now see today worldwide.
Just because you are throwing them a pittance for their labor doesn't remove the slave label. Typical shareholder thinking is the classic "but their lives are so much better because of us". Yeah, right.
Once they are being paid the equivalent of $15+ bucks an hour with complete benefits, vacation, sick time, health care, and everything else....THEN we'll remove the slave label. Until then, they are being exploited because they are miserable and have nothing else. Those are the facts.
Foxconn use Chinese people to assemble iPhones because they are short. Their eyes and fingers are closer to the small electronic components compared to robots or other nationalities.
Robots are too big and gangly, and are too far away from the integrated circuitry. That's why Chinese built Foxconn products are better.
Taken from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96iJsdGkl44
Robots are too big and gangly, and are too far away from the integrated circuitry. That's why Chinese built Foxconn products are better.
FOXCONN
Because Robots are too big and clunky
Because Robots are too big and clunky
Taken from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96iJsdGkl44
I think the goal here is even cheaper production costs. It's all about the money. Wages are going up in China.
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Lol at first I thought that was super racist, than I watched the Sony ad. It's amazing how politically correct we have become, you would not get that ad these days, though huge thumbs up to Sony, very clever.
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I think I remember the movie where George Washington is a vampire slayer, what's the title of the movie in which he is killing nazis???
Sometimes I question the European education system, I feel I missed out on so much everytime I read MR. Its the English and Germans behind it all, they have a history of getting along.
I don't think that's a real advert. It's from the movie Crazy People. A tongue-in-cheek comedy about the advertising industry.
Based on the IMDB reviews, I'll add it to my watch list. Thanks!
Please explain what makes you think they are not making the equivalent of $15+ bucks an hour in the USA, after suitable adjustments for living cost. And I'm sure there are plenty of Americans who are not making $15 an hour.
I'm complaining about protectionism and you wonder if I know that protectionism exists?
So you're saying that their lives became worse after industrialisation? Well, China's booming middle class might think different...
When people move from subsistence agriculture into cities they simply aren't worth very much, because they have no skills that can be applied in industrial or commercial jobs. If all they can do is assemble basic components then why would they be paid over US $15 an hour? For that amount of money could hire western workers who are more skilled.
Also, it's worth mentioning that the cost of living in China is significantly lower than in the US, so the money they get paid will buy more:
Consumer Prices in China are 35.28% lower than in United States
Consumer Prices Including Rent in China are 36.23% lower than in United States
Rent Prices in China are 38.32% lower than in United States
Restaurant Prices in China are 45.22% lower than in United States
Groceries Prices in China are 38.11% lower than in United States
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At FoxConn a regular worker makes the equivalent of US $9.5 a day, plus I'm pretty sure they also can live on-site, removing the cost of accommodation and food. 6-20% of China's population lives on less than $1.25 a day, and I'm guessing those people are in agriculture (what everyone did in China prior to industrialisation). 67% of China's population live under $5 a day. These numbers are from 2009, so things have probably improved since then... even still, these FoxConn workers are in the top 30%. I don't think they're too miserable...
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Ok, lets get this straight... At the moment a huge number of young Americans are going to university, and many are unable to find jobs with the skills they learnt there. So your solution is to socialise the cost of university so that even more people will go? Do you see the issue with that?
No, it's that I wonder if you even know what you're talking about. Anybody that thinks having a massive trade deficit is a good thing clearly is confused. Unless your goal is to wipe out the middle class.I'm complaining about protectionism and you wonder if I know that protectionism exists?
You love to keep putting words in my mouth. Here, let me try that... Anyone that thinks hit-and-runs are a good thing clearly is confused. Unless your goal is to wipe out pedestrian traffic. So let's be gentlemen and debate reasonably without attacking each other okay?
So, for the record, in response to all the words you keep trying to put into my mouth that I did not say and do not believe in:
- A massive trade deficit is a bad thing
- I don't want to wipe out the middle class
- Yes I know that protectionist measures are in place
In the original example where "the emperor" would force Apple to make iPhones in the USA and slap 75% tariffs on Chinese-made iPhones, we would (A) increase in some manufacturing jobs, a positive aspect, but we would (B) lose other types jobs, a negative aspect. (The example given being Boeing jobs, farming, and the issues around memory chips). These are real examples by the way!
Those existing tariffs you mention in China, Japan, and Germany are exactly the sort of thing that I'm trying to avoid. We tariff Chinese-made iPhones; they tariff Boeing. It goes 'round and 'round with more and more tariffs on all sides, increasingly stifling international trade.
The WTO exists in large part so that when an unfair tariff or subsidy is applied, the affected country has remedy other than just retaliating in kind.
Ah, we agree! It's good to have some common ground. But I'd point out that not all jobs lost to retaliatory protectionism only hit CEOs, directors, doctors, and lawyers. In retaliation, new or additional tariffs can be applied to our own goods as well (Ford, Chevy, Boeing, big agro, etc). So we'd be adding some manufacturing jobs and losing some manufacturing, farming, and many other types of "base" jobs as well.
Unlikely? It is an indisputable fact that retaliation occurs. The US is involved in many trade wars with tit-for-tat protectionist measures.
I feel further debate is pointless. I think we can agree that neither of us will change the other's mind. I don't need the last word, but if you respond, please don't use straw-man arguments or put words into my mouth. I have faith that you can make opposing but intelligent, thoughtful points about the economy without having to unfairly attack me.
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My whole point is that protectionist measures lead to in-kind measures by affected countries, causing trade wars. I disagree with you that other countries wouldn't do such a thing, because both history and current affairs show that they do.
Trade wars stifle international trade. The more barriers there are to international trade, the more countries with lots of international sales are hurt. Countries that rely on international sales should therefore be working to reduce barriers, and not work on increasing them.
I don't think that's a real advert. It's from the movie Crazy People. A tongue-in-cheek comedy about the advertising industry.
Based on the IMDB reviews, I'll add it to my watch list. Thanks!
Yup, it's from Crazy People, and it's funny. I was trying to be sarcastic in regards to the Robots being not as good as the human workers.
Enjoy the movie