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And that will be the day of skynet. Probably not a nuclear war like the movies. But people will make the first batch of robots. And then the robots will make the 2nd batch, and 3rd batch and so on and so on. Till you get to a point where the whole work force is 100% not human.

Then what happens? People need to eat. And food will never be free. And that will be a very bleak future for anyone around at the time.

Skynet implies intelligence and motive. I tend to think it's more likely they'll simply be programmed to do what they need to do to replace workers. You don't need self-aware robots to replace the human workforce and thus put untold numbers out of work.

And when you see someone post "natural selection" as the response to where are these people going to get jobs when the jobs all disappear you start to understand why the predicament exists in the first place. Beyond certain religious types, most people don't believe in a utopian-like society where people come first and basic needs are always met (like in Star Trek). No, they believe in ME ME ME, which in turn means collecting ungodly amounts of money, property and power (e.g. Steve Jobs is a good example), so much so that they could never possibly spend it in one lifetime or even many lifetimes, yet they hoard all that money (even company-wise), don't use any of it to better the community or the country they live (quite the contrary, they move the jobs OUT of the country, when the profit margins clearly show they could easily have kept in the country and STILL made ungodly amounts of money) and just keep pushing until people are committing suicide and what not.

The point is that greed and self-centered behavior lead to "I don't care" attitudes towards others and "so long as I got mine" actions. This in turn only widens the gap between the have and have-nots and few children growing up dirt poor are going to have opportunities to get out of that situation since the support and education just isn't going to be there. Too bad right? Natural selection. Let the children starve. Let the poor die. Create robots to do their jobs and live it up until the population dwindles and a natural plague eventually wipes humanity out and all that's left are the robots doing their thing. It'd make a good movie, at least.

You can forget about Star Trek and the like. Society will never go there. We are far too spiritually bankrupt to ever create such a world. Even if we had cold fusion and unlimited cheap energy, it wouldn't matter. The few would still lord it over the many and then they'd try to take over the world (seems to be a common theme throughout history from Alexander The Great to Napoleon to Adolph Hiter, someone always wants to rule the entire world with an iron fist. Democracy doesn't really work either. Just look how corrupt it becomes over time. The same thing happened in Rome. History repeats itself again and again. People never learn. They never grow. The setting and technology changes, but people are just the same.

There are two sides to every story. From my point of view it sounds like you're the type of guy who is okay working hard all day for a decent pay while your boss makes all the profit. Youths these days aren't soo gullible to except a high work / low pay job as yesterday.

That explains why so many of them are still living with their parents. They don't want to take a low or even mid paying job. They hold out for that dream job and live in the basement. Kids today are spoiled rotten.
 
So, will the cost savings these robots will bring be passed on to the consumer then? Or will Apple, Sony etc just profit more?

I doubt there will be any cost savings. Instead of thousands of low wage unskilled workers, they will need many more thousands of higher pay robot maintenance and repair workers. Robots redistribute the labor, they don't replace it. It's like Obama replacing doctors with bureaucrats. You replace knowelagable workers with mindless machines. At least robots don't take a one month New Year vacation like Chinese workers do, and they don't committe suicide.
 
I doubt there will be any cost savings. Instead of thousands of low wage unskilled workers, they will need many more thousands of higher pay robot maintenance and repair workers. Robots redistribute the labor, they don't replace it. It's like Obama replacing doctors with bureaucrats. You replace knowelagable workers with mindless machines. At least robots don't take a one month New Year vacation like Chinese workers do, and they don't committe suicide.

Thousands of maintenance and repair workers? Wow, the people that post in this thread are on some wacky weed...
 
Apple used some robots in the Cork plant almost 20 years ago (not for production, but for transporting components around the plant. Last time I was there, they were gathering dust in a quiet corner somewhere; never worked very well. :)

Probably great news for consumers, terrible news for workers.
 
i meant to type million, not billion. either way, call it as you will. as far as poor engineering goes, nothing is perfect, and anything will break when its used 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. i apologize if i offended anyone, and will refrain from any further "BS" have a good day, and remember, its just an internet forum.
 
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Union workers physically destroyed installations where we have full anthropomorphic arms installed on a trail basis doing assembly work at one installation in New Jersey. They tried to write it up as an accident and even tried to pin the blame on the designers. One VP called it "robophobia."

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So now it is the rise of the humans, overturning the machines? The VPs job wasn't being threatened one would guess, and he would make more money if the machines replaced the humans. So he is backing the machines, an unholy alliance.
 
So now it is the rise of the humans, overturning the machines? The VPs job wasn't being threatened one would guess, and he would make more money if the machines replaced the humans. So he is backing the machines, an unholy alliance.

Just trying to make the plant more efficient. The sad story was that he was planning to have the union workers operate the robots and increase each paid position by almost an order or magnitude. Instead, the short sighted union boss though their were going to be replaced by robots after watching too many Twilight Zone reruns.
 
Has anyone noticed the riots in London? It appears to be about no jobs, no real future and the government cutting all social programs to get rid of a budget deficit. Call them criminals, etc., but this is the sort of thing that is only going to get worse as humans are increasingly replaced by robots, jobs continually sent out to cheaper labor markets, etc. all in the name of endless profit for the privileged few that own stock in the companies eliminating the jobs. They say on the news that people don't want the government to create jobs. The jobs should be created by private industry, but it is the private industry that wants to eliminate jobs, not create them. It's a vicious circle, but it's where technology is taking us. Not everyone in the world can be a CEO or Vice President. With over 6 BILLION people in the world, it just doesn't work if all the lay person jobs are eliminated.

I guess countries should be instituting population control policies on a mass scale to help eliminate the problem, but they won't. Countries like the U.S. push the idea that we need more people to keep up with other countries with growing populations. But to do what? Crowd out the entire planet until there's mass starvation? This idea that everyone should have the right to have unlimited children is simply untenable, especially if they cannot afford to support them.
 
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