Foxconn denies China iPhone plant hit by strike
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/06/uk-apple-foxconn-idUKBRE8941JH20121006
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/06/uk-apple-foxconn-idUKBRE8941JH20121006
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Foxconn Workers Reportedly Strike over iPhone 5 Quality Control Demands
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Lots of socialists on this thread, it would seem.
The bottom line is that a person pays for a product - made to a standard, and has the right to complain if short-changed.
The bottom line is that a person pays for a product - made to a standard, and has the right to complain if short-changed.
it's not so much the cost of labor, but the supply of labor. There is no way Apple could find enough U.S. workers to meet demand. And the workers they get here would work at a much slower rate than the Chinese, and for fewer hours. The price would be double as a way to limit the demand. if they held their current price, they'd make less money, but you'd never get your hands on the phone.
I almost didn't read any further the moment the word Gizmodo appeared in the article...
Strict quality controls are needed, too many Chinese factories are used to producing counterfeit so they want to have their cake and eat it.
All the people bashing strict quality controls for sure are the ones also complaining that their devices came DOA or with a yellowish tint thus also wanting to have their cake and eat it.
Treat the labour force well but by all means hold them to the highest standards, if it was easy everyone would be doing it right?
Strict quality controls are needed, too many Chinese factories are used to producing counterfeit so they want to have their cake and eat it.
All the people bashing strict quality controls for sure are the ones also complaining that their devices came DOA or with a yellowish tint thus also wanting to have their cake and eat it.
Treat the labour force well but by all means hold them to the highest standards, if it was easy everyone would be doing it right?
You make good points, but don't get too much in a wad over the fact that a small number of people on this thread are insensitive to workers in China. There's also plenty of posts here (much like yours) from people who empathize with what those workers must be going through.
Under-paid under-educated chinese farmers cannot produce techonoly they havent seen or understand. Bring the jobs back to Europe and North America.
I buy my phone from Apple, that is who I pay....it is their problem. They selected their suppliers, they set the standards, and they are responsible for their upkeep.
I did and I understand what you are saying, I was just making the point.
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As well as the other 10+ major tech companies which have stuff manufactured there...
Sorry guys, but you don't know s*** about working conditions outside the US. Factory workers in Eastern Europe (Poland, Ukraine, etc.) earn about $2-3/hour and they have to survive somehow. They woluld be happy to work more hours but workplaces are dissappearing because all the big companies move to China.
And all you can see are poor working conditions in China, yeah...
And all you can see are poor working conditions in China, yeah...
Here in poland its not just the factory workers earning that, but its hardly 3rd world either. The Americans on here are pretty ignorant. You need to stop converting it to usd because its just not the same. I know student waitresses here in Krakow (nice city) earning 3zł per hour. Go convert that to usd! The average wage id say is around 8złper hour. Coming from New Zealand I was shocked at first but after a while I just had to stop converting because almost everything is cheaper than nz. Im sure the wage at foxconn is actually pretty good. Its the conditions that need to be addressed but its a chinese problem because from what ive read foxconn is better than the norm.
There are countries in europe earning this sort of money. Are you the un-educated one?
The sad fact of life is that living in Europe is far more expensive than in the US. I've spent couple of years living in NYC and right now I live in Krakow (Poland). I have to say - people earn MUCH LESS (as you said about $3-4/hour) and almost everything is more expensive than in the US (gas - 2 times the price in the US, clothes, cars, all the electronic stuff, houses). Only food is cheaper. But people are used to different life standards.
I'm so sick of hearing about this scratching thing, do people not have anything better to do than to complain? I have had my iPhone 5 for a couple of weeks now, bareback in my pocket, put it on surfaces and it still looks like new, not a single mark. If you bought a new car and scratched it against something would you complain to the manufacturer that they didn't apply the paint correctly? This world must also be full of uncoordinated people who lack basic motor skills. I have never dropped my phone and use it hours each day, had an iPhone since the 3G.
If you want to keep your phone in good condition take care of it and think before you do something and you will NOT have a problem even without a case. It's time for everyone to move on from this because I am sick of hearing about it!
If you want to keep your phone in good condition take care of it and think before you do something and you will NOT have a problem even without a case. It's time for everyone to move on from this because I am sick of hearing about it!
Anyone who thinks that the difference between retail sales price and the cost of producing an item is profit should really not ever start a business, and preferably not ever talk about business.
And the whole discussion started with quality control. Quality control is there to make sure that for every phone sold, only one needs to be built. If you read through this thread, many people are not happy with the quality of products, and as a result for every product sold, actually two or sometimes more have to be built if the quality is rubbish.
Foxconn doesn't have the cheapest labour by far. Go to India, Pakistan or Bangladesh, and check out the clothes industry there. That's where you have _cheap_ labour. Then look at places where European and US rubbish is shipped to, and where people are working to get useful scraps from that rubbish. That's where you have labour that is _less than cheap_. Most Foxconn workers come from some rural village, work at Foxconn for two years, saving 70% of their salary because they pay next to nothing for food and living quarters, and return home with lots of money.
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Lot's of America haters.
I feel sorry for you.
If it wasn't for the USA you would not have Apple products.
or windows, or, well you get the picture
I certainly agree with the workers, even after the small improvements made to their benefits/pay they are still modern day slaves and most other workers in other countries certainly would not accept these working condition.
Apple, the US just lost 16,000 manufacturing jobs. You have plenty of cash on hand, build a factory right here in the US. Sure the labor cost will be the highest of any other country but perhaps you can bring some lost quality and pride to this country. There are plenty of people that would take factory jobs, young and old. There are many people unemployed in this country and only those who have been unemployed for a long time really know what it's like.
-Mike
Apple, the US just lost 16,000 manufacturing jobs. You have plenty of cash on hand, build a factory right here in the US. Sure the labor cost will be the highest of any other country but perhaps you can bring some lost quality and pride to this country. There are plenty of people that would take factory jobs, young and old. There are many people unemployed in this country and only those who have been unemployed for a long time really know what it's like.
-Mike
Lot's of America haters.
I feel sorry for you.
If it wasn't for the USA you would not have Apple products.
or windows, or, well you get the picture
Windows wouldn't be a problem it sucks anyway and most people don't realize that windows is made in India, hence the poor reliability and useless error messages. I been supporting this crap all my life. Microsoft is one of the biggest companies which has been outsourcing everything from coding to support for many many years. They just continue to make crap that is a nightmare to support, I can't wait for the mess that windows8 is going to be, pretty from the front and very ugly from the back.
-Manny
Yeah - How much does housing cost when there's no electrical or plumbing and the floors are just dirt? And food costs - mouldy rice is cheap, cheap, cheap!
Their cost of living is so low, they don't know how lucky they really are!
This is total nonsense. The dorms at Foxconn are very nice facilities - much better than the village homes these kids left to take these jobs - and the food is nutritious and meals well balanced.
