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Foxconn's Profits Slide 31% as iPhone Sales Continue to Drop
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You forget that with Apple you are buying more than just the physical phone. I have a few friends who only want iPhones because when they have developed a fault in the past say the power button getting stuck, they just walk into an Apple store, show the problem and walk out with a working phone. They may be paying more, but if that gets them that kind of service they will pay more. If they had a HTC and it broke could they get it fixed in under an hour if they were out shopping?, or get a replacement there and then, do they have somewhere they can physically go for help? There is a value the vast quantity of Apple stores offer.
I really valued that service when i had the iPhone 5 and they had the battery replacement program, i was out shopping, just walked in asked if i could get the battery replaced under that recall, left them my phone came back an hour later new battery, all happy
. After sales service is something i try where possible to always factor in when buying anything , and Apple have one of the better ones out there.
I will never say Apple is doomed, but this company has slipped far out of Steve Jobs shadow and has not really proven that they can innovate on their own. Every year that goes by solidifies the fact that Steve Jobs was a true visionary and the success that Apple has had up to this point was sheerly of the force of momentum he left the company with. Apple's success in the last few years has nothing to do with Tim Cook; he executed Steve Jobs 5 year plan well, but has not inspired Apple to do anything more then tweak old designs.
It's hard to say if Jobs would have continued the pace of innovation Apple had in the early 2000's at this point in time, now that things like smartphones and tablets are commonplace, but it is obvious Tim Cook is not the leader Apple needs to continue kind of success Apple enjoyed under Jobs leadership.
I would say that if Apple's board of governors isn't considering replacing Tim Cook in 2017 then the whole company has firmly attached rose gold coloured glasses and will slide back to an also-ran company like they were in the 1990's.
The only problem is "who" out there is able to take over Apple, and don't say Jony Ives because he hasn't done anything fantastic for Apple in 5+ years; it is obvious there too that it was Jobs who inspired Ives to greatness in industrial design, but the most he allowed to fall out of Apple recently was an ugly tumor battery case, a bendy iPhone and an unhealthy fetish for thinner things.
It's hard to say if Jobs would have continued the pace of innovation Apple had in the early 2000's at this point in time, now that things like smartphones and tablets are commonplace, but it is obvious Tim Cook is not the leader Apple needs to continue kind of success Apple enjoyed under Jobs leadership.
I would say that if Apple's board of governors isn't considering replacing Tim Cook in 2017 then the whole company has firmly attached rose gold coloured glasses and will slide back to an also-ran company like they were in the 1990's.
The only problem is "who" out there is able to take over Apple, and don't say Jony Ives because he hasn't done anything fantastic for Apple in 5+ years; it is obvious there too that it was Jobs who inspired Ives to greatness in industrial design, but the most he allowed to fall out of Apple recently was an ugly tumor battery case, a bendy iPhone and an unhealthy fetish for thinner things.
You forget that with Apple you are buying more than just the physical phone. I have a few friends who only want iPhones because when they have developed a fault in the past say the power button getting stuck, they just walk into an Apple store, show the problem and walk out with a working phone. They may be paying more, but if that gets them that kind of service they will pay more. If they had a HTC and it broke could they get it fixed in under an hour if they were out shopping?, or get a replacement there and then, do they have somewhere they can physically go for help? There is a value the vast quantity of Apple stores offer.
I really valued that service when i had the iPhone 5 and they had the battery replacement program, i was out shopping, just walked in asked if i could get the battery replaced under that recall, left them my phone came back an hour later new battery, all happy
After sales service is something i try where possible to always factor in when buying anything , and Apple have one of the better ones out there.
It is true that after sale service is important.
Though now days people have multiple phone. If one breaks down, they will use back phone and send to repair. It really does not affect people that much.
I had Motorla phone need to be repaired, I just used Moto E for about 2 week when my Moto X went repair. Moto E still worked like wonder.
Wah, wah, wah.
Hello Foxconn,
The millions of iPhones orders will not continue forever.
Good you acquired Sharp and I am sure you are looking to get into other markets.
Right?
I think it's time to make another movie like
The Gods Must be crazy
but drop an iPhone .
Even the last pigmy will eventually have an iPhone (Probably 16GB)
Hello Foxconn,
The millions of iPhones orders will not continue forever.
Good you acquired Sharp and I am sure you are looking to get into other markets.
Right?
I think it's time to make another movie like
The Gods Must be crazy
but drop an iPhone .
Even the last pigmy will eventually have an iPhone (Probably 16GB)
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In conversation with other Android users.
The 5x is the ugly duckling of Nexus phones.
If Apple truly thinks chasing after the BIG PAYDAY from the rich will keep them afloat forever, then Apple is as gullible as the blind loyalists they cater to. The home run play or hero ball doesn't always work FTW. Apple needs to think of the little people and a way for more of them to be on this Apple ecosystem to create another halo effect. I know Apple is too stubborn to tarnish their image, so license iOS to other manufacturers like Microsoft did to WinMo and WP. Have a template of specs there for OEMs to follow.
Everyone from the common through rich folks will stop buying iPhones eventually or as frequently. Apple needs to focus on soil they haven't really planted themselves into. Being the most common in the United States isn't going to help Apple be #1 in profits forever. The U.S. has its own problems economically already with two fairly unpopular presidential candidates to deal with. Volume sales and a combination of little profits here and there. BIG PAYDAYS from North America and Europe isn't the real solution for Apple in long run.
This runs deeper than simply making iPhone 7 design look the same. The inevitable is people will just stop buying products like what millions did to Apple's idol, Sony. I used to worship Sony. Now when I see their products and the prices they ask for, I LOL. Sony is old news like some over-the-hill athlete and musician. I think so negatively about Sony's brand now. They are mostly a joke to me still worshipped by some of their loyalists thinking Sony will resurrect their prior success someday and it never happens. Apple might be next big joke for millions more before this decade finishes...
Everyone from the common through rich folks will stop buying iPhones eventually or as frequently. Apple needs to focus on soil they haven't really planted themselves into. Being the most common in the United States isn't going to help Apple be #1 in profits forever. The U.S. has its own problems economically already with two fairly unpopular presidential candidates to deal with. Volume sales and a combination of little profits here and there. BIG PAYDAYS from North America and Europe isn't the real solution for Apple in long run.
This runs deeper than simply making iPhone 7 design look the same. The inevitable is people will just stop buying products like what millions did to Apple's idol, Sony. I used to worship Sony. Now when I see their products and the prices they ask for, I LOL. Sony is old news like some over-the-hill athlete and musician. I think so negatively about Sony's brand now. They are mostly a joke to me still worshipped by some of their loyalists thinking Sony will resurrect their prior success someday and it never happens. Apple might be next big joke for millions more before this decade finishes...
Any downside should be already baked in.
Are you anticipating being more disappointed than you already expect to be? Based on what? And if you can answer that, tell us why you're more optimistic NOW about the iPhone 7 now than you think you will be after it is released.
Is this really news? Apple has already reported lagging iDevice sales. Obviously there is a direct correlation. Now if Foxconn had a poor quarter and iDevices were selling like it was 2010 that would be news.
Not that I'm disagreeing, but there's also the issue of keeping the core excited. There are a lot of devoted Apple fans out there, a small portion of whom are represented here. The repeat base is important to the continued success of the company. They are the sales that Apple has to count on in those few instances where things are 'popping' in terms of new products. If you extend too much time with lackluster offerings, even those committed customers are going to lose their zeal for the company and begin to look elsewhere. If you lose even your core, then you've got pretty significant problems.
What I see here at MR (including in myself) is an increasing apathy towards Apple because an ongoing lack of innovation. I think many people are starting to get the sense the Apple keeps throwing a few tech bread crumbs to the birds just to keep them pecking along, but not much that is really substantial. I'm ready for some worms. I'm ready for something significant in the iPhone, and I'm REALLY ready for some significant steps forward in the computer realm.
Apple needs to get out of politics and get back to being a select company that chooses a few things to do, and then find a way to do them better than anyone else. Apple has always been criticized, but it used to be that the criticism was based on how Apple was doing stuff that no one could envision. Now the criticism seems to be that Apple doesn't seem to have much vision aside from some car which 1) is probably going to be years until anything is actually in consumer's hands, and 2) will probably be plagued with so many development and government oversight issues it will be hard to break into an already oversaturated auto market.
It's time for Apple to show that they care about more than political activism and squeezing the last penny out of their loyal customer base. I'm ready to see some actually excitement at the opportunity to innovate the world. I don't sense that now.
I don't agree with all of it, but it is clear that visionaries are difficult to come by.
Tim is a money man and good at that, but he cannot step into a visionary role. Even him making the presentations feels forced.
We do not know whether Apple has been looking for the next "Apple God", but visionaries like to do their own thing without corporate (or any) structure.
They are by nature not easy to work with and real pissers and at times inhuman, casting bodies left and right.
Then there is the little issue of not being able to pull a rabbit out of a hat every 2 seconds.
As technologies emerge more things become possible, BUT as soon as you explore something, i.e. a second person knows about it , the race is on.
And, we know Apple doesn't race!
The girl in the far right looks like iPhone Girl from 2008!
Nice to see her again after eight years.
Are you making a joke?
"Though analysts have blamed the decline on lower iPhone demand and a consequent decrease in orders, the company disagrees. Foxconn chairman Terry Gou linked the situation to a declining PC market, and claimed the company's mobile phone assembly business is stable."
They're talking about profits decline. Not products decline. You just can't stand critic comments about any of Apple. If Apple was this great, how come there is such negativity lately from even diehard Apple fans like myself?
If Apple ever got another visionary at the helm, core users would be jumping ship in droves. Another visionary would doubtless take Apple in new and scary directions; places Steve Jobs would NEVER go. The new Apple wouldn't be Steve Jobs' Apple.
Because people buy into Apple for the ecosystem... it is not really about the hardware.
A lot of people don't give a flying **** about the OS on their phone. It's a ****ing phone, not a religion.. oh wait...
Some are so blinded by
that everything that ships without it is rubbish. They don't even realize they have a Samsung theirselves because it has an on it
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Yeah, but that is not something new! Apple always have had more expensive products compare to others who offer same (bit more, bit less) and people have been fine with it and Apple have been doing fine. I am fine with it because I prefer iOS instead of the 2 alternative platforms. But iPhone 7 (based on the rumors) is not convincing me to buy it, instead I will stick with 6s. I would probably considered iP7 if it had been redesigned, improved display, less bezels and other stuff. That does not mean I will get Nexus or any other Android phones. Simply means I will wait till 2017 for the next version. And I think I am not the only one who feels this way.
There is almost no difference in the Android of today or iOS. People who still think that Android is bad or crappy don't life in reality. Today it's a matter of preference. Android has some better things, so does iOS. Overall they're both good OS-es.