France and Germany Prepare Crackdown on Tax Loopholes With Tech Companies Like Apple in Sights

[s2mikey]

I'm not talking about refugees. We need to make a distinction there or more to the point, Berlin needs to make a clear distinction there and deal with that appropriately and fairly. A system overburdened with people who are not legitimate refugees will have negative consequences for legitimate refugees who will begin to see their decision to come to Germany as a mistake, perhaps one of the reasons a good number of Syrians are now in France trying to get to the UK, after spending a lot of downtime in crowded refugee centers in Germany. Most of them don't have family in the UK, they're just realizing Germany is overburdened and perhaps more to the point, overrated.

If a bunch of Syrian refugees find your country "over-rated" then perhaps thats a blessing in disguise? I mean... how do germans benefit from a huge influx of these refugees, some of which will no doubt have terror conections? Its like hearing that a bunch of immigrants with shady backgrounds decided NOT to come to the USA. Id be jumping for joy. Its like, goodbye then!

 

[dampfnudel]

If a bunch of Syrian refugees find your country "over-rated" then perhaps thats a blessing in disguise? I mean... how do germans benefit from a huge influx of these refugees, some of which will no doubt have terror conections? Its like hearing that a bunch of immigrants with shady backgrounds decided NOT to come to the USA. Id be jumping for joy. Its like, goodbye then!

And if they give up on trying to get into the U.K.? Given a choice between crowded French refugee centers or living on the streets of Paris, Germany could once again become "the last chance" saloon for them, only this time they'll most likely be more frustrated than when they left.

 

[verpeiler]

If a bunch of Syrian refugees find your country "over-rated" then perhaps thats a blessing in disguise? I mean... how do germans benefit from a huge influx of these refugees, some of which will no doubt have terror conections? Its like hearing that a bunch of immigrants with shady backgrounds decided NOT to come to the USA. Id be jumping for joy. Its like, goodbye then!

99,99% of them are not terrorists... and why do people always fear terrorism? That's about the least probable way to die; you rather get hit by a bus.

Just drop your Fox-News-F.U.D. mindset and live a happy life.

@dampfnudel: There are NO crowded refugee centres anymore, that was a thing 2 years ago. In fact, most of the got dismantled because just a few refugees are coming anymore. Mainly because of our immoral deal with turkey. Maybe your relatives are some kind of r

 

[jkcerda]

liberal leaning CO does NOT pay the right taxes? no way........

 

[dampfnudel]

99,99% of them are not terrorists... and why do people always fear terrorism? That's about the least probable way to die; you rather get hit by a bus.

Just drop your Fox-News-F.U.D. mindset and live a happy life.

@dampfnudel: There are NO crowded refugee centres anymore, that was a thing 2 years ago. In fact, most of the got dismantled because just a few refugees are coming anymore. Mainly because of our immoral deal with turkey. Maybe your relatives are some kind of r

Well, maybe a couple of them are a little prejudiced/r after their daughter and her friend were groped by a group of migrants at a festival recently. That could be.

 

[verpeiler]

Well, maybe a couple of them are a little prejudiced/r after their daughter and her friend were groped by a group of migrants at a festival recently. That could be.

Right, because that never happens with people from your own country.

 

[dampfnudel]

Right, because that never happens with people from your own country.

A trend is a trend, and in this case a negative one that needs to be addressed by members of the community. I'm sure you would agree.

 

[verpeiler]

A trend is a trend, and in this case a negative one that needs to be addressed by members of the community. I'm sure you would agree.

No. We got the jurisdiction for that.
And there is no trend.

 

[dampfnudel]

No. We got the jurisdiction for that.
And there is no trend.

Okay, there's no trend and it's probably easy to be dismissive until it happens to you or someone close to you, unless you would just consider it normal happenstance and move on with any psychological scars in tow. Anyway, it's time to move on from this conversation.

 

[Cox Orange]

What European country has developed tech products that have been by Apple?

This is a money grab and those two countries should worry about their policies that have led to terrorism.

And speaking of European tech products by Apple (what is that even supposed to mean?) there is a lot of European technology in Apple products.

Software as well. Mp3 and h.264 was developed at Fraunhofer institute in Germany. Unfortunately German Universities and German enterprises in general are quiet "sloppy" with securing royalties for their intellectual property.
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Okay, there's no trend and it's probably easy to be dismissive until it happens to you or someone close to you, unless you would just consider it normal happenstance and move on with any psychological scars in tow. Anyway, it's time to move on from this conversation.

I heard a police officier say on TV, that at the October fest every year there are about 10 cases of reported rape (by Germans), but that doesn't make it into the news. Don't know, if this is true, but I find in interesting, because it leads one to think about what we probably don't fear, becaue we don't hear it in the news.

The new years eve groping was done by north african immigrants that came two years before the big influx of 2015 (when Merkel "welcomed" them, as people phrase it). They were also coming from neighbouring countries of Germany as well.

In the crime statistics Syrians are impressively underrepresented (guess they have something to loose, why north african illegals know, that they will be send back anyway).

People from the balkan states are a major and growing problem. They were active before the refugees came and utilized that there are no boarders in the EU. But their activity has increased lately. They are more "into" robbery/burglary than rape, though.

Off topic end for me. Sorry, for going off topic.

 

[dampfnudel]

Software as well. Mp3 and h.264 was developed at Fraunhofer institute in Germany. Unfortunately German Universities and German enterprises in general are quiet "sloppy" with securing royalties for their intellectual property.
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I heard a police officier say on TV, that at the October fest every year there are about 10 cases of reported rape (by Germans), but that doesn't make it into the news. Don't know, if this is true, but I find in interesting, because it leads one to think about what we probably don't fear, becaue we don't hear it in the news.

The new years eve groping was done by north african immigrants that came two years before the big influx of 2015 (when Merkel "welcomed" them, as people phrase it). They were also coming from neighbouring countries of Germany as well.

In the crime statistics Syrians are impressively underrepresented (guess they have something to loose, why north african illegals know, that they will be send back anyway).

People from the balkan states are a major and growing problem. They were active before the refugees came and utilized that there are no boarders in the EU. But their activity has increased lately. They are more "into" robbery/burglary than rape, though.

Off topic end for me. Sorry, for going off topic.

Germany has been a crossroads for criminals for years. Often when burglary perpetrators are caught, they're from Eastern Europe or the balkans. I watched a ZDF special recently on how gangs in the Netherlands are now robbing ATMs right across the border in Germany because most ATMs in the Netherlands now use a dye pack that will contaminate the money. Most ATMs in Germany at the moment don't, but I expect that to change. It's a big issue around the Frankfurt area as well, based on the dozen or so news stories I've read in local news websites as well as HR Fernsehen, the local Frankfurt TV news station. It causes a lot of damage, often wakes people up early in the morning who might be endangered themselves if they live in close proximity like in the apartment/flat above.

Train stations are a place to be very vigilant in Germany, given the amount of personal property that gets stolen. Even with all the issues you currently have there, Germany is still a relatively safe place to visit and has a lot to offer. You just need to be street smart when you're there. Anyway, sorry to stray off topic myself, this will be my last comment on this.

 

[miniyou64]

Great idea. Of course, if you don't have money this doesn't work. If you resent government so much, then please leave civilisation so the rest of us don't have to hear antisocial selfish short-sighted whining. BTW - this internet you're using was invented and developed though government funded work...

I would have more money if the government would stop stealing it to waste it. I have an idea. You like paying so much, you can pay for me too.

 

[charlituna]

Finding loopholes is not tax evasion.

All as the countries have to do is change their tax laws to eliminate loopholes.

that's basically what they are doing

 

[noisycats]

Back to the original post, I applaud countries for looking at this issue. I place no blame on companies, private or public, using the laws to their advantage.

If governments don't like what is happening regarding tax policies...change the tax laws.

Done. Next issue?

 

[VulchR]

I would have more money if the government would stop stealing it to waste it. I have an idea. You like paying so much, you can pay for me too.

I am not more happy with government waste than you are. However, I also believe that the way taxes are currently legislated give the rich a free ride. If you want to complain about jobless unproductive people whom you, and society as a whole, support, then I suggest you consider the idle rich living off of dividends and stock portfolios. Hence the need to tax corporations like Apple more fairly.