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Good. And it won't be just the EU that wants US companies out.
Remember the USA is only about 4% of the worlds population.
And you are NOT the greatest country on earth.
We may not be the greatest country on earth, certainly room for debate. On the other hand we've spent a boatload of blood and treasure keeping you free.
 
We may not be the greatest country on earth, certainly room for debate. On the other hand we've spent a boatload of blood and treasure keeping you free.
You've spent a moderate amount of blood (and lots of other people's blood) to further your own interests and take hegemonic control over financial and other institutions (swift), spying on "allies" (ecehelon, xkeyscore), wreaking havoc in the Middle East causing a refugee crisis in Europe, etc. That's not freedom, but subordination.

Thank you for the umpteenth time for saving us in WWII. But henceforth, Europe will resume its own path, and will no longer align with your ambitions for world dominance and "exceptionalism". You are no longer the "leader" of the "free world" or of anything, but a banana republic in free fall, plagued by ethnic violence and now even a full-fledged coup d'état, paralyzed by the corona pandemic and a budget deficit that will spell the end of America as we have known it.
 
who defines "harmful and inappropriate content" though? Sounds like China or Turkey light. Everyone who does not meet the "standards" of the governments agenda is suddenly a terrorist. Very dangerous
Currently, Facebook, Google et al decide that 18th century paintings of moderatly clad women or a Janet nipple are "harmful" (to christian family values), while violence and hate speech pass without a hitch. Your mileage will typically vary with country, so in Europe it will be reversed.

These are the "good" companies that used to promise free speech when the internet was a new kid on the bloc, but have since become tools of governments. Because of greed.
 
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See I think thats were I draw the line because Alex Jones and Donald Trump were sending people to commit violent acts against others in real life. The other angle is that anyone else who is not famous wouldve been censored without a second thought for saying many of the things they said.

Tech companies were already censoring using their algorithms to display the approved content they wanted you to see.
I don't want to turn this into something off-topic but if you could provide a tweet/quote/video of Trump calling for violence I'd love to hear/see it. If Donald Trump called for violence then it shouldn't be hard to show evidence of such? Otherwise it's nothing more than a baseless partisan accusation.

There are entire pages dedicated to showing the hypocrisy of Twitter's enforcement. Bluecheckmark watch catalogues thousands of left wing journalists and activists openly calling for things like 'kill all white men' that never receive any enforcement.

Personally I ditched Twitter long ago, it's a dull echo chamber that censors any wrong think. Much prefer free speech platforms like gab where all opinions are welcome, not just Silicon Valley ones.

FYI I'm not American and have never voted in a US election.

To keep this more on topic, big tech social media platforms really need to decide whether they are a platform or a publisher, as right now many are behaving as publishers while under the protections of a platform. Perhaps France would be better doing this than whatever non-sense they've cooked up.
 
You are deeply disturbed. China doesn't kill anyone. They wiped out the epidemic at an early stage, with less than 5000 deaths in total. That is a FIVE HUNDRED times lower toll than that of the US, counted per capita.

And that without even knowing what they were up against. China had to find out as they went, and when they were done, they left the US and the world a complete playbook on how to deal with the virus.

Did the US listen? No, they didn't. They played it down, and weighed it against the immediate economical damage (ignoring or not understanding the long-term damage). The virus would magically go away come April, and if not you cold always gulp down some bleach.

That negligence is tantamount to genocide. A REAL genocide, as opposed to putting some poor radilized muslims in school…

If you believe the CCP's official numbers are even close to realistic then I have a bridge to sell you. 5000 dead? Maybe if they were counting a single tower block in Wuhan, even MI6 were saying how unrealistic the numbers were. Both the former head of MI6 and the director for health in Norway have gone on record saying they believe it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology - a lab that was doing research on coronaviruses.

It's easy to beat a virus if you control the media and claim to have beaten it. You sound like a CCP puppet account, a real genocide? Perhaps one directly caused by the CCP's unacceptable poor standards for running the Wuhan Institute of Virology which has had containment leaks recorded in its past. The US death rate is in line with most large Western countries, are they all committing genocide?

I find it odd you blame the US, when it is 100% China's fault this virus was unleashed on the world. At best this was a result of disgusting and unsanitary animal markets/food preparation. At worst a modified virus from the WHoV. Either way, China lied and people died.

It was China that pressured their puppet Tedros to ignore information coming out of Taiwan regarding the virus, it was China that told The WHO to say there was no human to human transmission of the virus when they knew it was not true. You can make stuff up all day but it's pretty clear where the blame lies.
 
Precisely. America was built on violence. China was built on culture and civilization.
China has had millennia of bloodshed and violence. Their crowning achievements are paper money and fireworks. Their contribution to the development of civilization is hugely overrated and have never been more than a large regional player.

The US is the most technologically advanced and wealthy country in the history of the Earth.
The UK built the greatest empire the world has ever seen and pioneered huge numbers of scientific and technological break throughs.
China, regional power with a couple of minor technological innovations. It was neither the richest, most advanced, nor most powerful nation in history.
 
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If you believe the CCP's official numbers are even close to realistic then I have a bridge to sell you. 5000 dead? Maybe if they were counting a single tower block in Wuhan, even MI6 were saying how unrealistic the numbers were. Both the former head of MI6 and the director for health in Norway have gone on record saying they believe it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology - a lab that was doing research on coronaviruses.

It's easy to beat a virus if you control the media and claim to have beaten it. You sound like a CCP puppet account, a real genocide? Perhaps one directly caused by the CCP's unacceptable poor standards for running the Wuhan Institute of Virology which has had containment leaks recorded in its past. The US death rate is in line with most large Western countries, are they all committing genocide?

I find it odd you blame the US, when it is 100% China's fault this virus was unleashed on the world. At best this was a result of disgusting and unsanitary animal markets/food preparation. At worst a modified virus from the WHoV. Either way, China lied and people died.

It was China that pressured their puppet Tedros to ignore information coming out of Taiwan regarding the virus, it was China that told The WHO to say there was no human to human transmission of the virus when they knew it was not true. You can make stuff up all day but it's pretty clear where the blame lies.
Well, yeah, that is the thing: bat crazy Americans believing in their fave conspiracy theories (Qanon, the lab hypothesis), refusing to take in reality and the sound evaluation from more respectable scientists. This is the reason why America is failing, not being able to see the world as it is.

Yeah, there is no reason at all to not trust the numbers coming from China (3 dead per million). You simply can't hide deaths in such an information dense society. Furthermore, you can take a look at countries in China's neighborhood, like Taiwan (0.4 dead per million), Vietnam (0.4), Mongolia (0.6) Thailand (1), Singapore (5), and even Korea (30), all showing similar outcomes and all using similar methods. The US? 1500 dead per million.

It is fairly obvious that East Asia, and also Australia (35) and New Zealand (5), were and are doing things differently. There is no reason the US couldn't have done the same. They had the playbook, but chose to ignore it. They had the intel, from late December and onward, but chose to ignore it. By the time Wuhan was put in lockdown on Jan 23, there was one (1) person infected in the US. The China epidemic was since long contained before the pandemic broke out.

There was NO information coming out from Taiwan regarding the virus, it was merely a question. That is a long standing myth that has been debunked over and over again, but is nevertheless propagated by the Trump idiots and their likes. Taiwan had NO other information than China, and China didn't really know what they were up against until early January, when they sequenced the genome and started seeing exponential growth beyond control. That's when they put Wuhan and Hubei in lockdown.

The US (and Europe) had more than a month to prepare, but did absolutely nothing. They chose to believe it would be like SARS in 2003, which stayed local. They couldn't fathom the scenes from Wuhan, they didn't realize the implications coming from the exponential growth seen – although US intel actually did, as they warned Trump of a pandemic as early as Jan 27. As we know, he chose to ignore it, and there you are now.

You can keep on pointing fingers as much as you want, but it is not going to help you. You are going to have to put away the political crap and deal with the situation as it is, if you want to get out of the mess. And if you don't, well… then you are just going to suffer even more. All while China and East Asia push through with positive growth and having the situation under control since long. Good riddance.
 
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Precisely. America was built on violence. China was built on culture and civilization.
Yeah yeah, we get it, you hate America. However, defending a country like China that's powered by a dystopian surveillance state run by totalitarian sub-humans is hardly a fight you should take on.
 
China has had millennia of bloodshed and violence. Their crowning achievements are paper money and fireworks. Their contribution to the development of civilization is hugely overrated and have never been more than a large regional player.

The US is the most technologically advanced and wealthy country in the history of the Earth.
The UK built the greatest empire the world has ever seen and pioneered huge numbers of scientific and technological break throughs.
China, regional power with a couple of minor technological innovations. It was neither the richest, most advanced, nor most powerful nation in history.
The US is certainly the most technologically advanced nation on earth now, after having copied Europe, but it is nevertheless a parenthesis in history, and also an anomaly. China and India have been the richest and most powerful nations for millennia, a pattern that broke when the industrial revolution broke out and European powers could increase the output beyond one person, and when they subjugated, colonized and humiliated people all over the world.

The US will not stay the most advanced, nor the richest, but will be surpassed by China when the anomly is being corrected. That is what we are seeing now, and the numbers speak for themselves. There is also nothing you can do about it, even if you are trying to thwart China's growth by reckless protectionism, sanctions and what have you not thereby negating everything that you say you stand for…


 
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Yeah yeah, we get it, you hate America. However, defending a country like China that's powered by a dystopian surveillance state run by totalitarian sub-humans is hardly a fight you should take on.
Except that China isn't that. And I also don't hate America. What I do hate is the hypocrisy coming from today's America, the double standards on everything, the "exceptionalism" meaning that America is above the rules they set themselves.

As for China, the only thing I am defending is its right to choose its own path, without being forced to comply with your monolithic world view. It is America that is totalitarian, whereas China doesn't demand that other countries follow their political model.
 
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Except that China isn't that. And I also don't hate America. What I do hate is the hypocrisy coming from today's America, the double standards on everything, the "exceptionalism" meaning that America is above the rules they set themselves.

As for China, the only thing I am defending is its right to choose its own path, without being forced to comply with your monolithic world view. It is America that is totalitarian, whereas China doesn't demand that other countries follow their political model.
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See I think thats were I draw the line because Alex Jones and Donald Trump were sending people to commit violent acts against others in real life. The other angle is that anyone else who is not famous wouldve been censored without a second thought for saying many of the things they said.

Tech companies were already censoring using their algorithms to display the approved content they wanted you to see.
You really believe that ?? Keep listening to the communists and Communist News Network.
 
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As for China, the only thing I am defending is its right to choose its own path, without being forced to comply with your monolithic world view.
What absolute 🐃💩; China is the worlds largest abuser of human rights, even of their own people, all the way from East Turkestan and Tibet etc to Hong Kong (where they just stopped recognising some people's citizenships and/or passports, as well as are in the process of making it legal to prevent anyone from leaving for any reason), not to mention the abuse/problems they are current causing in Africa. And then there's their financial bullying their way into taking control of the land following the new silk road.

And I could go on and on and on.
 
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What absolute 🐃💩; China is the worlds largest abuser of human rights, even of their own people, all the way from East Turkestan and Tibet etc to Hong Kong (where they just stopped recognising some people's citizenships and/or passports, as well as are in the process of making it legal to prevent anyone from leaving for any reason), not to mention the abuse/problems they are current causing in Africa. And then there's their financial bullying their way into taking control of the land following the new silk road.

And I could go on and on and on.
That is a view that has been projected on you by media and political forces. It doesn't mean that it is the truth, and it also doesn't mean that it is the only projection possible. If it were true, the hundreds of millions of Chinese who go abroad for work and tourism every year would simply not return to this dystopian surveillance state. Yet they do.

There is no such thing as "East Turkestan", and never has been. It is a geopolitical scheme from the cold war, that somehow lives on to this day. China has controlled the Tarim Basin (Xinjiang) since the days of Tang, and it is not native to the Uighurs living there today. The current hoopla in the region has to do with muslim radicalization since the early 80s, when Uighurs took pilgrimage to neighboring Afghanistan and Iran (you know the situation there first-hand).

It is a matter of uprooting environments in which such radicalization takes place, offering education and training to people who are off-grid, combatting poverty. It is not like Abu Ghraib or Guantanmo that you guys operated, but a far more civilized way of taking care of a security problem (there is no longer terror attacks in China). But OK, teaching Mandarin is now the same as "genocide" in American rhetoric, and I guess it says more about you than others. It's not even geopolitics anymore, it's just a bad joke.

As for Hong Kong, China has decided to no longer recognize BNO passports, since the UK decided to intervene in internal matters offering a path to citizenship issuing such passports to people who are not their subjetcs anymore – a breach of the agreement, and a breach of international law. Anyone in Hong Kong can leave whenever they wish, but they can't return with a BNO passport. They need to choose if they want to be Chinese or British or something else, but they can't be both.

And why should they? If they really hate Hong Kong and China, why not leave for good, making much less money in Britain being indentured servants for six years before getting their citizenship. Why doesn't the UK offer immediate citizenship if they are serious about it, and why didn't they offer it before the handover in 1997? Why weren't the subjets of Britain in Hong Kong British citizens during the fine democratic times when the governor was appointed by 10 Downing Street rathar than elected by the people and the business as today?

As for Africa, you can't really be serious? After hundreds of years of slavery and colonization by European powers and America, China is coming on stage offering experise, know-how and free trade, building up the countries in Africa from scratch with massive infrastructure projects, making Africa boom. Sheesh.
 
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Tell that to the "Hong Kong 12"; that tried to leave HK/China by taking a speedboat to Taiwan, which got them disappeared into China (not Hong Kong!) accused of crimes against "national security".

Also… https://hongkongfp.com/2021/02/13/i...-law-that-could-bar-anyone-from-leaving-city/
Most of the people on the boat were considered fugitives, as they were released on bail. Me wonders what would happen if American fugitives set off for Cuba in a speedboat… always this double standard.

Anyone who is not a criminal or a suspect is certainly free to leave through the common means of transportation at the designated gateways.

And I really hope that everyone of the black clad terrorizers do seize the chance of becoming subjects of the Queen and Mr. Trudeleau in Canada, as that would leave some room and breathing space for the city, who would welcome hard working talents from neighboring Shenzhen and Dongguan, restoring (復) its former glory (光).
 
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Most of the people on the boat were considered fugitives, as they were released on bail. Me wonders what would happen if American fugitives set off for Cuba in a speedboat… always this double standard.

Anyone who is not a criminal or a suspect is certainly free to leave through the common means of transportation at the designated gateways.

And I really hope that everyone of the black clad terrorizers do seize the chance of becoming subjects of the Queen and Mr. Trudeleau in Canada, as that would leave some room and breathing space for the city, who would welcome hard working talents from neighboring Shenzhen and Dongguan, restoring (復) its former glory (光).
Of course, the traditional CCP way (copied from the USSR) for getting an area to fall in line with the political agenda of the emperor leader; suppressing the local culture (like destroying signs with the local written language, as well as more and more forcing the people to use mandarin and simplified characters), and practically speaking importing loyal CCP followers to make up a greater and greater part of the local population.

Edit: More Uighur-specific, but interesting from a point of view of the CCP tactics: https://uhrp.org/sites/default/files/UHRP-Kashgar-Coerced-Report-06_03_20_1.pdf
 
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Of course, the traditional CCP way (copied from the USSR) for getting an area to fall in line with the political agenda of the emperor leader; suppressing the local culture (like destroying signs with the local written language, as well as more and more forcing the people to use mandarin and simplified characters), and practically speaking importing loyal CCP followers to make up a greater and greater part of the local population.

Edit: More Uighur-specific, but interesting from a point of view of the CCP tactics: https://uhrp.org/sites/default/files/UHRP-Kashgar-Coerced-Report-06_03_20_1.pdf
As always, it is important to scrutinize people who make these claims, and who is funding them and for what purpose. Turns out that UHRP is one of the usual NED funded ($1,244,698) tools of the US Congress to wield geopolitical force to adversaries. Other interests groups have other agendas, and you are the useful idiot inbetween believing all the crap and getting involved in something far away that doesn't concern you a bit.

Aren't there some more nearby projects you can involve yourself in, like helping homeless Americans or bettering the lives of the Apache on the reservations?


 
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Aren't there some more nearby projects you can involve yourself in, like helping homeless Americans or bettering the lives of the Apache on the reservations?
No, flying to North America isn't "nearby". And I not only have more friends within CCP-claimed territory, but the CCP is actually a greater threat doing more damage to more people rn.
 
No, flying to North America isn't "nearby". And I not only have more friends within CCP-claimed territory, but the CCP is actually a greater threat doing more damage to more people rn.
No Chinese dynasty (or foreign entity for that matters) has ever bettered the lives for so many people in such a short time as the Confucian party of China.

The US, on the other hand…

 


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France is also pushing for other changes to the Digital Services Act that would allow it to "include other types of problematic content," including "harmful content and disinformation," broadening the parameters of the "illegal content" that the Digital Services Act is proposing to control.
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Article Link: France Pushes to Widen EU Regulations on Big Tech Companies
Mr. France, is an example of disinformation, "the world is flat"? Please elaborate.
 
This user smacks of Chinese misinformation. Just put them on Ignore, that’s what I’d suggest.
Yeah, it's very weird/uncomfortable that MR allows an over the top overly obvious wǔmáo to just keep going like this; even under the flag of it being a "political" subject that's a bit much.
 
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Yeah, it's very weird/uncomfortable that MR allows an over the top overly obvious wǔmáo to just keep going like this; even under the flag of it being a "political" subject that's a bit much.
It’s my first run in with the sort, but I’ve had casual encounters with enough white and black supremacists that I recognize plenty of the arguments. It’s really amusing to me to see how similar ethno-nationalist arguments are across different ethnicities. White supremacists, black supremacists, and asian supremacists are really all the same.
 
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