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It's perfectly acceptable for that child to steal the apple (although I can't imagine that the owner of that apple wouldn't have given it to the child anyway) but it's an extreme stretch that iPodless child is entitled to stealing an iPod.
 
However, he didn't want to get it anymore and canceled the order.

I just spoke to her and she said her roommate did the same thing but her mom told her to cancel the order for personal reasons, however, she RECEIVED the I TOUCH...8Gig...the refund/money has already been back to the account and the itouch is sealed in box with her...so what to do now?

isn't anyone seeing this!! how did his friends magically change genders?😕😕
 
I dont think that a debate about the validity of moral justification in regaurds to stealing is needed here....

The point is, it is NEVER

EVER

EVER

right to STEAL

,,,

when it is from apple!

LOL... dont steal from our beloved company. We must take care of it.
 
I dont think that a debate about the validity of moral justification in regaurds to stealing is needed here....

The point is, it is NEVER

EVER

EVER

right to STEAL

,,,

when it is from apple!

LOL... dont steal from our beloved company. We must take care of it.

too many of us here own stock in Apple and aren't going to give advice on how to steal from us 😀
 
Originally Posted by jpmittins
Because taking one piece of electronics from a faceless corporation isn't really stealing, it's more like fighting the man. Plus, who doesn't want free stuff?
I bet your employer would love to hear your opinion on this subject as well.
That is one way to look at that, though I think that will hold as much water as noodle strainer in court.
 
I bet your employer would love to hear your opinion on this subject as well.

I'm not employed; however, when my sister worked at Wawa, everyone there stole stuff, along with anyone who works at the local pharmacy. Not that it's right, though. Many of the thefts I think are committed as acts of defiance.

Your example wouldn't happen to be a starving child stealing an apple would it? 🙄

No. When my grandma died June 07, the will said my uncle got all of the possessions in the house while my mom got the house. They both agreed this was stupid, as my uncle lived alone and had no need for a car (revoked license) or any of the other useless stuff from the 40's. They way I see it, that is stealing, since it was against the will. However, when my uncle died less than a year later, my family was stuck cleaning out his apartment. We took quite a lot of stuff, including money that was in the apartment. Since his will was never found, I too see that as stealing, for he may not have left us everything. However, no one made any attempt to file claims against us, and no one ever will because it's reasonable and acceptable stealing.

It's perfectly acceptable for that child to steal the apple (although I can't imagine that the owner of that apple wouldn't have given it to the child anyway) but it's an extreme stretch that iPodless child is entitled to stealing an iPod.

Now when did I ever say that? I said that if circumstances permitted, the person may as well keep it. If not, he should give it back.

That is one way to look at that, though I think that will hold as much water as noodle strainer in court.

Once again, I said that mostly as a joke. By the way, does a noodle strainer in court hold less water than one out of court? 😉 What is that called, a dangling participle? (funniest grammar term ever)
 
neither of those examples were stealing (unless your uncle had children, then you stole from them)

your grandma willed those things to your uncle, you all agreed that he shouldn't have them. Thus he gave them to you.
 
What you are doing is fraud. It's illegal. Your getting something you didn't pay for. Illegal.

You really should come clean and send it back to apple. It's the legal thing to do, and the RIGHT thing to do.

Are you honestly going to be able to use that iPod touch without feeling bad?
 
neither of those examples were stealing (unless your uncle had children, then you stole from them)

The point is, I view them as stealing; it's just how I look at things. Trying to find a loophole to get something for free isn't. I reiterate; if the OP can find a way to get the iPod Touch legally, then by all means do it. If there is no legal way, then just return it.
 
Will Steve Jobs himself be aware that YOU stole $300 from his company? No. Nonetheless, Apple is out $300 worth of product that they otherwise would have been able to sell. It's a drop in the 18 billion dollar ocean, but it's still stealing. Big companies used to be little companies, and both deserve the same amount of respect.

The respectful thing to do is to return it. Apple would not steal from you, you should not steal from Apple.
 
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