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Isn't it weird that after 90 days, some people have phoned Apple and have been charged $50+ dollars for it? They don't understand it, I don't understand it, nobody really understands it. How are people supposed to get help from their 1 year warranty if they can't phone in to ask? Of course, lots of people don't get charged, but its still a pain to hear someone ask you if you would like to agree to pay their service charge so that they can help with your warranty!. I've never had this problem, but I got Applecare, so....
 
James L said:
Just to reiterate what the others have said, a dozen or more (say twenty?) does not constitute a major problem. Apple sells 2 - 3 million computers per year.
Remember, this is MacRumors, not [Everyone that has a DOA iMac post about it in this forum]Rumors. That means, if there are 12 people that post about the problem here, then very likely there are many others that have the same problem but didn't post about it here. And whether or not the problem is "major" is irrelevant. It's a matter of whether or not Apple's product is faulty.
 
King Cobra said:
Remember, this is MacRumors, not [Everyone that has a DOA iMac post about it in this forum]Rumors. That means, if there are 12 people that post about the problem here, then very likely there are many others that have the same problem but didn't post about it here. And whether or not the problem is "major" is irrelevant. It's a matter of whether or not Apple's product is faulty.
Correct. Like I said, just scanning the first page of the Apple iMAC LCD Display forum will get you several threads on the issue. Apple has X percentage of customers, Y percentage of which own an iMac, Z percentage of which have had a problem, XX percentage have had this specific problem, only XY percentage post on the Internet about it. When you drill down to that level, even a dozen people within the past 30 days on a single Internet message board is a notable amount, IMO.
 
Well, here's the update once the lines opened for the day. Short version: return iMac and full refund.

Long version: Called Apple Computer Sales Support (1-800-676-2775) first and spoke with an English-speaking rep. He was very helpful but couldn't do anything until the unit was certified as DOA. This is kinda strange since the documentation I have in front of me states: "If you feel your expectations have not been met, believe the product is defective, or DOA please call..." Why call them if they can't do anything? (Minor quibble.)

Anyway, transferred to tech support. Get another agent w/ a heavy accent, making communication a bit slow. After reading the notes and describing the problem again -- and updating him on the fact that the display will not come up at all now (true) -- he agrees that the Hardware Test Disc will tell / do nothing. After about 20 minutes and a checking with other techs he agrees that the unit is likely DOA. For a brief period he tries to sell me that since the display came up ONCE out of the box the unit was not, technically, "DOA." I got a little snippy at that point. We cleared the memory with the "3 ding" process.

Transferred to another tech (level 2?) who verified everything thus far and qualified the unit as DOA. Tech told me that I could not get a refund, only a replacement or a repair. At this point I just wanted the unit qualified as DOA; fight the other battle later.

Transferred back to Apple Computer Sales Support and my fourth agent this call. By far the best thus far. The agent quickly wanted to know where to send my replacement and they would pick up the unit free-of-charge. I explained that I was a little disappointed that I couldn't get a refund. Without missing a skip she said she could easily do a refund if I liked. She briefly extolled the virtues of Apple and how this was an unfortunate -- and unlikely -- problem but they'd take care of me. Why was the last person in the chain the best Apple representative that I spoke to? She was so nice I almost took the replacement! :)

In the end I opted for the refund. I chose this because I do believe this problem is a bit more widespread based on the research that I did. My next iMac might not have had the problem but it just as easily could have based on my research. Also with WWDC around the corner I hope this will give me some new leverage / buying power. The irony is had Apple taken care of this properly yesterday when I called I wouldn't have had an entire evening to blow researching the problem; I probably would have taken the replacement, none the wiser.

Tonight, after it gets dark in my office, I'm going to try the "flashlight trick" to offload what data is on the iMac, pack it up, and ship it out from work first thing Monday morning. Considering I spent nearly $2K on this machine I can't wait to have the wife let me have it with both guns! :)

Thanks to all that helped. In the end Apple did the right thing and I didn't have to get all wound up so it's for the best. Guess I'll keep my eyes open for the new WWDC announcements. Anyone got a sweet deal on a G5? :D
 
I'm glad to hear you got what you wanted. In the end I knew that Apple would do right by you. I hope you won't let your experience stop you from buying another Apple computer in the future.
 
Elan0204 said:
I hope you won't let your experience stop you from buying another Apple computer in the future.
No, not entirely. I did enjoy the machine for the 24 hours or so that I got to use it. :)

I'm researching G5s right now for post-WWDC price changes (crosses fingers). I have a 17" LCD that I can port to a G5 but I really will miss that iMac 17" widescreen. It was beautiful...when it worked. ;)
 
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