Exactly. Startups blaze trails, big corps finalize them, nothing wrong with that. If corps became fearful of penalties, they'd stop buying, and startups would occur a lot less often.
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I wouldn’t say Microsoft is comparable to the others, although there is a lot to evaluate too.
But they don’t run closed app stores and have much more serious competitors on everything they do.
Slowly then Suddenly. I seriously think we're seeing the beginning of the end. I know you all have a lot to be skeptical about here but it's going to be a huge party at my place when Facebook is gone.
Too late now.
Facebook also is funding factcheck.org.
Now think about all you consume as "facts" in the news, when the fact checker is funded by a company whose platform is filled with hoaxes and fake news that the company didn't care.
It's engagement man!
Facebook also is funding factcheck.org.
Now think about all you consume as "facts" in the news, when the fact checker is funded by a company whose platform is filled with hoaxes and fake news that the company didn't care.
It's engagement man!
The Feds are just upset that FB knows more about people than the Fed does.
Mind you I think FB is a plague on society, and I wish it would be broken down.
And I say this as never having a FB account on any other FB owned/operated entity.
Mind you I think FB is a plague on society, and I wish it would be broken down.
And I say this as never having a FB account on any other FB owned/operated entity.
Which is not now nor has ever been illegal, anymore than only being able to purchase products at a WalMart using WalMarts checkout stands.
Republicans in congress are probably spearheading this…. They would love to see Facebook burn
Correct.
I was just pointing out that the claim that Apple is somehow different is false.
Except the comment you were replying to was about Microsoft and this post is about Facebook. Apple is very much not the same as Facebook and the fact that Microsoft also operates a closed AppStore has nothing to do with any of it.
EDIT: Apologies i re-checked the thread and saw that the comment you were replying to did claim Microsoft doesn’t run a closed App Store. That’s on me, I should have paid more attention.
As cmaier pointed out Microsoft absolutely runs a closed App Store and has for ages on the Xbox.
Meanwhile, in what Arena does Apple not have serious competition?
PCs? Dell, Lenovo, Asus, etc
Smartphones? Google, Samsung, Huwaei
Smart speakers and set top boxes? Amazon, Google, Roku
Digital music? Amazon, Spotify, Google, Microsoft, Sony
Movie/TV streaming? Netflix, HBO, Amazon, Hulu
There is not one major category where Apple doesn’t have significant competition and in most of them they aren’t even the majority holder
The same cannot be said for Google (search/ads), Facebook (social networks), or Amazon (Ecommerce)
That’s the big 3, that’s where the FTC/DOJ focus should be, that’s where the market abuse and/or spread of disinformation is primarily occurring. Apple may not be perfect, but nothing it’s doing approaches the abuse of power of those 3.
Yeah, of course Facebook is failing to succeed in mobile world. Mobile client can open images at full res, only thumbnail on web. Mobile can react with more emojis. Web only for those preset ones. Web can filter conversation and mark message as done. Mobile can’t. Mobile can jump through inline replies. Web can’t. These feature disparities don’t make any sense, hence FTC’s allegation of Facebook failing to capture mobile market. But their desktop app isn’t great either. Can’t even load messages that are not sent from said machine.
Dalton Caldwell had an interesting example of that at the time:
daltoncaldwell.com
Dear Mark Zuckerberg
Mark, On June 13, 2012, at 4:30 p.m., I attended a meeting at Facebook HQ in Menlo Park, California. In addition to myself, the meeting was attended by executives at Facebook with the following titles: “VP, Engineering & Products”, “VP,...
daltoncaldwell.com
Years before Facebook purchased Instagram, the startup raised over $70 million in venture capital funding.
I don't think that kind of funding would have been available if there was a risk of anti-trust problems for whoever might buy the startup. The VC industry is all about investing in small companies hoping they are later sold to a large entrenched competitor.
If the FTC makes it illegal for a social network to purchase another social network, then VC money could dry up.
The corporate system the US has right now is far from perfect, but there is a reason why nearly every major tech company in the world was founded in the US and antitrust changes could do a lot of damage.
They all deserve to get fined and regulated.
Apple will just be the second one on the list, just like Microsoft that had to be regulated in the 90s browser and media player wars.
Now it’s social media, mobile platform monopoly and privacy abuse wars.
On the other hand, should Snapchat have some kind of exclusive right to create a product in that format? I assume they didn’t (and hopefully can’t, IMO) patent the format.
LOL that’s not how it works. Rich people will still keep throwing money at things to try and make them more rich. They did that before they’ll keep doing it again if one company isn’t allowed to monopolize.
Sony
Nintendo
Samsung
Huawei
Nokia
Hitachi
Lenovo
LG
None of them are US companies.
Meanwhile many of the smaller companies bought up by the larger ones have been foreign created.
In my opinion, the only reason why it appears Faceebook is buying up the competition is because the competition already have something that is extremely precious to Facebook and that is the personal data of millions of users. It will be interesting to see if Facebook tries to defend itself by saying they did not buy companies to stiffle competition, they bought them so they could migrate their users personal data into Facebook's ecosystem. It does not look good for Facebook either way, they either bought up the competition to stiffle competition or they bought the competition for the purpose of selling users data to Facebooks 'Authourised Partners' (basically advertisers). Neither option looks good for Facebook.