30% seems too high but obviously they should pay something since they're getting exposure from Apple's App Store. Maybe they should be trying to renegotiate the commission, not do away with it entirely.
I have one, and ios with freedom is superiorBuy an Android device.
so if apple drops the 30% our subscriptions will go down in price to reflect this?
Someone took Microsoft as an example, surely you understand that market share matters when an comparisson like that is made..
My question was very clear, and that question is why I commented on the post you made. I'm wondering why you won't let that one small comment go.Why did you make a big deal by commenting on it? See how that works?
My question was very clear, and that question is why I commented on the post you made. I'm wondering why you won't let that one small comment go.
Well, for various reasons. But right now? Because you won't answer my question.Why do you make the comments you do?
They should do, yes.
it was a joke. No way will the companies drop their price. apple cuts the 30% and the subscription will stay the same. You know it.
Well, for various reasons. But right now? Because you won't answer my question.
If that's your answer... fair enough.I make mine for various reasons too. I made mine because I was looking for answers.
But there wasn't Apple Music when they agreed to the TOS which quite clearly changes everything for the likes of Spotify et al - when your as big as Apple and you don't have to pay anyone 30% you can obviously have an unfair advantage when it comes to pricing. 30% is a massive markup when you're trying to compete. I'm no lawyer (unlike it seems everyone else on here) but I hope something comes of this. I'm as big a fan of Apple as the next guy that frequents this site, but i think fair & honest competition is good, and charging what they do and enforcing the other rules (i.e. no allowing in app links to external websites) appears wrong to me.
Investigation seems obvious when Apple introduces its own subscription service and puts all the competitors at a 30% disadvantage. Regulators would be all over Microsoft for the same behavior, and Apple IS the new Microsoft.
It would be helpful if as a developer if I could at least direct users in my apps to my websites to capture income.
Why does a reoccurring cost change things? You think if I created a game it'd be okay for them to take 30% if I sold it for $10 but not if I charged $0.99 a month? Its a store; stores sell products and services to earn revenue/profit. Why should Apple, at no cost, offer and support a service that is generating revenue because of them?Chargin 30% as a one time fee for every app you sell is something. Charging 30% for a service Apple doesn't run it's a whole other story. It's wrong and Apple has to stop now that they have a service of their own.
Because it is completely different and thats why its under investigation by the FTC and retail stores aren't. Maybe I'm wrong and you really do have a better understanding of anti-trust law than the Federal Trade Commission......
A 30% commission is excessive. But the Apple zealots will defend it no matter what, just like any religious cult. In their eyes Apple can do no wrong, regardless of the number of times they're found guilty for price fixing. Inflated commission only means an inflated price for consumers, but some people are happy to get ripped off it seems. They're perfectly content to defend a greedy corporation over people, a business which abuses tax code loopholes to receive welfare for the rich, tax shelters for tax avoidance, which also inflates our currency, even though they already have more cash reserves than the US Treasury.
What is Spotify going to do next? Demand that Apple separate the Apple Music subscription service from their music app and not allow it to be preinstalled on iOS devices?
That fee would suffice if you are not charging iPhone users for your product.
If you want space on any storefront (virtual or not), you must pay for it. If Apple ever decides to sell the iPhone on Amazon, they'll have to pay Amazon commission. That's how it works. It's ridiculous that were having this as an argument. I do agree that 30% is too high, but arguing about eliminating the fee entirely is disingenuous.
Where is the option to upgrade to 2gb ram?
Who's getting rich in the App Store?
Some of us did - great experience, ah! the freedom.Buy an Android device.
Apple doesn't own the market, unlike Microsoft at the time, Apple is nowhere near a monopoly position. Microsoft used their near monopoly of the desktop OS to try to win and capture the browser market.
Android devices comes with the Gapps preinstalled, they can't be removed without rooting the device, and they have a larger market share, so why single out Apple when it's more appropriate to scrutinize Android in terms of market share.
No one is removing competition by another player entering it.Do you realize that YOU would benefit from this investigation?
remove the competition and prices go up. Why are you defending apple so hard without even knowing the facts? Nothing has happened yet, all that has happened it's popped up on the FTC radar.
Apple is doing something different ! Show me the other Apple made apps that Apple has sold to you. I thought all the Apple apps were free.... I might be wrong
You do realize that the cost of an employee is around double the salary that is paid out. I meant $200/hr.There are a couple things to consider here. One is that the store actually purchases those items at a set rate. Apple has brick and mortar stores that do this. Apps don't work that way. Apple effectively takes a commission. They do not purchase the product at any point.
The way you wrote 200k/hr suggests you aren't computing in US dollars. People generally read 200k as 200,000 USD. Even $200/hr seems highly unlikely. That would be over 400,000 USD before benefits. I get the issue of office space and support, but you don't really give any indication of how you arrived at that figure. You also don't mention what leads you to believe that the app store is barely profitable.
Did the government get MSFT for the browser? No. They tried to and ultimately failed and IE 6 became the #1 browser for years after the fact. That was good for no one even MSFT. This is why I think the government doesn't always need to insert itself when the markets haven't been given a chance to work.Just because they know the rules beforehand does not make the practice legal in the eyes on government antitrust.
Remember when they got Microsoft for putting their browser bundled with Windows? Competing browser knew this was the "rules" that Microsoft had set.
Not saying it's legal or not, I am not an antitrust lawyer or investigator, but there are a lot of things that Apple are doing that is borderline antitrust in my eyes, looking at past issues that they have done.
From my view, I do see antitrust violations with competing paid services. They provide an in-app purchases in their own product, yet they levy a fee of 30% of subscription costs for same thing to competitors. It's not a matter of "they know the rules".