So then open Safari, go to Spotify.com and sign up. Not difficult.The problem is that Apple prohibits any mention of being able to subscribe outside the app store from within your app.
But Apple can't prevent Spotify sending people an email directing them to their website to subscribe.That may be, but Apple does prohibit it. It should come as no surprise that Apple's enforcement of various rules can vary. But that's the rule.
Just because they know the rules beforehand does not make the practice legal in the eyes on government antitrust.
Remember when they got Microsoft for putting their browser bundled with Windows? Competing browser knew this was the "rules" that Microsoft had set.
Not saying it's legal or not, I am not an antitrust lawyer or investigator, but there are a lot of things that Apple are doing that is borderline antitrust in my eyes, looking at past issues that they have done.
From my view, I do see antitrust violations with competing paid services. They provide an in-app purchases in their own product, yet they levy a fee of 30% of subscription costs for same thing to competitors. It's not a matter of "they know the rules".
Buy an Android device.Let us side load apps on iOS without jailbreaking
Chargin 30% as a one time fee for every app you sell is something. Charging 30% for a service Apple doesn't run it's a whole other story. It's wrong and Apple has to stop now that they have a service of their own.So then open Safari, go to Spotify.com and sign up. Not difficult.
It sort of depends on whether this is really a "store," doesn't it? If you buy an iPod at Target, it's the same price as at the Apple store, and Target is getting a small margin on it, so Apple is getting less. In that sense, Apple just has a really premium retail space that they've managed to dictate terms very favorable to themselves in.
So is this Apple charging Spotify 30%, or is it just the markup on the product, and Spotify is willing to sell their product for $6.99 to Apple at wholesale, but $9.99 to you?
Basically, this. That's like expecting retail stores to sell at wholesale prices? Why should this be any different?
I don't have an issue with Apple taking 30% on purchases of apps, but they need to either reduce the amount they take from monthly subscriptions or allow developers to show in apps where they can purchase the subscription 30% cheaper at the developers site.
Taking 30% per month for doing very little is a ripoff, I make a point of never ever subscribing through app store apps
The government needs to stay out of it and let the free market sort this stuff out TBQH. I hate when the government gets involved in picking winners and losers with the interpretation of the law. Apple's 30% cut is standard retail practice. The maintenance of such a HUGE app ecosystem alone is a HUGE expensive undertaking. The 30% covers the cost and offers Apple what is at best a slightly above break-even proposition. Apple has not done anything wrong to Spotify other than offer up more competition in the music streaming market seeing as Spotify's efforts to get users to stream their music have been unprofitable for pretty much everyone involved.
Because it is completely different and thats why its under investigation by the FTC and retail stores aren't. Maybe I'm wrong and you really do have a better understanding of anti-trust law than the Federal Trade Commission......
That has nothing to do with Apple taking a 30% cut. It's because people don't want to pay for software. Just Like all the debates out there now over advertising. People whine and complain about ads on websites but nobody wants to pay for content. It's hard to make money with consumers want things for free.
What is Spotify going to do next? Demand that Apple separate the Apple Music subscription service from their music app and not allow it to be preinstalled on iOS devices?FTC looking into Spp Store Rules is more about showing Apple and spotify etc that there is regulation and that big brother is keeping an eye on 'fairness'
Why did you make a big deal out of that one comment? It has very little to do with the topic at hand.That's why I asked who was getting rich as another user claimed. I never mentioned Apple's cut.
Why did you make a big deal out of that one comment? It has very little to do with the topic at hand.
I hope Apple loses this battle. microsoft got slapped for it's shady practices and Apple should get slapped as well.
Because Apple owns the marketplace the competition is rigged in their favor. They have an unfair advantage over their competition. This practice has to change.
Apple doesn't own the market, unlike Microsoft at the time, Apple is nowhere near a monopoly position. Microsoft used their near monopoly of the desktop OS to try to win and capture the browser market.
Android devices comes with the Gapps preinstalled, they can't be removed without rooting the device, and they have a larger market share, so why single out Apple when it's more appropriate to scrutinize Android in terms of market share.
Everything else is always more appropriate than checking into Apple's business practices.