Full iBook Specs


macrumors 68030
Jan 9, 2002
Ha ha haaa!
So, it doesn't sound like there's anything new except a minor speed bump and a new sub-$1K entry level model.



macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2001
No superdrive = duh!

What good would a superdrive be in a G3-based machine? Encoding a DVD with a G3 has got to be a tiring experience.


macrumors regular
Jan 21, 2002
i think that a $200 price drop is pretty signifigant... a $999 notebook is awsome.

now what about those powerbook specs?



macrumors regular
Jul 1, 2002
In front of my Mac
Re: No superdrive = duh!

Originally posted by oldMac
What good would a superdrive be in a G3-based machine? Encoding a DVD with a G3 has got to be a tiring experience.
If these old grey cells serve me right, a G4 is needed to run iDVD, hence the iMac had a G4 on it's re-introduction. G3 iBooks will most likely have combo-drive for top of the line for a while.


macrumors 6502a
Jan 5, 2002
Originally posted by Hemingray
So, it doesn't sound like there's anything new except a minor speed bump and a new sub-$1K entry level model.

What were you expecting? Superdrive, G4, bluetooth and $500 price tag?


macrumors 6502
Jul 17, 2002
Central Texas
An iBook for under $1,000, see Apple, that wasnt so hard now was it? Now that the prices are just right, its only a matter of waiting for them to be spec for spec as good as the competition. I'm talking DVD players and more Ram on all models. But, since we will not ever get that, these are good enough. These look like good Macs to buy to hold me over until the G5's get here.


macrumors 68040
Oct 28, 2001
San Luis Obispo, CA
What I think....

What it is:

$999, CD-ROM, 12.1", 700MHz G3, 128MB, 20GB
$1299, Combo Drive, 12.1", 800MHz G3, 128MB, 30GB
$1599, Combo Drive, 14.1", 800MHz G3, 256MB, 30GB

What it should be:

$999, DVD/CD, 12.1", 700MHz G3, 256MB, 20GB
$1299, Combo Drive, 12.1", 800MHz G3, 512MB, 30GB
$1599, Combo Drive, 14.1" (1280x1024), 800MHz G3, 512 or 768MB, 40GB
32MB Graphics on all models


macrumors 6502
Jul 17, 2002
Central Texas
Originally posted by Nebrie

What were you expecting? Superdrive, G4, bluetooth and $500 price tag?
It's this attitude of low expectations about Apple actually giving us something competitive in hardware specs and costs that allows them to sell 5 year old technology at a premium price in todays market. Maybe if we held Apple under a microscope and told them what we want to see all the time, they would deliver. If you just accept everything they give you without pointing out what they need to improve on, we will end up getting farther and farther behind every other computer manufacturer and OS.
These price cuts should have been done a long time ago. They are starting to do a good job on pricing now with their whole consumer line but they are doing terrible at actually updating their computers to do more and be faster every year. So it looks like they will not be getting much faster next year if they resorted to dropping prices.

I do need to state however that the prices for the i line of Macs is great, but that they should have been faster than they are now if Motorola was doing their job and everybody knows it.


macrumors regular
Mar 7, 2002
Originally posted by reyesmac

It's this attitude of low expectations about Apple actually giving us something competitive in hardware specs and costs that allows them to sell 5 year old technology at a premium price in todays market.
I completely agree. If those are the specs for the iBook they really aren't anything special for $999. Apple needs to start ponying up and be more willing to have slightly lower profit margins.


macrumors 6502
Sep 18, 2001
I'm just tired of having to wait 6-9 months for any kind of update at all. (in most cases). Look at other companies. Dell (I hate dell) updates their line twice as often as Apple, if not more. This leads apple fans to only buy when a new line comes out and if it's been 4-5 months, buying slows down because of an expected update. Updates should come every 3-4 months accross the board IMHO. It would make things seem faster even if the were just minor updates.


macrumors member
Jan 14, 2002
Green Bay, Wisconsin
Sorry Apple!

I'm not impressed anymore. :(

The last 3 releases have been lack-luster.

Sure your giving your product Jaguar away. Well, I've seen entertainment shows give away tickets because nobody has bought tickets anyhow.

I've been a life long, non-bandwagon, stick to my guns, stick up for Apple kinda guy. I haven't any reason to anymore.

somebody please, give me a reason to hang on.


macrumors regular
Sep 11, 2002
I have to agree. I love macs, but in this day and age, you should at least have a dvd drive (combo drive) for that grand.


macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2002
Houston, TX
good call edvniow.

i know that mac users are in between a rock and a hard place on hardware.. but to defect to M$ is about the dumbest thing you can do. they don't have a future. if you want *nix and are willing to deal with it, more power to you. but not M$. it's cheap mass marketing. all the speed you can ask for.... with all the dictatorial control of fascist germany. M$ is already far more obstrusive than i am comfortable with, and they clearly have no intention of getting better. au contraire.
the day they come out with a windows that stifles winamp 3 (or other winamp) is the day i never buy a microsoft product again. ever.

that was horrifying but helpful, edvniow. that was even more disturbing than apocalypse now. by far.


macrumors 603
Jun 25, 2002
LaLaLand, CA
Re: Re: Sorry Apple!

Originally posted by edvniow

reason enough for me

I knew it was going to be bad, but not that bad. This is going to be a big problem. WHERE DOES IT END? I can just see M$ and Intel highjacking everyones PCs, forcing everyone to upgrade whenever they deem it necessary, giving them open access to your sensitive infomation, leaving their software buggy and wide open to hackers and malicious viruses and spyware due to a load of (known) security flaws... oh, wait. They already do that.

But it will get worse.

Not that I pirate software or music or anything. :D


macrumors G4
Jul 18, 2002
I accidentally my whole location.
That's just the beginnning.

I read the part about the serial #s on PIIIs and I was like WTF?!?
I've got a PIII and I never knew about that until I started reading up on it. Not something the average consumer would know, that's for sure.

MS may have gotton off with just a minor slap on the wrist in the antitrust case, but being declared innocent didn't make OJ popular either.

The really scary thing about all this is people are going to buy it.
Palladium is something that's going to become a reality in the next five years. Anybody who onwes MS's latest software should be seriously considering alternatives right now.
I know I am.
Since I can't afford a Mac, I'm trying out Linux on my system right now and while things are going a bit shaky, I can say that hopefully within a couple months, I will have banished all MS from my system permanetly.
I feel sorry for the PC users that don't know about this and will continue to buy MS products.

Funny thing is, most people won't care.
Palladium won't be so bad for those who don't pirate software or rip MP3s to their computer. It won't affect anybody who pretty much keeps everything to themselves and there's a lot of people that do just that.
For them it shouldn't be a matter of privacy or security, it should be a matter of principle.

I love it when people say 'WMP copy-proteced my files!' and someone comes back to them and says, 'don't you know you can turn that off?'
My question is , 'why the hell does it have to be there in the first place?

If the government won't do anything (and I doubt they will since nothing has been done yet) then it's up to the consumers to fight the battle.

This means war.


macrumors 6502
Jul 17, 2002
Central Texas
Who cares about all that future windows stuff? If you buy an old 800mhz PC that is still enough to be able to play more games than you would ever have time to play and be able to ad other things to the computer that is real expensive to do on the Mac. I would never switch completely to the darkside, but for a few hundred dollars you can have a used system that you can use to do things you can't on the Mac you currently own. I mean, why pay $500+ for an upgrade card when you can just get a PC to hold you over? You would then have the best of both worlds without the worries. The only software you would have to buy on the PC is games or a TV PCI card or stuff like that.

I will hold out for one more Macworld and then I will decide if I should upgrade or just get a PC which my wife needs and use both.

I really feel bad for Apple because I know I am not the only one that hopes Apple has some miracle plan at Macworld that will calm everybody down.

Who here thinks that Apple will be able to satisfy OVER 50% of thier customers with whatever they come out with this next Macworld? I would say they have a 50% chance.

I know someday I will blow an insane amout of cash on a new Apple system, I just hate having to wait so long for a good deal.


macrumors regular
Mar 25, 2002
DRM,Palladium and Apple

The crappy thing is Apple can't really advertise that " Our computer allows you to pirate music and movies unlike the competitions ". Also, Apple currently has the respect of the entertainment community but may lose that respect if the community sees that they are not "following the trend" to DRM and preventing copyright infringment on the home computer. At some point Apple may be strong armed into DRM on their OS. M$ corporate asskissing could be damaging to the whole computer industry.
I heard Spiderman sold 7 million dvd's the day it opened. Thats pretty good eh? On anther note i saw a web page that states a company is working on a dvd player that will play divx movies...These are strange times we live in.

wow that was a completely random post...that ibook would be nice if only it had a g4 in it..at 999.00, do i ask for too much? prolly


macrumors newbie
Nov 4, 2002
13 inch screen is so little to ask for... :(

Is this upgrade supposed to last us another 6-9 months? It is very upsetting. I feel hungry already. IT's good that we are getting a price cut AND a CPU boost, but it is NOT significant enough to be warranted a major upgrade status. The line-up is almost unchanged.

Going over this board, the most frequently asked feature is a 13 inch screen, and they can't deliver that. Why is Apple keeping a 14 inch line? Does any one really enjoy that machine that much? If they replace that with a 13 inch screen, and keep the same price, I would still buy it. But, not the 14 inch screen.


macrumors member
Oct 22, 2002
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We are home, Dad.

Just went to the PowerPage.org site to check the specs a second time. The first time, it was up and running. Now (10 minutes later) it says

"Sorry, this story is missing, or there is a problem with it. It may not be imported yet, you may just have the wrong ID, or the database might just be having a fit. please click here to email us a problem report. Thanks!"

How fast does Apple Legal move? It reminds me of the Simpsons episode, when Homer says, "Let's go home, kids." And Lisa says, "We are home, Dad." And then Homer says, "That was fast."

IN ANY CASE, I for one am jazzed by the price cuts / speed bumps. I've been waiting to buy a 12" 700 mhz iBook for a while. Now I can get a 12" machine at 800 mhz for $200 less? Fantastic. If they also include 32 MB VRAM and a better graphics card, I'll be floored.



macrumors regular
Apr 11, 2002
Keep in mind that no matter what Apple came out with, a bunch of people would still be pissed off. I don't think any amount of complaining to Apple is going to change how they release their products, nor do I think they're lining their pockets with the enormous profit margins they're getting on the iBook. I would have liked to have seen a 13" screen myself, but a $200 price drop and a small speed increase isn't bad. Would you rather they simply not released any new iBooks at all?


macrumors 601
Aug 9, 2002
Guys its been the same with Apple for years. A big "blow your mind" release (like the imac), then nothing major for a long while. Don't get all upset about every little update, just be thankful we are getting some updates... And more importantly, be thankful we are getting price drops! a 999 notebook is awesome... When i got my powerbook G3 it costed over $5000.
I have confidence Apple will come out with some next big thing... but we have to wait until then.