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PowerPage
While I'm sure these specs are right (no brainer), is it just me that doesn't think PowerPage is very accurate? In the last 6 months they've predicted:
- Powerbooks with bluetooth in August
- 1.2Ghz Powerbooks
- No Powerbooks till 2003
- External Superdrives
- Apple PDAs
If we get a 1.2Ghz Bluetooth Powerbook with external Superdrive on Wednesday, they'll be doing better
While I'm sure these specs are right (no brainer), is it just me that doesn't think PowerPage is very accurate? In the last 6 months they've predicted:
- Powerbooks with bluetooth in August
- 1.2Ghz Powerbooks
- No Powerbooks till 2003
- External Superdrives
- Apple PDAs
If we get a 1.2Ghz Bluetooth Powerbook with external Superdrive on Wednesday, they'll be doing better
Re: Re: We are home, Dad.
I bet you're right. After all, it's still pretty early (Left Coast Time) for Apple Legal's stormtroopers to get into action. But three hours later, Powerpage is still having database issues... I guess it will be resolved or explained soon.
TG
I bet you're right. After all, it's still pretty early (Left Coast Time) for Apple Legal's stormtroopers to get into action. But three hours later, Powerpage is still having database issues... I guess it will be resolved or explained soon.
TG
You're right. However, Palladium will likely strengthen the appeal of the Mac's "It just works" marketing.
I don't think Palladium is going to be seamless and transparent, especially not in the beginning. There are likely to be issues that noticably undermine usability. Macs will seem just that much easier to deal with in comparison.
Man, I am pumped about this update, the 12 with the combo is the one for me.
For the weak willed out there wqho are complaining:
I don't think you are going to sway applt too much. Here is what you are saying.
"I own this beautiful sturdy reliable Bently that never breaks down and treats me like a king. Its not fast enough though, so I'm going to get this rickety, slapped together miata that the maker says will do a a hundred and sixty, but the transmission fell out before I could get that fast and I'm really just driving to the video store to rent starwars again anyway."
wankers
For the weak willed out there wqho are complaining:
I don't think you are going to sway applt too much. Here is what you are saying.
"I own this beautiful sturdy reliable Bently that never breaks down and treats me like a king. Its not fast enough though, so I'm going to get this rickety, slapped together miata that the maker says will do a a hundred and sixty, but the transmission fell out before I could get that fast and I'm really just driving to the video store to rent starwars again anyway."
wankers
Re: What I think....
ok were talking about iBook specs not powerbook specs. The price drop comes because outside of a slight MHZ jump were really not getting that much more on these iBooks. This is similar to the original dual 1GHZ having a $500 price drop as all apple did is make it faster then the dual 800 add an extra 256MB of ram and Nvidia's Geforce 4MX graphics. Ohh and iBooks can only support upto 640MB ram inside, so I don't know where you got the idea thay they hold 768MB?
Tyler
ok were talking about iBook specs not powerbook specs. The price drop comes because outside of a slight MHZ jump were really not getting that much more on these iBooks. This is similar to the original dual 1GHZ having a $500 price drop as all apple did is make it faster then the dual 800 add an extra 256MB of ram and Nvidia's Geforce 4MX graphics. Ohh and iBooks can only support upto 640MB ram inside, so I don't know where you got the idea thay they hold 768MB?
Tyler
PowerPage predictions
The Ogrady website posts whatever they can to get hits so they can sell ads for more money. They predicted indiglo technology and wacom tablets as a CERTAINTY for the last rev of TiBooks. They also post a lot of info prematurely, like the Oyster PowerBook stand being a good stand.
The Ogrady website posts whatever they can to get hits so they can sell ads for more money. They predicted indiglo technology and wacom tablets as a CERTAINTY for the last rev of TiBooks. They also post a lot of info prematurely, like the Oyster PowerBook stand being a good stand.
I don't think powerpage.org knows jack, and historically they have NOT been accurate. They are just posting some old news and then being very conerative about the hardware specs. The price cut has been talked about for 4-5 days now. So they are not saying ANYTHING knew. Just another rumor.
However, this rumor is not too bad for the iBooks. An ATI 7500 32mb for the iBook would be a real treat though.
The statements about the Powerbooks are off in my opinion. I bet it comes with an ATI 9000 (32mb or 64mb, not sure), and bluetooth, but not superdrive. 933 being the top model.
However, this rumor is not too bad for the iBooks. An ATI 7500 32mb for the iBook would be a real treat though.
The statements about the Powerbooks are off in my opinion. I bet it comes with an ATI 9000 (32mb or 64mb, not sure), and bluetooth, but not superdrive. 933 being the top model.
Ha ha ha. Man, I am pumped too, I don't know what everybody's complaining about. The guy across the desk from me has a 12" 500 mhz machine he loves, with good reason: it's dope. And now I'm gonna get the same iBook, only flying at a much faster 800 mhz with a bigger L2 cache? For less money than he paid? Oh yeah.
TG
slow as hell
Buyer Beware:
I have an 600 iBook and it is slow as Hell. No way I am going to make the same mistake again. My recommendation is wait for the 1.2 G3 with decent cache- it is the best chip for the iBook and will probably make into the next ibook. The people who are responding that their current Ibooks are fast enough have to be light weights. I experience lots of spinning beach balls (or whatever it is called now in 10.2) so if you want to do email only or just use word the the iBook can handle it . Yes, I did put in more ram and it makes OS 10 border line acceptable but it is annoying when you have to wait for your OS to catch up with you.
This is the last revisions that will Boot OS 9 so it is not in apples best interest to sell kick ass computers. They want to bump up the line to stimulate sales for this quarter but they don't want the large amount of os 9 users to stay on OS 9. The faster hardware will probably come out next year and will 'force' the upgrade to OS 10. Apple is playing this delicate balancing act and I hope most consumers stop buying until they put out products that they are capable of making and stop crippling their hardware.
Buyer Beware:
I have an 600 iBook and it is slow as Hell. No way I am going to make the same mistake again. My recommendation is wait for the 1.2 G3 with decent cache- it is the best chip for the iBook and will probably make into the next ibook. The people who are responding that their current Ibooks are fast enough have to be light weights. I experience lots of spinning beach balls (or whatever it is called now in 10.2) so if you want to do email only or just use word the the iBook can handle it . Yes, I did put in more ram and it makes OS 10 border line acceptable but it is annoying when you have to wait for your OS to catch up with you.
This is the last revisions that will Boot OS 9 so it is not in apples best interest to sell kick ass computers. They want to bump up the line to stimulate sales for this quarter but they don't want the large amount of os 9 users to stay on OS 9. The faster hardware will probably come out next year and will 'force' the upgrade to OS 10. Apple is playing this delicate balancing act and I hope most consumers stop buying until they put out products that they are capable of making and stop crippling their hardware.
I hope that the new PowerBook has a SuperDrive. My uncle is looking to buy a new laptop and it would be great if he didn't have to buy a Sony to get the DVD-R drive. Also, since he is going to be using it for video purposes it would be nice if it had a 1GHz+ CPU with a Radeon 9000 video card.
1.5GB Ram would be nice...
They could put the third slot SOMEWHERE... or have the 512MB on the motherboard.
drool...
1.5GB Ram would be nice...
They could put the third slot SOMEWHERE... or have the 512MB on the motherboard.
drool...
Re: slow as hell
With Jaguar my 500MHz iBook performs very well. It is no G4 Dual 1.25GHz, but it can do everything I want it to do well. It even runs Maya, although it takes a long time to render.
Oh, and by the way, are you the Mr. T of Spymac? Just asking.
With Jaguar my 500MHz iBook performs very well. It is no G4 Dual 1.25GHz, but it can do everything I want it to do well. It even runs Maya, although it takes a long time to render.
Oh, and by the way, are you the Mr. T of Spymac? Just asking.
The current iBook probably has one of the best (if not the best) chips in an Apple computer right now. The only problem is, Apple has severly crippled it so that it won't look better than the tiBook. The Sahara G3 reached 1ghz over an year ago and can have a FSB of 200mhz. Remember, this is an IBM G3 chip... Apple has just seemingly dumbed it down for the tiBooks sake. Remember how the last revision could be overclocked via software. #1 sign that this chip could easily deliver more.
Originally posted by ibookin'@mwny
I hope that the new PowerBook has a SuperDrive. My uncle is looking to buy a new laptop and it would be great if he didn't have to buy a Sony to get the DVD-R drive. Also, since he is going to be using it for video purposes it would be nice if it had a 1GHz+ CPU with a Radeon 9000 video card.
1.5GB Ram would be nice...
They could put the third slot SOMEWHERE... or have the 512MB on the motherboard.
drool...
Considering how much we preached the megahertz myth on these forums, we have to overcome the mental barrier. How much better is a 1Ghtz chip compared to a 999Mhz chip. I KNOW it's a milestone, but I find it really hard to believe people with $3000+ to spend on a laptop are even CONSIDERING different operating systems. Doesn't anyone have investment in software anymore or has the internet killed loyalty and law abiding practices?
Re: slow as hell
Umm, what planet are you from??? A 1.2 ghz G3? So after they've gone from 700 to 800 mhz in five months, it's gonna jump 400 mhz for the next revision?
Can you say 'troll'?...
Yes the people who say that their current iBook are fast enough are 'light weights.' That's who the iBook is targeted for, not for editing feature-length films or doing fancy filters on 100-mb photoshop files. If you're a 'heavyweight' user, you shouldn't be running an iBook in the first place.
Umm, what planet are you from??? A 1.2 ghz G3? So after they've gone from 700 to 800 mhz in five months, it's gonna jump 400 mhz for the next revision?
Can you say 'troll'?...
Yes the people who say that their current iBook are fast enough are 'light weights.' That's who the iBook is targeted for, not for editing feature-length films or doing fancy filters on 100-mb photoshop files. If you're a 'heavyweight' user, you shouldn't be running an iBook in the first place.
Re: Re: slow as hell
I agree that the next ibook revision may, if we're lucky include a 1 ghz G3; not 1.2. Regardless of it being a consumer machine, Apple should take every step to making it a viable os x machine by including at least 32 MB of video and 900mhz processor if they are going to leave a 100 mhz bus. The only thing welcome about this revision (ibook and powerbook) is the price drop - if indeed there is one.
I agree that the next ibook revision may, if we're lucky include a 1 ghz G3; not 1.2. Regardless of it being a consumer machine, Apple should take every step to making it a viable os x machine by including at least 32 MB of video and 900mhz processor if they are going to leave a 100 mhz bus. The only thing welcome about this revision (ibook and powerbook) is the price drop - if indeed there is one.
simply better
Either you think Apple makes a better product than windows or you don't. I for one believe their product is infinitely better in every way applicable to my needs. For example, I don't play games on my mac. I have a PS2 for that and prefer sitting in front of a 27" TV on my couch.
If you looked at the Q4 results for apple, it's obvious they're not hording money and profits. They're reinvesting the profits into R&D and marketing.
I expect to pay more for a better built and integrated piece of hardware and OS. I expect to pay more for an OS that fully supports networking (oh wait - MS charges at least a hundred bucks more for that). I expect to pay more for built in 802.11b support that doesn't require a PCI or PCMCAI card. I expect to pay more for style and design (like how easy it is to install and upgrade components of a G4 tower). I expect to pay more for included software like iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, iPhoto, iCal, AppleWorks, and a great mail and address book app built in, installed and free. These apps are arguably better than any on the PC side (in the same class obviously) that aren't free. AND they're integrated and updated with the OS through the simple software update panel.
And now that all my macs are unix based, I can click one preference and be instantly running an apache server over my dsl line. (And I am actually) The unix stuff is just insanely cool - but I realize not many folks will give a damn about that.
If you enjoy XP and Wintel boxes better than what macintosh has to offer, I highly recommend you switch to their platform. It is after all less expensive. But I see a lot of people here saying they wish they could afford a mac. That says alot to me. It says they understand value. They wish they had the money to pay for something better. I mean, I wish I could own a porsche, but I can't.
Either you think Apple makes a better product than windows or you don't. I for one believe their product is infinitely better in every way applicable to my needs. For example, I don't play games on my mac. I have a PS2 for that and prefer sitting in front of a 27" TV on my couch.
If you looked at the Q4 results for apple, it's obvious they're not hording money and profits. They're reinvesting the profits into R&D and marketing.
I expect to pay more for a better built and integrated piece of hardware and OS. I expect to pay more for an OS that fully supports networking (oh wait - MS charges at least a hundred bucks more for that). I expect to pay more for built in 802.11b support that doesn't require a PCI or PCMCAI card. I expect to pay more for style and design (like how easy it is to install and upgrade components of a G4 tower). I expect to pay more for included software like iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, iPhoto, iCal, AppleWorks, and a great mail and address book app built in, installed and free. These apps are arguably better than any on the PC side (in the same class obviously) that aren't free. AND they're integrated and updated with the OS through the simple software update panel.
And now that all my macs are unix based, I can click one preference and be instantly running an apache server over my dsl line. (And I am actually) The unix stuff is just insanely cool - but I realize not many folks will give a damn about that.
If you enjoy XP and Wintel boxes better than what macintosh has to offer, I highly recommend you switch to their platform. It is after all less expensive. But I see a lot of people here saying they wish they could afford a mac. That says alot to me. It says they understand value. They wish they had the money to pay for something better. I mean, I wish I could own a porsche, but I can't.
Quartz Extreme
QE doesn't need 32MB on an iBook. It has 32MB on Power systems because of dual monitor support or the 23" Cinema Display - two 1024x768 screens will need twice as much VRAM.
Having used both a 700Mhz iBook and Ti800 I can honestly say X does not run massively faster on the 32MB card.
This 32MB vs 16MB is just willy waving as far as iBooks are concerned.
QE doesn't need 32MB on an iBook. It has 32MB on Power systems because of dual monitor support or the 23" Cinema Display - two 1024x768 screens will need twice as much VRAM.
Having used both a 700Mhz iBook and Ti800 I can honestly say X does not run massively faster on the 32MB card.
This 32MB vs 16MB is just willy waving as far as iBooks are concerned.
Re: simply better
If you're "expecting to pay more," then it's not "free", is it?
"Value" is not just quality, but also price. People are paying approximately the same money for an x86 laptop as an iBook would cost, because ultimately they feel the x86 has more value. But if these lower prices rumors are true, then the iBook's "value" should increase along with sales.