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Full Resolution Photos from the New iPhone 4S Camera

As for action shots, look at the (on the Apple page,) "crashing wave" picture. That's ISO 64, f/2.4, 1/824 second exposure. Yes, it's bright daylight, but that's pretty darned fast. Good looking pic, too.

Would have been nice for their example gallery to have a few lower-light pictures, though.
 
I deal with RAW daily, and I have little desire to do so with my phone. Just give me a solid JPG profile, and I'm good. I'm not sure why the poster believes that the need for RAW follows from an 8MP sensor. There are plenty of great P&S rigs out there that do 10+MP (albeit mostly for marketing purposes) that produce great JPGs. Hell, most of the A-list production guys I've worked with fall back to paired RAWs maybe 10% of the time, if that even. All in all, I'd venture that there would be little increased range found in the RAW vs. Apple's JPG, not even considering additional time to post.

Now, what might be more useful is more creative control on capture with manual WB. Make it a "pro" toggle in settings like the HDR + standard pairing. It'd also be nice to tweak the JPG profile. Then, I just remember that this is a phone camera aimed at mass consumption. Though, it's a very good one.

Edit: add 2:3 to the "pro" settings wish list.
 
4:3 photos look stupid..
if you want to take nice and well proportioned pictures you have to use 2:3 aspect ratio (some would also like 1:1).
why don't make a pre-shot crop tool?
 
Prodo123 said:
http://teavuihuang.com/dng/
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Note: A 1.3MP image takes approximately 4MB of storage space, and ~40 seconds of processing time.

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Trauma1 said:
Those eight pics are nice. But it doesn't really tell the whole story.

Show us some impressive low-light pictures, then we can talk.
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I totally agree.

Plus, show us some photos taken in rooms with fluorescent lights so we can see if the pics have large blue-green splotches smack in the middle. That's a problem that plagues the iPhone 4 camera.
 
japanime said:
I totally agree.

Plus, show us some photos taken in rooms with fluorescent lights so we can see if the pics have large blue-green splotches smack in the middle. That's a problem that plagues the iPhone 4 camera.
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Remember the sushi pic? That did not have the green blob problem.
 
I was wishing the iPhone camera would support RAW images so I am also disappointed in that regard. I am excited about having 1080p video capture on the iPhone.
 
pdqgp said:
Metering needs some work as the highlights blow out easily …
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The blown out highlights were what I couldn't help noticing during the presentation too. I was hoping it was due to the limitations of filming a projected screen or something, but even on their new promo video for the iPhone 4S, it's there. If you didn't spot it, pause the promo video at 3:06 and have a look at the highlights on the girl's skin. You can see it on the squirrel photo too.

Some people are complaining here about JPEG compression. Really? If no one told you, would you be able to spot the compression artefacts on these images? But to me, those blown out highlights are really obvious, and once you lose the detail in the highlights, no amount of correction in Photoshop can ever get them back.

My fear is that Apple has set image processing to produce photos that look punchy on screen, but in so doing have sacrificed detail in the highlights. That would be a real shame for what looks to be amazing optical hardware by consumer standards.
 
MacDarcy said:
Will you be able to purchase the iphone 4S WITHOUT a contract like you can all the other iphones?

I travel alot, and dpnt need the phone, ...
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Sure, Apple will sell if for $600 or whatever it is. Might just as well get a nice point and shoot for that.
 
Apple have certainly come a long way from the pretty dire 3GS camera, these look really good.
 
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Ramsos said:
Those Squirrels have to be stuff no way they got that close to a live one.

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Impressive images from a phone either way. :apple:
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There are loads of places where squirrels will get that close. In York here in the UK they'll climb all over you to get to your food. :)
 
The iPhone 4 camera is already quite impressive (save for certain low light conditions and zoom function.) Throw in a few photo apps (e.g., Camera+ and Hipstamatic) and you've got it made as fas as smartphone cams go.

Any improvements to it are most welcome, and will certainly cause me to use my Canon point-and-shoot even less.
 
Dynamic range is my biggest complaint about cell phone cameras, its inevitable due to their small sensors. Other aspects are nice, but it really limits the versatility of these phone cameras if you are used to using a premium compact (something with a 1/1.8" sensor).

Being able to adjust exposure compensation and/or contrast would help. I'm sure contrast is pumped up to give images more punch, reducing contrast would help (slightly) with dynamic range.

The squirrel shot is nice and sharp, but has a lot of blown highlights.

A lot of the time when people think they are seeing JPEG compression, they are actually seeing the effects of automatic noise reduction.

kalsta said:
The blown out highlights were what I couldn't help noticing during the presentation too. I was hoping it was due to the limitations of filming a projected screen or something, but even on their new promo video for the iPhone 4S, it's there. If you didn't spot it, pause the promo video at 3:06 and have a look at the highlights on the girl's skin. You can see it on the squirrel photo too.

Some people are complaining here about JPEG compression. Really? If no one told you, would you be able to spot the compression artefacts on these images? But to me, those blown out highlights are really obvious, and once you lose the detail in the highlights, no amount of correction in Photoshop can ever get them back.

My fear is that Apple has set image processing to produce photos that look punchy on screen, but in so doing have sacrificed detail in the highlights. That would be a real shame for what looks to be amazing optical hardware by consumer standards.
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My biggest complaint is still lack of a physical zoom. If my two year old Sony Cybershot, which is slightly thicker than my iPhone 4 can have a 4x zoom that doesn't extend out of the body, why not get to at least a 2-3x zoom? It would make a world of a difference.
 
Pegamush said:
4:3 photos look stupid..
if you want to take nice and well proportioned pictures you have to use 2:3 aspect ratio (some would also like 1:1).
why don't make a pre-shot crop tool?
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Why do you want to crop the photo before taking the shot? If the image sensor is 4:3 it doesn't make a difference whether you crop it before or after taking the shot.
 
Anonymous Freak said:
As for action shots, look at the (on the Apple page,) "crashing wave" picture. That's ISO 64, f/2.4, 1/824 second exposure. Yes, it's bright daylight, but that's pretty darned fast. Good looking pic, too.

Would have been nice for their example gallery to have a few lower-light pictures, though.
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Good looking pic in what way? The highlights are blown out all over. I'm confused.

Are you seeing something presented that eludes to better low light shots? These 6500k daylight exposed shots are showing noise and compression from the NR already. That's not going to bode well for low light. My guess is that's why they don't show any.


kalsta said:
My fear is that Apple has set image processing to produce photos that look punchy on screen, but in so doing have sacrificed detail in the highlights. That would be a real shame for what looks to be amazing optical hardware by consumer standards.
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I agree, they punched up the processing. Optics wise though, I'm not really that impressed. Distortion or lack of is good but the bokeh present shows the weakness of the optics for sure.

apu1234 said:
Why do you want to crop the photo before taking the shot? If the image sensor is 4:3 it doesn't make a difference whether you crop it before or after taking the shot.
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Exactly. Leave the 4:3 Ratio and crop afterwards. It's especially handy for when you decide to crop a landscape shot into a portrait. Evey pixel counts at that point and I'd rather have a taller image to work with.
 
Well, in my opinion, please consider this is a camera on a telephone... (main function is to communicate)
Given credit that apple effort to spesifically design special cmos and include HDR in a smartphone cam I think is already a good starting point...

I think if the purpose is to take more professional quality photos seriously (TIFF, RAW), of course the options is better to get separate dedicated good DSLR camera with several sets of good quality lens.

We may still not in the era to have all the best gadgets capability in only one small device...even I believe some vendors will try to produce tons of additional attachable lens conversion kit for the wider / tele angled like they did with the 4...
 
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