If they wanted a change just for the heck of the change, they should consider implementing usb-c instead of lighting connector. I bet if this was usb-c port people would be like 10x less upset, but removing the port that is standard around to world with something that only Apple and few selected companies does so something soo basic as a headphones, it is just stupid idea.
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Fully Functional iPhone 7 Lightning EarPods Shown Off in New Video
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I'm aware it's here now. I'm just not going to whine about removing 3.5 since it isn't that big a deal especially for my demographic of 18-30Wireless is here now. Hilarious that people are looking forward to iPhone 7 to utilise itha ha ha
If only there was a way to have wireless BT audio and 3.5mm jack now.....
I mentioned it to my younger brother who is 13 and he was like it doesn't matter. That's why my headphones are wireless lmao. Many people will care. Many people won't. Eventually if Apple does it right people will stop whining and deal. If I do switch back to windows 10 mobile exclusively I kinda hope Microsoft does the same and remove the jack. And you know if it's successful Samsung will copy Apple lmao.
This would actually keep me from getting the iPhone7. The battery life has never been all that great on iPhones to begin with and I can not count the times I have been listening to music and had to have my phone on a charger at the same time.
I tolerate the poor battery life now because at least I can charge while listening or watching video but if there is no way to do that then I might as well switch to a different platform.
I tolerate the poor battery life now because at least I can charge while listening or watching video but if there is no way to do that then I might as well switch to a different platform.
I will say that this may back fire for Apple.
What is the purpose of the removal of the headphone jack?
Fully water proof ? If not I will say that this is just a method for Apple to make a $ grab
What is the purpose of the removal of the headphone jack?
Fully water proof ? If not I will say that this is just a method for Apple to make a $ grab
Full steam back into the past. And the faithful believers hop on board for the ride.
Phones with proprietary headphone connectors.
The year 2000 called.
Phones with proprietary headphone connectors.
The year 2000 called.
It's simple, people will listen less music on the iPhone 7, the attach rate for Apple Music in the iPhone 7 will go down.
Someone else called him out on that and he promptly released a video in which the whole cable was in frame, and he was pushing all of the buttons, etc...
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Sure, there will be an adapter sold separately for that... probably about $49.95. See rMB adapter to split the USB3 port so it can be used for select other things while also being used for charging. Complete genius (if you ask some
). Apple knows how to make adapters... and profit from adapters. No problem.Besides, this change will not only yield an even "thinner & lighter" phone but an even thinner & lighter wallet too. And no, when it comes to "lighter" claims, Apple doesn't count the adapter's weight for stuff that used to come INSIDE of Apple hardware... so none of us can count it either... even if some of us pretty much MUST buy- and carry- the adapter(s) to make good use of the hardware similar to how we do now (example: using one set of wired headphones between iDevices and Macs... and every other audio device we encounter).
If Apple next decides to eject the battery and/or camera to accessory (sold separately) items, that will be genius too, embracing "the future", getting rid of the "antiquated", and not count in the "lighter" claims either
. Of course, ejecting even more ubiquitous utility won't cut the price of the phone- just as it won't with this next phone. Instead, we still pay just as much for less consumer utility. And at least 10 guys will tell us why it is the one and only right way to go for ALL of us... and/or we're stupid for not wanting anything from Apple exactly as Apple decides it wants to package it. Why? Because rule #1: Apple is always right. Don't "think different" unless your own "different" aligns with what Apple has for sale now or is bringing to market soon.I wish Apple would make the next iPhone out of razor blades just so I can watch the usual culprits spin the merits of more rapidly turning over our own blood supplies, and spurring on innovation in chainmail clothing (especially pockets)
Joking: yes... but barely. You know if Apple DID do that there would be at least 10 guys spinning it as genius as hard as they can... probably the same 10+ arguing so passionately for the merits of this change though it will apparently do nothing for them (because they can/are already hooked up via Bluetooth or Lightning) yet it (at least) inconveniences their fellow consumers in meaningful, tangible ways... for basically no obvious consumer gain. Why do they do that when it has no effect on them either way? See rule #1.
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LOOKS SO CHUNKY!
I would much preferred Apple to have repurposed the 3.5mm to include traditional audio and additional lightning functionality such as charging. It could have moved us forward and kept compatibility with the 3.5mm standard which is almost contained in every audio visual device.
This is not like the removal of the floppy drive. Floppy drives weren't built into almost every electronics device.
I would much preferred Apple to have repurposed the 3.5mm to include traditional audio and additional lightning functionality such as charging. It could have moved us forward and kept compatibility with the 3.5mm standard which is almost contained in every audio visual device.
This is not like the removal of the floppy drive. Floppy drives weren't built into almost every electronics device.
Really? You guys think you're the first to notice this potential problem?
Or do you just think Apple noticed, and decided to just screw the customer rather than to come up with a way to address it?
I seriously can't believe of all the potential problems that are discussed with respect to this rumored change, this one keeps coming up.
The simplest solution to this problem was figured out the first time somebody tried to decorate a Christmas tree with strings of electric lights and needed to add more to the same outlet.
At least if you're going to bring it up, discuss it intelegently.
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You mean like the iPod Shuffle? You can't listen and charge at the same time with that solution. Also can you imagine the 9 pole connector? That might be possible if they doubled the length ... (Probably wouldn't work for Lightning 2 with its 17 conductors). The new Apple TRRRRRRS plug! All hail 21st century technology.
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It wouldn't need to be a 9 pole connector for the lightning functionality, nor longer either. There are many other ways.
All for progress here, but if it isn't an open standard, then they (Apple) have really lost the plot on this one.
Why would Apple want to encourage users to continue to use their old audio equipment, and continue to invest in cheaper 3.5mm equipment? That only encourages continuation of the existing industry, rather than creating demand for wireless and digital headphones, which in turn creates competition, innovation, quality improvements, and drives the cost down so as to be indistinguishable from 3.5mm devices to the average customer in a few years time?
So instead of just buying an adapter to use my old headphones with aligning, I now have to throw out my investment in 4 years of accumulated Lightning cable and accessories, invest in a whole new set of USB-C cables and accessories, AND buy an adapter to use my old headphones only on a Apple devices since almost no one else has implemented USB-C yet? Especially considering that by the time USB-C achieves a critical mass in the marketplace, wireless may well have taken over entirely for mobile devices.
Good plan.
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Oh please do elaborate on the advanced engineering you propose then. How foolish to even create a USB-C connector when they could have just implemented all 24-pins into a standard TRRS connector! How foolish all those engineers will feel when you explain how easy it is to do.
Apple will want to know this as well so they can allow the iPod Shuffle to charge and play music at the same time on this exact method you propose.
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That's not very "Apple-y".
Apple would have used the same size connector as the standard lightning cable and then housed the required electronics inside a slightly larger control-clicker higher up on the cord.
Agreed. If they replaced a universal standard with another better universal standard (USB C), then I think many people wouldn't mind. Instead, they are replacing a universal, open source standard with a proprietary one with royalty fees. To make matters worse, your expensive headphone replacements won't work on any computers, just your phone and tablet. I think people that do buy the iPhone 7 will just go straight to bluetooth because that, at least, is a universal standard.
It's tough to call something proprietary with 1 billion in existence. It's like saying the power plugs in Europe are proprietary because I can't use my standard 3 prong plug in them without an adapter.
And the "faithful believers" hyperbole much?
Yup. And in a few years the lighting port will be abandoned for yet again another new port, while the adapters, dongles, and proprietary ear buds pile up. I'm usually fine with new data ports that come along with a smaller form factor and increased speed, but this idea of nixing an industry standard analog jack is simply going to make much of my iphone usage a real hassle. Running a 3.5mm cable from my phone to a PA or home audio system while simultaneously charging is something I do on a weekly basis, if not daily.
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Over the past few weeks, images have claimed to show Apple's upcoming Lightning-enabled EarPods, but most were found to be fake as the design language of the headphones largely deviated from Apple's usual aesthetic, especially in regards to not having a thin, rectangular Lightning plug. Today, MobileFun posted a video of a working pair of Lightning EarPods, and the overall look of the accessory appears more in line with Apple's design than any of the previous leaks.
As is expected, the headphone part of the new EarPods is structured the same as the EarPods currently being sold by Apple, with a clean, white design, right and left markers on each earpiece, and in-line volume and play/pause controls. Interestingly, the in-line controls are placed farther down on the EarPods, directly below the right/left split in the cable design. If real, this would mark a design change from the current generation, which places the volume rocker along the right cable, above the bifurcation in the cord.
The most notable part is, of course, the long-rumored addition of the Lightning plug onto the EarPods, adapted to take advantage of the removal of the 3.5 mm headphone jack from the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The plug on the Lightning-enabled EarPods appears slightly bigger than Apple's traditional Lightning adapters thanks to the inclusion of a digital-to-analog converter needed for music playback and not just straightforward charging.
In the video, the EarPods are proven to be completely functional through the playing of a few songs as well as using the in-line controls to play, pause, and skip some tracks. MobileFun concluded to its viewers, "as you can see, these are fully working, they aren't just a mock-up of what you might receive," believing that the working headphones will be what Apple sells alongside the new generation of iPhone in September.
Multiple solutions for the removal of the 3.5 mm headphone jack have sprouted up over the past few weeks, with one of the most prevailing alternatives centering around a Lightning to 3.5 mm dongle that the company could potentially bundle into the box of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus to cushion the transition for customers. More recently, it was reported that Apple could be working on completely wireless "AirPods" as an option for iPhone users, allowing simultaneous iPhone charging and headphone music playback, which is one of the most commonly occurring grievances surrounding the loss of the 3.5 mm headphone jack.
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That tiny lighting jack will fit nicely in my pocket. I'm sure with heavy use it won't break either. #extremesarcasm
Yay! Finally I am going to have to wait for the thing is charged before I can listen to a podcast.
This will be purely a money play. While I am not against a company wanting to make money, being complete buttholes, I am against.
Okay great argument. If Apple engineers can't do it then it must be totally impossible. Right...
Actually, what I've seen is a rush to buy current iPhone models at one of my primary work locations (in this case a school). Just like there was a rush to buy the real MacPros when the idiotic model was announced, and just like when there was a rush to buy good Mac Minis when the freshly crippled model was announced. You've got to hand it to a company when they can go from making new software and devices that people await with baited breath to making new software and devices that people await with dread. That's falling hard and fast.