Fun with the highest-resolution LCDs of the late 1990s (previously "World's largest consumer computer LCD... in 1999")

[Amethyst1]

So today while playing with it some more, I noticed this:

I don't remember having noticed this line before (and am confident I would have noticed it) - it's only like that just after the display has turned on but gradually starts to become less and less noticeable after a couple of minutes until it's virtually invisible. I also noticed a faint buzzing sound if the backlight is set to lower than three ticks below maximum.

I also tested how low I can go in terms of refresh rate or pixel clock. 1600×1024 at 57 Hz (105.5 MHz using CVT-RB timings) it is, anything lower and I get a black screen with the LED flashing amber.

Update 2021.08.24: Well, what do you know - fired it up today and no red line.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Why is it in German ? Are you from Germany ? I thought you were American

 

[Amethyst1]

Are you from Germany ?

Yes.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Yes.

I didn’t know that.. Guten Tag.

 

[BronzeLight]

Nice find! I'm running a 2003 20 cinema as my second monitor on my win10 daily driver! Only downsides is that it picks up a bit yellow tint when running on windows and mild image retention when I have a bright window active in one place for to long! https://everymac.com/monitors/apple/studio_cinema/specs/apple_cinema_display_20.html

 

[theMarble]

I completely forgot that Apple even made a DVI Acrylic Display. I have a 17" ADC and I've always thought they were all ADC.

That power brick looks like the iBook G3's yo-yo power brick cousin

 

[Amethyst1]

I completely forgot that Apple even made a DVI Acrylic Display.

It was only sold for like six months so easy to forget.

That power brick looks like the iBook G3's yo-yo power brick cousin

Yeah, sure does.

 

[originaldotexe]

i just picked up one of these for $24 at goodwill, but no power supply and the eBay scalpers want $70-$100 for them. anyone know if there is a third party power supply that will work, or somewhere i can get an original for a less stupid price?

thank you!

 

[theMarble]

anyone know if there is a third party power supply that will work, or somewhere i can get an original for a less stupid price?

From my quick bit of research, there don't seem to be any third-party/clone power adapters for the 22" Cinema Display these days.

The only realisitic option these days is to keep looking out for cheap originals. The power plug is propertiary so no standard adapter will work.

 

[LightBulbFun]

i just picked up one of these for $24 at goodwill, but no power supply and the eBay scalpers want $70-$100 for them. anyone know if there is a third party power supply that will work, or somewhere i can get an original for a less stupid price?

thank you!

From my quick bit of research, there don't seem to be any third-party/clone power adapters for the 22" Cinema Display these days.

The only realisitic option these days is to keep looking out for cheap originals. The power plug is propertiary so no standard adapter will work.

its just 16V 3.875A DC power supply. with a standard 3 pin Mini DIN connector for the output

DIN Snap and Lock Power Connectors | Competitive Prices | MPSI

Our DIN Snap and Lock Power Connectors are available shielded or unshielded and in horizontal 90° or vertical (4-way only) mount orientation.

mpsiconnex.com

so if you dont mind going a bit DIY would not be impossible and probably quite easy to knock together your own power supply

 

[originaldotexe]

its just 16V 3.875A DC power supply. with a standard 3 pin Mini DIN connector for the output

DIN Snap and Lock Power Connectors | Competitive Prices | MPSI

Our DIN Snap and Lock Power Connectors are available shielded or unshielded and in horizontal 90° or vertical (4-way only) mount orientation.

mpsiconnex.com

so if you dont mind going a bit DIY would not be impossible and probably quite easy to knock together your own power supply

awesome, do you think something like this will work (taking this power supply and soldering the connector onto it)?:

16V 4A Adapter Charger Power Supply For Sony Vaio PCG-321A PCG-322B PCG-325A US | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 16V 4A Adapter Charger Power Supply For Sony Vaio PCG-321A PCG-322B PCG-325A US at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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MINI Female DIN Connector Inline Cable Mount 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 Pin EML 9mm | eBay

Inline cable mount. 1 each genuine PhilmoreFEMALE mini din connector. Gender: Female. Lot Size: 1 connector. Location: Roll Up Row1, SH2. Unless otherwise stated, there is no warranty on battery condition or expected length of service.

www.ebay.com

 

[LightBulbFun]

awesome, do you think something like this will work (taking this power supply and soldering the connector onto it)?:

16V 4A Adapter Charger Power Supply For Sony Vaio PCG-321A PCG-322B PCG-325A US | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 16V 4A Adapter Charger Power Supply For Sony Vaio PCG-321A PCG-322B PCG-325A US at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

MINI Female DIN Connector Inline Cable Mount 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 Pin EML 9mm | eBay

Inline cable mount. 1 each genuine PhilmoreFEMALE mini din connector. Gender: Female. Lot Size: 1 connector. Location: Roll Up Row1, SH2. Unless otherwise stated, there is no warranty on battery condition or expected length of service.

www.ebay.com

well that Power supply is a cheap nasty knock off POS, I would not use it at all for anything, and that connector you show looks to be a full sized DIN connector rather then a mini DIN connector

but otherwise yeah thats the idea LOL

 

[originaldotexe]

well that Power supply is a cheap nasty knock off POS, I would not use it at all for anything, and that connector you show looks to be a full sized DIN connector rather then a mini DIN connector

but otherwise yeah thats the idea LOL

well, it seems that the mini din connectors are kind of hard to come by. do you know where i could get one without paying an arm & a leg (or buying in bulk)?

 

[LightBulbFun]

well, it seems that the mini din connectors are kind of hard to come by. do you know where i could get one without paying an arm & a leg (or buying in bulk)?

something like this should do the trick

2PCS Computer DIN 3 Mini Pin Female S-video Adapter Socket Connecting Connector | eBay

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[m1maverick]

something like this should do the trick

2PCS Computer DIN 3 Mini Pin Female S-video Adapter Socket Connecting Connector | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 2PCS Computer DIN 3 Mini Pin Female S-video Adapter Socket Connecting Connector at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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It looks as if he needs the male connector.

 

[Amethyst1]

It looks as if he needs the male connector.

The male connector is on one of the display’s three cables (DVI, power, USB). The power supply needs to have the female connector.

 

[m1maverick]

The male connector is on one of the display’s three cables (DVI, power, USB). The power supply needs to have the female connector.

Ah, I thought the pic was of the display and not the power adapter.

 

[Amethyst1]

I also wonder if the DVI version of the 15" Studio Display, announced on December 2th, 1999 along with the ATI Rage 128 Pro DVI, ended up being available earlier than the 22", possibly making this one the first DVI LCD to make it to users.

Having found a listing [not mine!!!] for a DVI Studio Display which was made in week 46, i.e. November 15th...21st, of 1999 according to its serial number (CY946xxxxxx), I suppose it probably was the first DVI LCD to make it to users.

 

[Amethyst1]

Having found a listing [not mine!!!] for a DVI Studio Display which was made in week 46, i.e. November 15th...21st, of 1999 according to its serial number (CY946xxxxxx), I suppose it probably was the first DVI LCD to make it to users.

I found another listing [not mine!]. Made in week 44 (November 1st...7th) of 1999. Now I really wanna know when the first DVI Studio Display was made!

 

[B S Magnet]

I found another listing [not mine!]. Made in week 44 (November 1st...7th) of 1999. Now I really wanna know when the first DVI Studio Display was made!

Has anyone told you lately how you’re a nerd?

 

[Amethyst1]

Has anyone told you lately how you’re a nerd?

Aren't we all nerds, in the most positive sense of the word?

 

[mectojic]

Gotta stop looking at these beautiful Graphite studio displays, or else I'll get one 😂

While the DVI displays could've been manufactured as early as Oct 1999, perhaps they weren't shipped until the DVI AGP Rage cards were shipping too?

I love these discussions lol. I have this weird sentimentality to get my hands on the cutting edge, best tech ever made from last century. Having a G4/450 with a crisp DVI Cinema Display in late 1999 must've felt years ahead of the curve.

 

[B S Magnet]

While the DVI displays could've been manufactured as early as Oct 1999, perhaps they weren't shipped until the DVI AGP Rage cards were shipping too?

If one considers that product be available on release day, there’s going to be a weeks-long manufacturing lead-up to building up stocks worldwide.

I love these discussions lol. I have this weird sentimentality to get my hands on the cutting edge, best tech ever made from last century. Having a G4/450 with a crisp DVI Cinema Display in late 1999 must've felt years ahead of the curve.

This is why I celebrate the best of last century with my September 2000 iBook G3 — because, after all, the 21st century didn’t arrive until 2001!

 

[mectojic]

This is why I celebrate the best of last century with my September 2000 iBook G3 — because, after all, the 21st century didn’t arrive until 2001!

Can't argue with that! I felt like the Cube was the end of an era, but I s'pose the Lime Clamshell is still a gasp of bright colour before the 21st century really hit

 

[Amethyst1]

While the DVI displays could've been manufactured as early as Oct 1999, perhaps they weren't shipped until the DVI AGP Rage cards were shipping too?

It still have been the first DVI display to ship, since the 22" didn't ship until early 2000 AFAICS, and other manufacturers didn't ship DVI displays until early 2000 either.