9th Gen and 10th Gen H series chips are basically identical anyways. You aren’t missing much. No process shrink, no iGPU upgrade, slightly higher boost clock, which just means more heat.
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Future Apple Silicon Macs Rumored to Include Redesigned 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro, 24-Inch iMac, and Smaller Mac Pro
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9th Gen and 10th Gen H series chips are basically identical anyways. You aren’t missing much. No process shrink, no iGPU upgrade, slightly higher boost clock, which just means more heat.
I really want this to happen Q1 16" with Tiger Lake H, my 2012 retina has been on it's last legs for a while but I wanna hold off in hopes of this.
I doubt they manufacture separate chips, rather have a single m1 line, and chips with faulty gpu become 7 core gpu models, and chips with faulty memory become 8 gig models. But some of it will be manufactured perfectly, and later disabled in the silicon or via the firmware to meet demand. I had AMD chips sold as single core, but with some luck you could unlock the second core in BIOS. And the same delivery time of 16 gig models suggests that maybe it's done in the firmware.
I would wait a minimum of 3 months. Find out what problems this original trio of M1 series processors have and what software problems there are. If nothing you hear scares you go ahead and buy a MacBook if it does what you want. But make sure it can really run the programs you intend to use and has the ports to talk to the devices you need to connect to.
Personally I’m waiting.
If it will be about managers keeping their fancy Mac's, they'll suddenly realize the company doesn't need so strict policies
"Obsolete products are those whose sales were discontinued more than 7 years ago. "
Trashcan's production started in 2013 and was discontinued on December 10th 2019. Which means it will be obsolete in 6 years. Mac Pro 7,1 just started selling. Do the math.
I imagine it is done how they do it with the A-Series CPUs, which have access to different RAM amounts depending on the model of device and model of SoC. An example is 3GB/4GB of LPDDR4X on iPhone 11 with the A12 and 6GB with the iPad Pro and A12x/A12z.
So I expect there are two M1s - one paired with 8GB and one with 16GB.
EDIT: Just finished watching the event and you can clearly see the DRAM modules are outside of the M1 SoC on the systemboards. So Apple will be making two system-boards: one with 8GB and one with 16GB. This also means future M-series SoCs will be able to support higher memory capacities.
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I'm happy with its current webcam, though would prefer worse. Frankly, no one needs to see my ugly face in HD. 🤡
While the future of Intel support is a legitimate issue, I doubt that Apple is preoccupied with supporting Hackintosh.
14” MacBook Pro future buyers where you at?
That's probably what I need is a 14 inch, eh possibly a 16 inch tho that's getting a bit too big for me. I like when it's on my desk but the more I start to get mobile with it the more I feel like it's too much. I would appreciate the power it can put out but this 2016 MBP I wanna upgrade from is still technically doing all I need it to be albeit a lil slower than before. I think the 13 inch MBP may actually be powerful enough these days, a huge leap from the previous quad core 13 inch line, 16 almost feels like i'd be greeding.
Also after years with only a laptop my neck is in bad shape, may switch back to an external monitor setup soon anyways...13 may be perfect for that
Also after years with only a laptop my neck is in bad shape, may switch back to an external monitor setup soon anyways...13 may be perfect for that
I have the feeling that those new generation Macs that are coming next year will be pricely. Mini-Led isn't going to be cheap. Though M-chip will be cheaper other components can make it above what is sold now.
I'll opt for the 16" if they can trim some weight off it (ideally would like to see it back at 4 lbs or slightly under). Otherwise I'll be snagging one of those redesigned mini-LED 14" Pros! Just hope they have ProMotion.
yess please
I’ve been waiting since last year for an updated 16” with intel but now am too scared to get one and then hear 15 days later a new ones released by surprise and I can’t replace it
Not with these cores, they are the fastest cores on any CPU and likely twice as fast as the cores on an Intel 24 core CPU.
To that end, they are also enormous, so while Apple will certainly release a version with more than 8 Firestorm cores, the question is how long it will take for them to build a SOC with enough transistors to support 8+ Firestorm and 64 or 128 Gb of RAM.
And Apple had to make the 13 inch MBP heavier and thicker to support the additional battery and cooling required for Ice Lake, I shudder to think how much more would be required to support Tiger Lake.
Why can't people just be happy that Apple released something much faster than Intels best, even with its introductory limits. This means fairly soon the 16 inch MBP is going to get a better version of the M1 that's even faster, and supports more RAM and ports while greatly extending it's battery life.
What is your proof that these are the fastest cores on any CPU? Not even apple has made that claim, the closest thing they came to say anything about speed was saying it had a better performance to power ratio and the fact they didn't mention any specific CPU is rather telling.
AI upscaling alas something similar to Nvidia's DLSS (even tho they call it super sampling, it's actuall upscaling). For those who haven't seen it, before talking crap (as I see many downvoted you), take a look at what AI can do upscaling from ridiculous 240p or 360p to 720 or 1080p:
A 720p camera with a decent dynamic range plus good AI upscaling and no one will be able to distinguish it from 1080. So why bother? Oh yeah, people must complain about something or they ain't happy