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:apple:phone is NOT a "Mac".

Exactly. These portable, multi-touch, (soon to be voice), wireless, OSX lite based CPU's are "Apple Tablets". Nano, not nano, and other form factors. But a new OS and a new user paradigm.

Not Macs, which are at their heart desktop computers. Even the portable ones are multi-purpose "PC's".

This new class of device of which the "iPhone" is one, is "not a Mac", but most certainly has much heritage from Macs.

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ThinkSecret points to a new job description at Apple which is recruiting for a "Manager of Mobile Mac Architecture". The job description is as follows:



The job description could easily relate to existing Mac laptop projects, such as the Macbook and Macbook Pro, however, ThinkSecret has been led to believe that this position is "with a team working on a new line of Macs."

There have been persistent rumors that Apple is actively pursuing a sub-notebook form factors and patent applications showing further attempts at miniaturization.

Finally, Apple's announcement of the iPhone with its "Touch OS X" has led many to speculate that this touch-enabled version of OS X could find its way into new mobile Mac solutions -- but this remains entirely speculative.

If it was dealing with the current line then the person currently in charge either left, was fired, or is not trusted with the new changes. So I can only assume this is something new, like the rumored sub-notebook and or the tablet.

Where there is smoke, there is ussualy a fire.
 
Uh, no it doesn't. Go back and read the job listing again.

I stand corrected, it says "expected to have a working knowledge of all sub-modules
that are integrated into the computer and their development
roadmaps and future directions. This includes all hardware
sub-components,".

But IMHO it is a sub-notebook of some kind.
 
Thus far there have been very few ( if any ) , especially smartphones that have been able to better the Psion 5.

Any Apple can - or maybe not.

Psion 5 plus cell phone capabilities - killer - nothing to touch it.
 
One thing that is NOT entirely speculative is they didnt develop Multi-touch for use with one product.
 
I don't know if I can believe this. Apple will most likely keep to it's two lines of portables, but add a subnotebook onto the MBP series. As for the touch screen stuff, it will most likely just make its way into new versions of the ipod in the near future.

But for the job posting, I think it is only for current portable team enhancement.
 
It sounds more like a re-organizing/re-emphasis to me, which would include MacBooks rather than replacing them or being a totally separate line.

Maybe - then again, maybe that's been the division name all along? I see no reason why there couldn't be a division that focuses on the 'mobile' experience - whether it's iPods, iPhone, MacBooks, etc.

It's good evolution in a company to take 2 different lines and make a division that bridges those lines.. to get some creative juices swapping between. And then once people get stuck in their ways, separate the lines again.

Anyway, if it was just MacBooks and MBPs, they'd call it the MacBook division, wouldn't they?
 
I don't think Apple developed the Multi-touch platform. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I think they didn't develope all of it, buy they refine a concept they bought from fingerworks.
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I really think this is the future UI of computing. They could sell, as soon as the thing is less expensive (well is it??) new apple Display with the tech built in, the display should be orientable to become a "table". built the software part in a future OS (leopard or the next one, depending of the stage of developement); the finder should be redone, then, application by application, you could enhence the UI. you can apply the next UI to existing apple Hardware , all of them having an extern monitor port.
Build then, or before, iMac with multitouch, macbook&pro..
subnotebook could be first (does the price goes up tremendously with the size of the screen??)
what do you guys think??
 
With the mobile market soaring like it is, a tablet or subnotebook seems to make sense. We have already seen the mini multitouch mac tablet with the iphone, a larger version ( 10" or so) seems likely. The touch interface has been developed and scaling it up to larger forms seems a natural progression.

The notebooks, imacs and cinema displays all seem ready for hardware changes, could touchscreen be involved? Could multitouch be one of the secret Leapard features? ( could they hold something that integral from developers?) If so, it might explain the recent lack of new mac hardware everyone is complaining about, and we'll see nothing new until Leapard is ready to roll out.
 
One thing that is NOT entirely speculative is they didnt develop Multi-touch for use with one product.

Aside from the fact that Apple didn't develop multitouch, but they have a product using it, I think this is quite the case.

There have been successive steps taken through various patent filings, the iPhone product introduction, job postings, etc. that all point toward a particular product development roadmap that began with iPhone.

But iPhone is just the beginning. It now appears that an entire class of devices are being planned, from PDA/phones to tablet PCs, that would all likely incorporate multitouch.

I spoke with a former Apple Engineer and he wasn't surprised. He noted that Apple will typically put out a feeler product like iPhone and then send their customer engineers to get feedback on the device to identify what the public likes, dislikes, wants, doesn't need, etc. and then wrap their industrial design around that feedback while in the prototype stage for products that harness more of the technologies they tested with the "feeler" products, on a grander scale.

One can trace the immediate evolution of Apple's use of capacitance sensors to the 2nd generation iPod (for those who forget, the very first had a physical scrollwheel that rotated), and through the new mouse (I checked, it's got to be capacitance sensing because only skin contact triggers the buttons)...

The iPhone is the first full product built around this type of user input... and there are more to come. Surely, just as my friend was suggesting Apple's probably already testing prototypes of a multitouch UI and a multitouch Mac, patent filings emerged which suggested precisely that direction.

How long will it be? Under Steve Jobs' direction, Apple's product development cycles have been typically 2-3 years... that is, two to three years from concept to market. Yes, that fast...

Let's face it, Apple does not rest on their laurels waiting for anyone to catch up. The analysts thought Apple was going to have a tough road getting Intel Macs out within a year because they were estimating it would take an additional two to five years before Apple's OS would be developed to run on Intel. Lo and behold Apple stunned the analysts when announcing that all versions of OS X since 10.1 were already written as dual binaries. That means Apple's product development was FIVE YEARS ahead of the analysts expectations. That's humongous in terms of the computing industry.

So, here we are thinking what's Apple going to do next. Well, it should be obvious they've been thinking about that for several years already. By the time the Cingular talks started, the sketches were probably going up on the drawing board for the next product... and if they're filing patents now that means they've got working prototypes that they can no longer protect from intelligence leaks. That's about the time Apple files its patents for anyone who's been paying attention.

So, where are we headed from here? I think multitouch opens up some fantastic doors to degrees and axes of input that we haven't even thought of yet... and dimensions of feedback that parallel real-world object interaction as closely as possible in a two-dimensional space. I think we'll see in three years time an interface as fundamentally intuitive as the multitouch UI of the Pre-Crime computer in "Minority Report". No, I don't mean standing up in front of a huge transparent screen getting tired by waving your arms about all day... but the same basic type of gesturing, interaction and hierarchical organization with fluid graphics and animations.

And if you think that's unrealistic then you're giving my imagination and intuition more credit than Jony Ive's.
 
One thing that is NOT entirely speculative is they didnt develop Multi-touch for use with one product.

Agreed. But it seems like the iPhone isn’t their first device with multi-touch anyway. Trackpad scrolling was there all the way back to PowerBook and iBook lines.

But yes, it would seem that we’ll be seeing more multi-touch. To me though, it’s a question of how much. Will multi-touch be a primary way that a user interacts with the device or will its role be more limited, like a user only uses it under certain circumstances, can it be turned off?

In addition, where will it be in terms of software? Will the benefits of multi-touch be maximized throughout the OS or not?
 
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