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G5 box design: step backward

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elmimmo

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Am I the only one that, besides any aesthetic consideration, thinks that the new design is a step backward.

My main concern is what (being a Windows user) I admired more of a G3/G4 case: the absolute tidyness and accessibility of a "drop down motherboard". The way how drives and PCI cards stayed on one place (inside the case) and how the on-board stuff on another (in the completely open ouside of it). Nowhere I have seen that the G5 case opens the same way. in fact it seems (internally) quite the same as my now aging (now? :) ) Pentium 233 where you just pop out a lateral of it and start longing for longer fingers.

A minor but is also the lack of space for a second 5 1/4" bay. Or did I miss it?
 
I agree and disagree with your thoughts on the subject. I hold off on bashing the case design untill I see it in real life, and try to add ram and another hard drive, it's probably not that hard to work on.

P.S. the one optical drive bay does kind of suck, but I don't remeber that last time I copied a CD from one drive to the other, that's just me.
 
well, we'll find out when we see it. Replacing a part like the logic board looks like it will take an hour. Not very serviceable, from what i can glean from the pics.
 
There is another thread on this topic.

The case is maybe a little smaller than the current PMs?

BTW, is it just me, or is Apple deliberately not showing any mouse, keyboard or display on any of its pages relating to the G5 system?
 
I seriously hate the tiny holes texture in the front.

It's so unattractive. I might have to drape a towel on it once I buy it.
 
it is a sterile looking design, the machines are going to rock! but it looks are not. 1984 is upon us and has taken over apple computer. It is growing on me, but i love the clear look. Well maybe the latest statements from apple about motorola means faster g4's for the upgrade market? and the consumer line now that the pro line starts at 1.6 970. any ideas what the next imac will be? 1.25? 1.42?
 
Originally posted by cubist
There is another thread on this topic.

The case is maybe a little smaller than the current PMs?

BTW, is it just me, or is Apple deliberately not showing any mouse, keyboard or display on any of its pages relating to the G5 system?
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What I'm even more interested in is the fact that there are absolutely no pictures of the back of this machine. Even the Quicktime VR model stops before you see the back of it. Why can't we just see it?
 
i think they should have had brushed metal on the front, instead of the grill look. 1 drive sucks. 2 hard drives suck although you can get big sata hard drives. optical audio is badass, especially for audio people, makes it drool worth. front ports are nice. still my favorite thing of the day was new ichat and isight.

iJon
 
Originally posted by Jesus on OSX
I seriously hate the tiny holes texture in the front.

It's so unattractive. I might have to drape a towel on it once I buy it.
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You do understand the the holes are there to promote airflow for cooling, right? If you put a towel over it, you'll be able to bake cookies in the optical drive. Mmm... PowerCookies! :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by LimeLite
What I'm even more interested in is the fact that there are absolutely no pictures of the back of this machine. Even the Quicktime VR model stops before you see the back of it. Why can't we just see it?
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Huh? Right from Apple.com. Took me about 5 seconds to find it.
 
it appears that all the "picture" are just cheap photoshop images. i haven't actually seen a legitimate photo of the new powermacs except on thescreensavers last night. and believe me, the case looked hundreds of times better than the images online.
 
It is a bit odd at the lack of extra hard/optical drives - I'll wager that the next rev or two down the road we'll see them back again - also going to duals in all the PowerMac models when the G5 goes to the iMac.

And if they can pull out 3.0 GHz by next year that's going to crank....:D

D
 
The grill look is almost 100% due to airflow. It would look nice if it were uniform. The squares on the grill (ports, optical drive, PCIX holes, fans) really show bad design. If maybe the drives had little holes or it it were completely at the top, maybe...

It's just the break up of the uniform dots which make it look bad.
 
i like the enclosure. it's clean, post-modern, and i think it will age well.

regarding the inside:

i have 2 HDs in my g4 tower. i have no plans on putting in any more.

i have 1 optical drive. i have no plans on putting in another.

how many people here actually have more than 2 HDs and/or more than 1 optical drive?
 
Re: G5 box design: step backward

Originally posted by elmimmo
Am I the only one that, besides any aesthetic consideration, thinks that the new design is a step backward.

My main concern is what (being a Windows user) I admired more of a G3/G4 case: the absolute tidyness and accessibility of a "drop down motherboard". The way how drives and PCI cards stayed on one place (inside the case) and how the on-board stuff on another (in the completely open ouside of it). Nowhere I have seen that the G5 case opens the same way. in fact it seems (internally) quite the same as my now aging (now? :) ) Pentium 233 where you just pop out a lateral of it and start longing for longer fingers.

A minor but is also the lack of space for a second 5 1/4" bay. Or did I miss it?
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The thing is aesthewtically unappealing to me, and i think the lack of 2 optical drive spaces <5.25''> indicates Apple's mission statement of, guys do what we want you to. I am happy that now us mac users can enjoy much faster computers, but honestly, at the expense of what?
 
I disagree with all that hate this design, it's the best design yet. Take a look at the profiles, it's the cleanest design for the powermac, much more so than the bulky shiny plastic and cooling should be so much better now. Trust me it will grow n you and in a few years you will realize how dated the G4 design is/was. And to me it looks like everything will be quite easy to get to in the case.
 
Personally I love the new case.. its simple, elegant, clean... the cooling system is awesome, the front ports are awesome. Everything about it is great.

And furthermore, I would never use more than 500 gigs of hd space on my primary system.. if you need more than that, you probably have enough money to buy an Xserve raid, which is supported by the fibre channel card. also, I never need more than one optical drive. I realize that its nice to have a fast cd burner in addition to a dvd burner, but the superdrive is always getting better.

By no means would I call this a step back.
 
Originally posted by zimv20
i like the enclosure. it's clean, post-modern, and i think it will age well.

regarding the inside:

i have 2 HDs in my g4 tower. i have no plans on putting in any more.

i have 1 optical drive. i have no plans on putting in another.

how many people here actually have more than 2 HDs and/or more than 1 optical drive?
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I use 4 HDs and superdrive and Combo drive. In my opinion it is a step back in design and functionality.
 
It's what the first G4 should have looked like, so it's a step... sideways. I never liked the G3/G4 "bubble"... to ungainly and murder to have in a rack when using as a server. I'll wait to see one in person, but it lookes pretty cool to me.
 
Originally posted by LimeLite
What I'm even more interested in is the fact that there are absolutely no pictures of the back of this machine. Even the Quicktime VR model stops before you see the back of it. Why can't we just see it?
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well,
i thought the same at first so i understand your confusion.

but,
i've seen no pictures of the top, which bothers me because it looks like it could be that metal mesh stuff (which i like on the front and back)

number one rule of computer cases:
upward facing surfaces must be flat and uncomplicated

because,
dust looks horrible

that's the only problem i see with the mesh (on the front and back),
air is constantly moving through the front and back so LOTS of dust will get stuck there. sucks

but the abolute BEST thing about the case is the FLAT sides (Godsend!)
the g3 and g4 cases were awesome but the fact that the sides were curved really ruined the functionality of them for me. i cant imagine if all the insides didn't come out on the door so that you had to turn it over on its curved side (eeww!)
can you say "CRACK!!"?


i like the new case and i think it's cool that apple does major case revisions when they get new processors
 
Re: G5 box design: step backward

Originally posted by elmimmo
Am I the only one that, besides any aesthetic consideration, thinks that the new design is a step backward.

My main concern is what (being a Windows user) I admired more of a G3/G4 case: the absolute tidyness and accessibility of a "drop down motherboard". The way how drives and PCI cards stayed on one place (inside the case) and how the on-board stuff on another (in the completely open ouside of it). Nowhere I have seen that the G5 case opens the same way. in fact it seems (internally) quite the same as my now aging (now? :) ) Pentium 233 where you just pop out a lateral of it and start longing for longer fingers.

A minor but is also the lack of space for a second 5 1/4" bay. Or did I miss it?
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seeing as how i havent opened a G5 yet i couldnt give you my honest opinion.:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by macfreek57


that's the only problem i see with the mesh (on the front and back),
air is constantly moving through the front and back so LOTS of dust will get stuck there. sucks
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I was just thinking the same thing myself today. Just think about how much dust will get trapped on the components inside with all of that airflow.
 
Originally posted by Schiffi
The grill look is almost 100% due to airflow. It would look nice if it were uniform. The squares on the grill (ports, optical drive, PCIX holes, fans) really show bad design. If maybe the drives had little holes or it it were completely at the top, maybe...

It's just the break up of the uniform dots which make it look bad.
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it breaks up the uniformity of the back side of the computer? where all your cables are gonna be bunched up? am i hearing you right?
 
Remember...

The rumor that stated that there were two PowerMac models, the "222" and the "666" could this just be the 222, and later, when they hit 3.0, that 3.0 be the 666 with an additional drive bay and PCI-X slot? Just wondering, as it was mentioned before.
 
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