Thinksecret got the spec for the iMac that was supposed to be released back in January 2004. There is a lot of misinformation going to be spread between now and 8/31. Expect some huge surprises soon.
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G5 iMac Specs?
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ffakr said:
Uhhh. When you get older, you will learn not to be so finite in your statements. I have 2 kids in my house. One is almost 17 and the other is almost 11. We have an XBox and a Playstation and more games than my wife thinks is sane.
The iMac has served our purposes quite well for the past 5 years and we will most likely buy the new G5 iMac. Don't think we would ever let a PC see the light of day in this house...but then again, you just never know...but I doubt it... 🙂
unsigned said:
I agree with powermac666. Just because it has the ability to switch displays does not mean you will have a cable running up your wall or to some arm 20' away. Take a look at the new monitors (20", 23", & 30"), they all have the Vesa mounting option.
I truly don't believe these rumors. There is nothing new except a G5 processor. All-in-one computers don't sell. They haven't for a long time. Reason: They cost too much. Although the most recent imac is really nice, they're priced too high and Apple can't bring the price down.
I really want a mini tower with the monitor sold seperately. I believe Apple would/is making a big mistake if the rumors are right.
iJon
macrumors 604
this will never end. all in one computers don't sell. is that why they saved apple and they have been selling the hell out of them since 98. people love the design of the imac, they love how everything is one. they don't want a tower with cables and all that unecessary stuff. i still have customers wanting to buy the current imac, but i can't because this overpriced computer that no one buys is no longer available, cause apple ran out.bertagert said:
some people really need to realize what a true average consumer are. yes many of you are typical consumers, but the few of you who think this won't sell are wrong. these will sell as well as the current imacs.
iJon
intrepkid21 said:
heck, they could take a lcd or plasma tv and slap a mac behind it, add a wireless keyboard and mouse, along with a remotre control... not really in the imac price range, but a multimedia mac would kill!
Big letdown!!, Hope Not!!
Apple is in a corner, they dont want to include a better video card or larger hard drives or more memory than on the low end G5, and it is crippling the Imac, I was praying for a 128MB video option, or AGP port, Lager hard drives, geez 40GB, 80GB, 160 OPT. has Apple seen the low hard drive prices and increased capacity in the last for years, I think not.
256MB or ram is a joke, but the real question is with only two slots, if you want more do you have to dispose of installed ram(is it still pairs only.)
any pci or pc card slots, or is this imac closed. is the CPU soldered.
Having a nice monitor already, I was sure hoping for a screenless one, hopefully a hack will allow me to use my current one with this.
My guess is $999 for Education, $1299 as the base Imac has always been, I hope a superdrive is included.and $1799 for the 20".
I must wait two weeks but a refurb powermac seems like it is better for me, but its so big and not to cool looking, hiding under a desk.
I really liked the colored cube concept, Apple should hire those guys.
There is now no expandable mac under $2000. they are all totaly unupgradeable and closed. Hopefully this is Dated and Apple will increase the ram, video memory, hard drive sizes like dell. i would love to have 128MB video card, 200-400MB hard drive, and I am willing to pay fair prices for them.
as for ram, this is Apple biggest shortcoming with ther computers they are extremely stingy, even the $3000 dual G5 only comes with 512. I sure hope more than two slots if they have to be put in pairs (if not this is a scheme to make you pay outrages memory prices from Apple when buying, and 64 bit will need and use that 4GB+ram in the future, the imac g4 can already have 2GB)
Videoram is the second shortcoming, believe it or not consumers want to play the latest game and they will soon be needing 128MB min. hopefully this is optional, or Agp is included)
everyone knows how cheap hard drives are. Apple should allow BTO of larger hard drives, at real prices and give you credit for the one you deleted, the way they do it now is a rip off, you pay full retail for the optional drive, and dont get any credit for the deleted drive, should be illegal.
Okay I am done ranting, when I see it I may be in love, its this or a refurb G5, refurb dual G4, or an emac and keep my blue and white.
Apple is in a corner, they dont want to include a better video card or larger hard drives or more memory than on the low end G5, and it is crippling the Imac, I was praying for a 128MB video option, or AGP port, Lager hard drives, geez 40GB, 80GB, 160 OPT. has Apple seen the low hard drive prices and increased capacity in the last for years, I think not.
256MB or ram is a joke, but the real question is with only two slots, if you want more do you have to dispose of installed ram(is it still pairs only.)
any pci or pc card slots, or is this imac closed. is the CPU soldered.
Having a nice monitor already, I was sure hoping for a screenless one, hopefully a hack will allow me to use my current one with this.
My guess is $999 for Education, $1299 as the base Imac has always been, I hope a superdrive is included.and $1799 for the 20".
I must wait two weeks but a refurb powermac seems like it is better for me, but its so big and not to cool looking, hiding under a desk.
I really liked the colored cube concept, Apple should hire those guys.
There is now no expandable mac under $2000. they are all totaly unupgradeable and closed. Hopefully this is Dated and Apple will increase the ram, video memory, hard drive sizes like dell. i would love to have 128MB video card, 200-400MB hard drive, and I am willing to pay fair prices for them.
as for ram, this is Apple biggest shortcoming with ther computers they are extremely stingy, even the $3000 dual G5 only comes with 512. I sure hope more than two slots if they have to be put in pairs (if not this is a scheme to make you pay outrages memory prices from Apple when buying, and 64 bit will need and use that 4GB+ram in the future, the imac g4 can already have 2GB)
Videoram is the second shortcoming, believe it or not consumers want to play the latest game and they will soon be needing 128MB min. hopefully this is optional, or Agp is included)
everyone knows how cheap hard drives are. Apple should allow BTO of larger hard drives, at real prices and give you credit for the one you deleted, the way they do it now is a rip off, you pay full retail for the optional drive, and dont get any credit for the deleted drive, should be illegal.
Okay I am done ranting, when I see it I may be in love, its this or a refurb G5, refurb dual G4, or an emac and keep my blue and white.
Daveman Deluxe
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Still, I remember back when the CRT iMac came out and then when they started shipping standard with the then-bleeding-edge ATI Rage 128 Pro with 8 MB of VRAM. One of my friends was living in a fraternity at the time and he says that the guy down the hall just pissed everybody else off because he had an iMac... and the best graphics card in the house.
I think an upgradeable graphics card would be a very good thing for Apple to include. However, I don't think it would happen because of the fact that the monitor is part of the computer. As a result, retail graphics cards wouldn't work since they only connect to external monitors. Unless Apple connects the monitor internally via a short DVI cable. In that case, it would be a very good thing.
I think that the graphics cards in this projected lineup are fine, but I think it would be good to have the option to upgrade the high-end to at least an ATI Radeon 9600/NVIDIA GeForceFX 5700 with 128 MB VRAM. That'd be a decent gaming machine. Not awesome, but not too shabby either.
I think an upgradeable graphics card would be a very good thing for Apple to include. However, I don't think it would happen because of the fact that the monitor is part of the computer. As a result, retail graphics cards wouldn't work since they only connect to external monitors. Unless Apple connects the monitor internally via a short DVI cable. In that case, it would be a very good thing.
I think that the graphics cards in this projected lineup are fine, but I think it would be good to have the option to upgrade the high-end to at least an ATI Radeon 9600/NVIDIA GeForceFX 5700 with 128 MB VRAM. That'd be a decent gaming machine. Not awesome, but not too shabby either.
puckhead193
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zelmo
macrumors 603
iJon said:
Hey, I love my AIO iMac, even though I wish I had waited to buy until the larger displays were made available. That's why I think the next iMac will combine the best of both worlds: It will ship with either a 17 or 20 inch display that has a VESA mount, but will also ultimately ship without the display as well, to satisfy everyone who wishes for a lower cost Mac sans display. I don't think Ives would go for an ugly CPU-behind-the-monitor look, because it just isn't elegant enough. That is one design element that is a given - elegance. His track record indicates that he is always attempting to make you forget about the computer and focus on the visual aspects, so I think the base will have a smaller, lower profile foorprint than the current iMac, possibly three inches high, maybe six inches deep, and just as wide as it has to be. A decent size to provide counter-balance to the display, but small.
powermac666 said:
I agree that Ives focuses on the visual aspects. That is why I think everything (or as much as possible) will be combined with the screen. The last/current iMac appears to float if you put the screen low enough. Eliminating the dome would eliminate a tremendous amount of "clutter" for the user. I don't think you would see the back of the screen while using it.
And I trust that Ives and his team has come up with a very simple and elegant solution.
powermac666 said:
I surely hope so, why would i want a 17 or 20 lcd, when I may already have one to use, i dont want to ebay something i like for cheap, and the G5 is too big, oh well we'll have to wait and see. Maybe I will wait for rev 2 and keep the BW another 6 months.
MacinDoc
macrumors 68020
I doubt that even Apple would ship an iMac with all of the available RAM slots filled with 128 MB DIMMS. Either the iMac will have 4 RAM slots, or (more likely, IMO) the memory will not be dual bank and therefore DIMMS will not have to be installed in pairs. This will mean slower RAM access than the Power Macs have, but hopefully also a less expensive memory controller. In this scenario, I would expect 2 memory slots, with the first one filled with either a 256 MB or (hopefully, in the top model) a 512 MB DIMM.daveg5 said:
iJon said:
Since imacs have been selling like kicks to the crotch lately that doesnt say much.Apple needs a reality check.Consumers arent stupid.They will choose the better value over smoke and mirrors almost every time.
tex210 said:
here are some benchmarks from the two, of course in games the g5 would when, but not by much with those crappy cards.
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/emac125/
Now someone help!
does anyone know where there are benchmarks comparing the powermac G5 1.6 compared to the powerbook 1.5 G4 with 128MB Vram
The powerbook 15.2 may be the way to go, you only loose a little screen real estate, but gain portatability and it may not be slower on most things at all. for a few hundred more, taking up even less desk space. hmmm
cuneglasus said:
i disagree. why does domino's pizza sell a 14" "LARGE" pizza when most other places sell a 16" "large" pizza? call it "smoke and mirrors" or call it spin, it works. that's what advertising is all about. that's what fashion is. i'm no business or advertising guru, so maybe i'm way off; but i think most or many (NOT all) consumers are impulse consumers, easily convinced consumers, or buy-what-is-popular-or-pretty consumers. that's why the ipod is big; it's popular. not everyone who bought an ipod compared it to a rio or a nomad player before purchasing it.
joeboy_45101
macrumors 6502
if the number of positive/negative votes is an indication of how this Mac will be accepted then Apple is in deep doodoo. My main question is WHO exactly will this iMac be marketed to. The education market is definitely going to go with the eMac rather than the iMac, and if the institution needs the power of a 64-bit it would make more sense to go with a PowerMac G5. No consumer is going to be satisfied with this configuration(if it is true), because most people want the most bang for their buck and this iMac does not deliver. 🙁 I hope Apple can do better than this.
iJon
macrumors 604
once again this group of people do not account for the typical user base. the typical user base does not post on a mac site about rumors.joeboy_45101 said:
the reason this is so odd is cause no one doubted the fact that flat panel imacs were selling fine. so well that they ran out before expected. but then apple takes this computer, adds a g5 processor, SATA drive, probably an 8x burner, at the same price point. for some reason people thing since apple made a computer much better and kept it at the same price point they are doomed. these points are flawed.
i bet the majority of the people on this forum who are angry with these new specs are the same people who were angry with the soon to be old imacs. these people won't budge until the specs are up to par with their needs, and this puts these people in the "minority," not the typical consumer install base.
iJon