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G5 Waiting Discussion (again)

cool :cool: I know you will love it and you are spared our madness trying to figure out what the heck Apple is doing.:confused:
(edit) in reference to haccomic.com giving this all up and buying a 1.8 G5):)
 
10.3.3 Seed Vanished

The 10.3.3 seed has vanished from the Apple Developer's server for an unknown reason. This could mean something special or there may have been a critical problem with the update. But if it is getting all of this attention it must be one special update... As stated before, maybe Apple wants to get this just right for new G5 powermacs and G5 products (i.e. iMac or Powerbook). I am now optimistic that we will see an update this month (if 10.3.3 gets out soon).:D :)
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you're always waiting for the next best thing, you'll always be waiting. Buy the computer you need, when you need it, and you will NEVER be disappointed. And specifically with regard to the PowerMacs, is a DP 2.0 GHz really too slow for you? Sure, the 2.6 GHz (or whatever the new top end becomes) will be faster, but what do you really need? If you need more power than the 2.0 can deliver, then by all means, wait. But if you really don't need that extra 600 MHz, just buy your system and start enjoying it! It sounds like you've already bought $600 of hardware for it that's just sitting there, so you've already lost money by waiting. You could've bought those components for a little less by now, possibly, or at least put the money to better use in the interim.
 
This is a rumor site: Someone here is always looking for the next best thing. And someone will always be waiting for the next best thing. Your philosophy works for you, let the rest of us enjoy the speculation.
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Originally posted by ~Shard~
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you're always waiting for the next best thing, you'll always be waiting. Buy the computer you need, when you need it, and you will NEVER be disappointed.
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Not really true - there's a world of a difference between ordering the top-of-the range machine and having it so for 6 months, or buying the top-of-the-range machine and having it so for one week. Not to mention the likely price drop in the machine you just had delivered.

missing a speed bump by 1 week would really suck. Especially as Macs last longer in use than PCs. This is written on a 500mhz Pismo. If I had a Lombostreet or a Wallard then it wouldn't have lasted as long. I wanted a top-of-the-range at the time I ordered, I got one.

which is why I'd be really hacked off if my dual 2ghz arrived and the 2.6 (3.0, 2.4) was the top of the range the week after.
 
Re: Powermacs at release of 10.3.3?

Originally posted by invaLPsion
MacOSRumors now believes that 10.3.3 is being almost specifically made to address G5 issues and to be able to take advantage of the new technology in the new 90nm processor. Apple wants to get the 10.3.3 update out so it will ship with new powermacs at speeds up to 2.6GHz.

If you think about it, a lot of stuff has been going around about the size of this update and how big it will be for Panther. It is also possible that the reason the G5s have not been released is because the new update will greatly improve new G5 performance and Apple wants updated G5s to take advantage of this. IT ALL MAKES SENSE!:)
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MacOSRumors said it? Oh, ok, then I guess that means we can rule out at least ONE theory.
 
The longer the wait, the more I am encouraged that Apple is fixing the bugs found in the first generation of G5s, the new iLife, and Panther. Normally I would agree with the idea of "buy the computer when you need it" philosophy -- but in this case, if you really need a desktop now buy a dual G4, not a G5. The dual G4s appear to be rock solid -- unlike the G5s.

If you can wait, the new G5s may make all those G5 first adapters jealous. I think the new G5s will ship with 10.3.3 installed, new QuickTime installed, and a revised iLife4 suite. You'll also get a guitar to go with GarageBand. ;)

I continue to say . . . March for new G5s. (But I check here every day, just in case!)
 
1.8 w/1.5GB RAM for $1699 or wait?

Man, I'm about to freak out waiting for these G5 updates...
MacConnection now has a great deal going. A 1.8G5 with 1GB free extra RAM for $1699 after rebate. I'm tempted to jump on this right away, but I want it for Gaming so the next revision of G5's will surely have faster clock speeds at same or lower prices.

What do you guys think? I can wait, but it sure is nerve wreckin'!
 
Re: 1.8 w/1.5GB RAM for $1699 or wait?

Originally posted by neonart
Man, I'm about to freak out waiting for these G5 updates...
MacConnection now has a great deal going. A 1.8G5 with 1GB free extra RAM for $1699 after rebate. I'm tempted to jump on this right away, but I want it for Gaming so the next revision of G5's will surely have faster clock speeds at same or lower prices.

What do you guys think? I can wait, but it sure is nerve wreckin'!
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I want a G5 for gaming and editing as well. This is why I am very concerned about waiting for the next update because I want a gaming G5 that will last me for at least another 3 years. Do any of you think that a dual 1.8 would last that long?
 
Originally posted by PHARAOHk
Even if the updates are announced soon how long until they actually ship?
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This is one of the reasons I'm close to making the jump on a disc model, but on the flipside, if new machines get announced, you miss out on the price drop!
 
Revision b models are usually not announced until they are ready to ship or in store.

In the case of the June G5 announcement, this was a whole new model, so they announced a future ship date.

If Apple announces new speeds (even with a new chip), and continues to call them G5, then I would expect to be able to get these fairly quickly. And you're right, at that point the old models will drop in price immediately.

I've always bought the old model when new ones were announced in order to save $$. Right now, the best buy seems to be the single 1.8 G5 (along with the refurb dual 2.0 models on the Apple web site). But I want the new models this time.
 
I can state with absolute certainty that the new G5s will be released in 15 days.

Why? Well, my friend's family asked me about purchasing a G5 back in December, and I advised that he wait and see what revisions were released at or around Macworld. It is now Feb 4, and the waiting game is growing old, especially since it seems like the 90 nm processors are available right now to Apple, but Apple may be delaying the release for strategic timing or whatever. Bottom line is, today he decided to just go ahead and order the Dual 1.8. If I recall correctly, there is a 14 day grace period during which Apple will allow you to "trade up" to the new model for free (if a new model is released during that period), so therefore I'd have to guess that the new models will be released in 15 days.
 
Originally posted by macrumors12345
I can state with absolute certainty that the new G5s will be released in 15 days.

Why? Well, my friend's family asked me about purchasing a G5 back in December, and I advised that he wait and see what revisions were released at or around Macworld. It is now Feb 4, and the waiting game is growing old, especially since it seems like the 90 nm processors are available right now to Apple, but Apple may be delaying the release for strategic timing or whatever. Bottom line is, today he decided to just go ahead and order the Dual 1.8. If I recall correctly, there is a 14 day grace period during which Apple will allow you to "trade up" to the new model for free (if a new model is released during that period), so therefore I'd have to guess that the new models will be released in 15 days.
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As long as the machine hasn't entered production, or is still unopened.

One it ships AND gets opened, they sack you with a 10% restocking fee.
 
Does anyone have more educated guesses as to when the new G5s are coming out? I wish NeatGekko would give us some information, even though he was wrong about a release last week....
 
For those hoping for new G5s very soon . . .

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93665

Like I've been saying, let Apple work out their problems with the G5, then hope for new releases. I suspect that when you see a new OS update you will see new G5s.

EDIT: If, despite what I've said above, you are still hoping for updates, there is one sign of hope. As of tonight, the Apple Store no longer has any refurbished G5s available. Have they simply sold out what they had available? Or . . .
 
Originally posted by numediaman
For those hoping for new G5s very soon . . .

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93665

Like I've been saying, let Apple work out their problems with the G5, then hope for new releases. I suspect that when you see a new OS update you will see new G5s.

EDIT: If, despite what I've said above, you are still hoping for updates, there is one sign of hope. As of tonight, the Apple Store no longer has any refurbished G5s available. Have they simply sold out what they had available? Or . . .
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That's what I am hoping for, a powermac update along with 10.3.3. It seems that this update has been worked on for a while and that they are nearing completion. I believe that the new update will come out in the next two weeks, along with new powermacs.

As for the refurbished G5s, my brother did buy a single 1.6 this afternoon...
 
More than anything, I would watch the AMD processors, as their clock speeds follow very closely with IBM's 970FX line...

The top line for AMD is only at 2.2ghz (for Apple it is 2.0ghz).

When AMD hits 2.6ghz and Apple is still sitting on a Dual 2.0, then i'd start complaining...

AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 2.6GHz 1MB Q4 '04
AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 2.4Ghz 1MB Q2 '04

This is taken from Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1947

If AMD is not even close to 3.0Ghz by the end of year, I'm not quite so sure 3.0Ghz will happen by June-August...

*should it happen, there is no doubt in my mind that the G5 will be the performance leader...but with the processes for both the Athlon64 chip and 970FX coming from IBM, it will be a surprise.

And again, this is not taking any consideration of how far the Prescott will hurry/threaten AMD's offerings...it's pretty much all on Intel's table if the performance race will be heading into overdrive :)
 
hmm

Originally posted by invaLPsion
Does anyone have more educated guesses as to when the new G5s are coming out? I wish NeatGekko would give us some information, even though he was wrong about a release last week....
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I said my hopes were high for a release last week. It didn't happen. I have no new info beyond the basic why they weren't released already.
 
Re: hmm

Originally posted by NeatGekko
I said my hopes were high for a release last week. It didn't happen. I have no new info beyond the basic why they weren't released already.
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Well assuming that they exist and could be shipped, the only logical answer is "Pepsi".
 
Re: hmm

Originally posted by NeatGekko
I said my hopes were high for a release last week. It didn't happen. I have no new info beyond the basic why they weren't released already.
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I supppose you can't tell us where you're getting your info from, can you?:D

Oh well, I still think you will be correct about the speeds up to 3 GHz eventually. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks as you posted somewhere else. (YOu were correct about the mini iPods)

Do you believe that the release of new powermacs is tied to 10.3.3 now that Apple is shipping iLife with all new macs?
 
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