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Galaxy Note 5

The Game 161 said:
Ios is why I'm back iphone

I love my edge still but the odd lag and freezing is frustrating as is the issue with texts stuttering when typing. Not everytime I have issues but it's something that should never happen on flagships.

The software is the issue for Samsung here. Now there is no difference in screen size, no SD cards and no removable. So really if everything else is the same you go with the best user experience and that's the software.

I'm still going to use my S6 edge but iPhone 6S plus will be my main driver for the reasons I stated.

Software is why apple is the better option for me now. My air 2 is flawless which is simply not the case on my android devices.

Won't stop me loving watching reviews of these awesome android devices. .Can't wait to see edge plus in person.
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I don't disagree fully with you, but these stutters you speak of don't seem to affect me the same. I agree Samsung needs to do better on software, but it is slowly but steady. You don't see these problems on Motorola phones, for example. Why? Because they leave the software to the experts, Google.

Now, that doesn't help you if you want a Samsung phone. But, just like my s6, once I get the note; I'll disable bloat (not a lot on T-Mobile phones), adjust my settings (like wifi scanning and etc), replace the launcher and some of the stock apps, like the messaging apps, with better alternatives in the play store. As such, I rarely saw problems or stutters on my s6. The battery life was poor for me, I expect that to be less of an issue with the note. Honestly I have had more reboots with my iPhone lately, which is weird. I have tried a reset, etc. my iPad Air 2 does run flawless though, and is still the best tablet experience; imo.

Maybe I have a higher tolerance, since I used android before iOS. But to me the situation is similar to what I am seeing with Windows and OSX. Windows was inferior to OS X until Windows ten....kind of like android and iOS until lollipop. Android M only furthers this argument, IMO.

I still just recently bought a Mac, because it has the best hardware combo imo. Haven't had time, but i plan on putting Windows ten on it shortly.
 
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anonymous4a said:
I saw the battery test for the note 5 on the website phone arena , but does it really last longer than iphone 6 plus ? The graph showed it had a longer on screen time than iphone 6 plus .
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I think you have to take benchmarks with a grain of salt. They are early indicators only. The real test is end user experiences of people that actually own the phone. Mine is on the truck for delivery so I will post back my experiences with the battery life. I am sure others will as well.
 
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BlueGoldAce said:
I still just recently bought a Mac, because it has the best hardware combo imo. Haven't had time, but i plan on putting Windows ten on it shortly.
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Please post back how it goes getting Windows 10 on your Mac. I am thinking of putting it on my rMBP but was concerned about bootcamp drivers being available.
 
hovscorpion12 said:
Technically there is. If you pre-order the Note 5 on Best Buy you have the option for the Unactivated device. put in your nano sim card and it should work
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That's actually not the same thing. There is no option for unlocked/carrier free. You still have to select a carrier first--you're just choosing to pay full retail upfront. It still will be tied to a specific carrier and full of carrier related bloat, the 2 aspects I refuse to accept.
 
tbayrgs said:
That's actually not the same thing. There is no option for unlocked/carrier free. You still have to select a carrier first--you're just choosing to pay full retail upfront. It still will be tied to a specific carrier and full of carrier related bloat, the 2 aspects I refuse to accept.
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All Verizon phones are unlocked out of the box, I thought. Some deal with the FFC. I know all their iPhone are, and according to an IMGUR post by an Ex employee, that is the case with all their phones.
 
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tbayrgs said:
That's actually not the same thing. There is no option for unlocked/carrier free. You still have to select a carrier first--you're just choosing to pay full retail upfront. It still will be tied to a specific carrier and full of carrier related bloat, the 2 aspects I refuse to accept.
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Not if you buy a VZW phone. They are GSM unlocked so you would be free to activate on TMO and AT&T. VZW phones have the radio to support GSM bands. My Verizon Note 4 and iPhone 6 plus will work on AT&T too.
 
Alright, that solves half the problem (and admittedly, the less important half for me personally). My greater concern is all the Verizon bloatware and waiting on Verizon for software updates.
 
tbayrgs said:
Alright, that solves half the problem (and admittedly, the less important half for me personally). My greater concern is all the Verizon bloatware and waiting on Verizon for software updates.
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That and apparently Verizon has blocked Samsung pay.

This is suppose to be illegal, based on FFC rules I thought, but I don't know...
 
tbayrgs said:
Alright, that solves half the problem (and admittedly, the less important half for me personally). My greater concern is all the Verizon bloatware and waiting on Verizon for software updates.
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Agreed.....I would like to see all OEMs do what Moto is doing and release phones that will work with all carriers.
 
jamezr said:
That baffles me too.....I mean they don't have a competing product. Then they don't block Apple Pay...i have used it on my IP6 Plus.
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They won't go against Apple, Apple is too big.

I bet they won't block android pay either.

Doesn't make sense, but they have blocked things in the past for no logical reason.
 
First stop was an AT&T store. Went there first cause I knew I would be on cellular and have access to the Play Store because of previous visits for new devices.

The screen is great. I installed and had Subway Surfers opened on home for the app and the colors did not seem as bloated to me as I felt on previous Samsung displays. The game played fine, no lag.

I also installed Beach Buggy Blitz and RR3, again they played fine with no lag.

Opened up several webpages and smooth scrolling all the way.

Played some youtube videos in 1080p. All played fine, no buffering or stuttering. Sound was pretty good from external speaker and no vibration holding the Note 5.

Now came the moment of truth, going back to apps and scrolling through them. Unfortunately refreshing galore. 4GB RAM so WTF but maybe the device in retail mode had something to do with it.

I'm going to try t-mobile and Verizon later. More fun.
 
AppleRobert said:
First stop was an AT&T store. Went there first cause I knew I would be on cellular and have access to the Play Store because of previous visits for new devices.

The screen is great. I installed and had Subway Surfers opened on home for the app and the colors did not seem as bloated to me as I felt on previous Samsung displays. The game played fine, no lag.

I also installed Beach Buggy Blitz and RR3, again they played fine with no lag.

Opened up several webpages and smooth scrolling all the way.

Played some youtube videos in 1080p. All played fine, no buffering or stuttering. Sound was pretty good from external speaker and no vibration holding the Note 5.

Now came the moment of truth, going back to apps and scrolling through them. Unfortunately refreshing galore. 4GB RAM so WTF but maybe the device in retail mode had something to do with it.

I'm going to try t-mobile and Verizon later. More fun.
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Maybe. I did see the refreshing problem at the T-Mobile store, but I didn't push it either.
 
AppleRobert said:
First stop was an AT&T store. Went there first cause I knew I would be on cellular and have access to the Play Store because of previous visits for new devices.

The screen is great. I installed and had Subway Surfers opened on home for the app and the colors did not seem as bloated to me as I felt on previous Samsung displays. The game played fine, no lag.

I also installed Beach Buggy Blitz and RR3, again they played fine with no lag.

Opened up several webpages and smooth scrolling all the way.

Played some youtube videos in 1080p. All played fine, no buffering or stuttering. Sound was pretty good from external speaker and no vibration holding the Note 5.

Now came the moment of truth, going back to apps and scrolling through them. Unfortunately refreshing galore. 4GB RAM so WTF but maybe the device in retail mode had something to do with it.

I'm going to try t-mobile and Verizon later. More fun.
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How far back did you go when you saw the apps refresh? Which apps?
 
AppleRobert said:
Now came the moment of truth, going back to apps and scrolling through them. Unfortunately refreshing galore. 4GB RAM so WTF but maybe the device in retail mode had something to do with it.

I'm going to try t-mobile and Verizon later. More fun.
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BlueGoldAce said:
Maybe. I did see the refreshing problem at the T-Mobile store, but I didn't push it either.
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Samsung .... 🙁 whilst I'm not totally shocked - but for heavens sake they really need to get to grips with this. 4gb of Ram it should multitask like a champion ...
 
MRU said:
Samsung .... 🙁 whilst I'm not totally shocked - but for heavens sake they really need to get to grips with this. 4gb of Ram it should multitask like a champion ...
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I think it will multi task like a champion. It might refresh apps 4 or 5 apps back but that won't affect most people. The majority of the buying public don't even know what an app refresh is. Most people have to be shown what an app refresh is. I think it only affects a few of us phone nerds! 🙂
 
jamezr said:
I think it will multi task like a champion. It might refresh apps 4 or 5 apps back but that won't affect most people. The majority of the buying public don't even know what an app refresh is.
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I'm in that boat. As long as the last 2 or 3 apps stay in memory I personally will be ok. I agree that it is crazy for a phone with so much memory.

To those worried about bloat. Those are easy things to disable and hide...
Obviously updates are a whole different story, but then again the note is one of the few phones where I am not obsessed with the latest version of android b.c it already offers so much more. Samsung does a good job at adding features that stock is sometimes missing (e.g. DND mode before lollipop)
 
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mattopotamus said:
I'm in that boat. As long as the last 2 or 3 apps stay in memory I personally will be ok. I agree that it is crazy for a phone with so much memory.

To those worried about bloat. Those are easy things to disable and hide...
Obviously updates are a whole different story, but then again the note is one of the few phones where I am not obsessed with the latest version of android b.c it already offers so much more. Samsung does a good job at adding features that stock is sometimes missing (e.g. DND mode)
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I had to watch a video of it just to know what a app refresh was.....
 
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BlueGoldAce said:
I don't disagree fully with you, but these stutters you speak of don't seem to affect me the same. I agree Samsung needs to do better on software, but it is slowly but steady. You don't see these problems on Motorola phones, for example. Why? Because they leave the software to the experts, Google.

Now, that doesn't help you if you want a Samsung phone. But, just like my s6, once I get the note; I'll disable bloat (not a lot on T-Mobile phones), adjust my settings (like wifi scanning and etc), replace the launcher and some of the stock apps, like the messaging apps, with better alternatives in the play store. As such, I rarely saw problems or stutters on my s6. The battery life was poor for me, I expect that to be less of an issue with the note. Honestly I have had more reboots with my iPhone lately, which is weird. I have tried a reset, etc. my iPad Air 2 does run flawless though, and is still the best tablet experience; imo.

Maybe I have a higher tolerance, since I used android before iOS. But to me the situation is similar to what I am seeing with Windows and OSX. Windows was inferior to OS X until Windows ten....kind of like android and iOS until lollipop. Android M only furthers this argument, IMO.

I still just recently bought a Mac, because it has the best hardware combo imo. Haven't had time, but i plan on putting Windows ten on it shortly.
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Well had same issue on S4 and note 4 after the update so the issues I have aren't some one off fluke. There is lag with Samsung phones just depends how much bothers people.

5.0 killed it for me...Note 4 was fine on 4.4
 
jamezr said:
The majority of the buying public don't even know what an app refresh is.
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mattopotamus said:
I'm in that boat. As long as the last 2 or 3 apps stay in memory I personally will be ok. I agree that it is crazy for a phone with so much memory.
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That doesn't and shouldn't excuse it though ... A first and second gen Moto G can handle 4-5 background apps without refreshing, my 2014 moto X 8 apps or more. My Nexus 6 at least a dozen. All have less ram.

The amount of flack the iPhone 6/6Plus got for 1gb of ram and yet it can handle the same amount of backgrounded apps as a device with 3 or 4x as much ram ? That's poor optimisation.

I guess I'm just disappointed - genuinely was truly hoping that the extra 1gb of ram would solve the issue - and I would have eventually have talked myself into upgrading to the 6E Plus despite it not being very economical to do so, but it's like everything is conspiring to make me pass.

Samsung do really need to get to grips with this though. It isn't good enough.
 
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