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Galaxy Note 5
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Oh man, I dont even know if your actually serious. First off, I'm a tech enthusiast, and seeing those refreshes in that video doesn't even bother me like some are displaying here. So that means no way in hell I'm giving anyone a pass. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing to pass. But this is a subjective thing. Do you see why I chose not to discuss subjective matters? There's no point. YOU can't tell me or anyone else that this should be a bad user experience. But fine, you hate it. I'm only hearing the so called tech geeks complain about this. As tech geeks, if it bothers them that much, I guess they can just go to xda and take care of it themselves. Because it's a software thing. If Samsung "fixes" this, then even better for the complainers.
So are you seriously more annoyed by refreshes (something that can be fixed by software update) or paying premium prices for inferior hardware like on an iPhone (something that can't be fixed one you have it.) I chose the latter for obvious reasons. You've obviously chosen the former and for whatever reason are perfectly fine with the latter, as I've never heard you complain about it like you have about these refreshes. Always remember, Acknowledging the inferior hardware on the iPhone doesn't mean you hate Apple or devalue your admiration for a device, but using the excuse that casual users or that the iOS is optimized and doesn't need better hardware is just absolute nonsense and a joke.
Why do you continuously persist in bringing the iPhone into every post of yours ? This is a Note 5 thread. This is discussing Samsung, Touchwiz and the Note 5. It has nothing to do with the iPhone.
Likewise If it doesn't bother and you have no problem with it, why are you continuously defending it? Why always attempt to categorise it as only a tech enthusiast problem and even suggest users should fix it themselves ?
You say your not giving Samsung a pass, but by labelling it as tech enthusiast only problem and telling users to fix it themselves that is EXACTLY what your doing.
As for Samsung fixing it. Where is this fix 5 months after launch of the S6/S6 Edge ? Samsung haven't even acknowledged this issue so just saying 'it can be fixed by software' does not excuse it or even mean they will. There is indeed as much chance they will not ... Indeed given the new devices have this issue despite having an extra 1gb ram doesn't fill many of us with confidence that a fix is coming anytime soon.
Installing same apps on my Moto X 2014 and I'll conduct same test.
Results few posts below ....
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So far, the phone is nice but I'm not sure if I love it and I think it's due to TW.
The device itself is premium; the form factor comes close to the ip6+, slim and just the right size. The display is excellent!
With all that said, I'm not sure if I want to leave my N6...
I hope the development community can create some great roms that can minimize the TW footprint.
The device itself is premium; the form factor comes close to the ip6+, slim and just the right size. The display is excellent!
With all that said, I'm not sure if I want to leave my N6...
I hope the development community can create some great roms that can minimize the TW footprint.
Of course they won't
If they didn't fix it before and now when their sales fiqures were at their worse why will they now? we can hope but it's unlikely.
Just installed a fresh ROM on my Nexus 6, this thing is so fluid fast and smooth, and battery life on average giving me like 5.5h Screen on time. I am pretty satisfied with the Nexus 6, mainly due to the excellent rock solid stable ROM's that add so much more to the stock phone.
I am reading this thread, and really debating getting the Note 5, but the last day or so, reading comments here and on XDA, just sounds like it's not for me. I love stock Android, especially ROM'd stock Android that add the extra needed features to plain vanilla Android.
But I did LOVE my old Note 2 back in the day, one of my all time top fav phones ever. If the Note 5 was like my old ATT Note 2, meaning awesome development, for all versions of the Note 2, and easily rooted on every carrier version, and the Note 2 was known for best in class battery life. And the ROM's for the Note 2, still Touchwiz based were off the charts really good, better than AOSP at the time. But sadly, seems the Note 5 is NOTHING like the Note 2 for it's day
Ok just did this on my Moto X 2014.
Used all your apps bar Duck Tales as i don't have it. No reloading at all so I added more apps to mix and still no reloading.
Video of it uploading now.
This is on a device with 1/2 the amount of Ram as the Note 5.
By the end I had 12 apps open. No reloading ....
Apps were
Angry birds, Angry birds 2, Chrome, Gmail, Dropbox, Amazon, Pocketcasts, Messenger, Photos, Keep, Calendar & Tapatalk
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I understand.Just installed a fresh ROM on my Nexus 6, this thing is so fluid fast and smooth, and battery life on abergae giving kme like 5,5h Screen on time.
I am reading this thread, and really debating getting the Note 5, but the last day or so, reading comments here and on XDA, just sounds like it's not for me. I love stock Android, especially ROM'd stock Android that add the extra needed features to plain vanilla Android.
If the Note 5 was like my old ATT Note 2, meaning awesome development, for all versions of the Note 2, and easily rooted on every carrier version, and the Note 2 was known for best in class battery life. And the ROM's for the Note 2, still Touchwiz based were off the charts really good, better than AOSP at the time. But sadly, seems the Note 5 is NOTHING like the Note 2 for it's day
I definitely like the feel of the Note 5 in the hand--much better than the N6.
Both great devices; just one of them is crippled by its launcher.
It really depends if the T-Mobile Note 5 get's rooted soon, and a good ROM gets made tweaking stock TW to be smoother and get rid of the RAM lags, ans multi tasking issues. If that happens, which I think most likely will, I will strongly consider the Note 5.
But no way would I pick up a stock ATT Note 5 with no root ever. No frigging way, not this phone. The Note 5 needs to be rooted to fix what Samsung didn't
It really depends if the T-Mobile Note 5 get's rooted soon, and a good ROM gets made tweaking stock TW to be smoother and get rid of the RAM lags, ans multi tasking issues. If that happens, which I think most likely will, I will strongly consider the Note 5.
But no way would I pick up a stock ATT Note 5 with no root ever. No frigging way, not this phone. The Note 5 needs to be rooted to fix what Samsung didn't
Yeah I have the stock Note 5 but I use to be into all the rooting and all that but Its good enough for me. I know it was have ongoing issues but it is what it is.
That's what I saw in a leak before it was released. But that leak said that it would have an Exynos 7422 though.
Don't really see what your point is.
On mine it says 1.6gb for system, 6-700 for app, and 1.2gb free right now, I haven't rebooted since 2 days ago.
Yeah, I'm not disputing it doesn't exist or that it's not an issue. I guess I'm just kinda apathetic about it since it doesn't really affect me day to day, though these discussions are getting me curious about it.
Honestly though, this phone would be a complete monster if Samsung was actually able to optimize their software. That and give timely updates, plus TouchWiz updates for older models. One can dream....
That sounds more reasonable. I was worried they added an extra gig and then gobbled it up with TW.
I'm used to having about 1GB free on my S6 which, although refreshes way more than the 4GB OPT, it's not been overly annoying.
That's actually my exact point too and possibly why it disappoints, because undoubtably if the new Touchwiz on the S6/S6e/Note5/Edge+ was optimised we would have the as close to perfect the devices we could wish for...
And I only did the test because it was asked by azhurvadal - if someone could run same test and post results
Best bet is go to settings.
Settings - Application Manager - Swipe to Ram
That shows you a basic overview but to get full info click on the 'MORE' or menu icon top right and choose 'show cached process'.
This will show how much memory is left even after the system has cached it's processes and often it reveals how much more memory has been taken.
I'm even tempted to try the Note 5, if it's part of Samsung's $1 try-it promotion. I think the Note 5 looks slick and it does look tempting to play around with for a month.
But other than bashing the iphone, which seems to happen in a lot of non-iphone threads, you claim the biggest deciding factor is the camera. That the iphone 6 outsold all recent Samsung models are you suggesting that consumers think the iphone 6 is "best in class"? Reading between your own lines.
If you hit more at the top right, will it show cached apps in ram too?Settings/applications/application manager/running
You really shouldn't be having problems with that much free. Goes with what MRU is saying that this may not even really be about ram, but about some kind of custom code that is just killing background and/or cached processes.
It's like running 'hibernate apps' in greenify between switching apps
The app refresh and slight choppy game animation are just minor quibbles. Samsung get several things right with touch Wiz too. It does not take away from the amazing piece of hardware that Samsung has created.
A thing that frustrated me about the Nexus 6 was it's awkward size. I can't belive I'm holding a 5.7 inch device with note 5. Material design is great but it does no favors on an amoled screen. It's one of the main reasons I rooted the Nexus 6. I couldn't stand all the white. The ability to change the look of the Note 5 with a dark theme is great.
A thing that frustrated me about the Nexus 6 was it's awkward size. I can't belive I'm holding a 5.7 inch device with note 5. Material design is great but it does no favors on an amoled screen. It's one of the main reasons I rooted the Nexus 6. I couldn't stand all the white. The ability to change the look of the Note 5 with a dark theme is great.