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This is where I'm confused. Can someone explain to me why MMS won't work on my 1st gen. iPhone? It looks like the hardware can support it, right? Is Apple just lying to us so we go out and buy a 3G?

I don't think you are going to get an explination on this one. You will have people here tell you that it can or that it can't. All that matters is apple says it can't so they won't let it unless you j/b the phone.
 
This is where I'm confused. Can someone explain to me why MMS won't work on my 1st gen. iPhone? It looks like the hardware can support it, right? Is Apple just lying to us so we go out and buy a 3G?

Yes, the hardware can support it, as over a year of experience with jailbroken phones proves. So even though I find it stunning that apple would simply outright lie about this, I can't see any other explanation.
 
At&t?

Yes, the hardware can support it, as over a year of experience with jailbroken phones proves. So even though I find it stunning that apple would simply outright lie about this, I can't see any other explanation.

Maybe it is a demand from AT&T. In that case the "hardware issue" is "the radio sends the pictures where AT&T doesn't want them". AT&T might be trying to limit EDGE traffic as much as it can.

I can't see this as being some sort of wedge issue Apple is using to push people onto new hardware. Maybe I am out of touch but MMS seems like such a silly, small feature - a telco hack for something done better in email. Glad to have it, though.
 
OK my question is this to those who are using 3.0...Is it worth just paying $99 for a dev pass so I can get it. Or is it buggy enough that I would want to wait until the final release. That is my big question right now. Answers please. Thanks in advance. :)

Its beta, you never know what to expect.

As for the 99$, if your not serious about developing its a lot of money for getting something 3 months early.

On the other hand objective-c is not that hard to learn.
 
Maybe it is a demand from AT&T. In that case the "hardware issue" is "the radio sends the pictures where AT&T doesn't want them". AT&T might be trying to limit EDGE traffic as much as it can.

I can't see this as being some sort of wedge issue Apple is using to push people onto new hardware. Maybe I am out of touch but MMS seems like such a silly, small feature - a telco hack for something done better in email. Glad to have it, though.

I can't see apple doing that either, but we know for a fact their explanation is not true. You could be right re: AT&T, but IMO apple is stretching the truth quite a bit if they're calling that a hardware issue.

no it still only has one :-/

Lame! But thanks for checking. :)
 
This is where I'm confused. Can someone explain to me why MMS won't work on my 1st gen. iPhone? It looks like the hardware can support it, right? Is Apple just lying to us so we go out and buy a 3G?

MMS will work on a 1st gen iPhone - MMS will work on any iPhone. Download Quip from the App Store. It's free and easy to use.

All this hoopla over MMS is overblown. I've been sending pictures from my iPhone for awhile...
 
Cut and paste and Safari

What does a double tap in Safari do now? Zoom in/out or cut-and-paste?
 
What does a double tap in Safari do now? Zoom in/out or cut-and-paste?

It zooms still. You hold down (like you do on a image to save it) on text to get the copy handles.

also a little known feature that i've noticed is you can pause app store downloads and resume then later. (dont remember if that was in 2.x)
 
What would be nice is if in Safari you could tap and hold an image and instead of a dialogue coming up to save to photos, you had the option of copying to paste into an email, an MMS, etc.
 
What would be nice is if in Safari you could tap and hold an image and instead of a dialogue coming up to save to photos, you had the option of copying to paste into an email, an MMS, etc.

That would be nice... give you a little screen that comes up from the bottom.. what do you want to do: save, email, mms... etc...
 
I can't get c+p to work with input boxes in web pages.

For example the box for the tracking numbers here...
http://www.ups.com/tracking/tracking.html

It won't paste, it just keeps placing the blue copy overlay over the box and the Copy bubble appears. Also there's no blinking cursor in the box but I can type as normal. This also goes for the Google webpage search box (not the Safari search box, the box within the Google mobile webpage)
 
I can't get c+p to work with input boxes in web pages.

For example the box for the tracking numbers here...
http://www.ups.com/tracking/tracking.html

It won't paste, it just keeps placing the blue copy overlay over the box and the Copy bubble appears. Also there's no blinking cursor in the box but I can type as normal. This also goes for the Google webpage search box (not the Safari search box, the box within the Google mobile webpage)

That definitely needs to be fixed. Also, can you copy from the URL address bar?
 
this is all so exciting. i feel like if apple would have released this all together it would have made the iPhone a lot harder to master for average users.

then again... compared to a windows mobile phone (like my old Samsung Epix) this is a brreeezee
 
That definitely needs to be fixed. Also, can you copy from the URL address bar?

My phone's syncing a bunch of apps. I'll check when it's done.

I'm testing my apps to see what works. Ambiance crashes instantly.

Shame about c+p. Hope it's fixed soon. The main reason I wanted it was for stuff like that.
 
This is where I'm confused. Can someone explain to me why MMS won't work on my 1st gen. iPhone? It looks like the hardware can support it, right? Is Apple just lying to us so we go out and buy a 3G?

I wouldn't put it past Apple for doing that. It just seems silly that so many non-3g phones can do MMS, and the 1st gen iPhone can't.
 
Finally!

I can't believe there are some people not happy with this release. For me, this brings the two main features I have been waiting for: Turn-by-turn GPS and the ability to turn SMS message previews off (without having to have the phone in passcode-lock mode). Now it has all the features of the Nokia that I gave up for the iPhone, PLUS all the awesomeness of the iPhone! Everything else is a bonus.
 
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