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Gaming on 16 inch MacBook pro

leman said:
I wouldn't read too much into it. First of all, where are these scores even from? Which Lexmark version? Which of the Lexmark benchmark scenes? If this is the default one (v3.1, LuxBall), then why are these scores so low? My Vega Pro 20 scores 11080, and it is certainly way slower than 1060 (even Max-Q). Why is that 1060 claimed to be 60 watt? The normal 1060 Max-Q is supposed to be a 80W part.

Some more points to consider:

Anyway, all this tells me that LuxMark is a very random piece of software that just does it's thing and does it in a very idiosyncratic fashion. I have no idea what it measures exactly, but it's fairly clear that one should not take it as a representative benchmark.
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You're right that is weird. most likely down to cooling and cooler type. Do your research and compare with stock cards or laptop to laptop.

My 1060 reports it was drawing 59.9 in HWiNfo which matches up with battery draw if I run it on battery. The Luxmark version is 3.1. I got the macbook pro one from anther forum. Here is the link:

2019 Macbook 16 Benchmarks

Also the 1060MaxQ scores about the same % above in a gaming benchmark too. got 54.6fps on the same settings.


all I am trying to do is help people compare. You can expect about a 1650's worth of performance and def less than a 1060 desktop/laptop (aka my max-q) since i score exactly the same as a desktop card since it's cooled really well.

Is it worth the price increase?; yes! because it's the most powerful card in a macbook today :)

Also luxmark is a benchmark app Apple used when they released their 2013 Mac Pro so that software holds some weight..
 
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Either way there's 3 great GPU options for a good price.

Couldn't be happier with the 16 so far, can't wait to have my hands on it.
 
Interesting to see that AMD is actually shipping workstation drivers for Windows on these machines. I don't think this was the case before? I guess this is the first time we can authoritatively claim that the MBP is officially a workstation.
 
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leman said:
Interesting to see that AMD is actually shipping workstation drivers for Windows on these machines. I don't think this was the case before? I guess this is the first time we can authoritatively claim that the MBP is officially a workstation.
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Yeah it's a bit confusing.. Especially for those who wanted to game in Windows... I suppose Gaming on the Mac remains unaffected.
 
MrGunnyPT said:
Yeah it's a bit confusing.. Especially for those who wanted to game in Windows... I suppose Gaming on the Mac remains unaffected.
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I'm sure that Mat will have modded recent drivers up in no time.

But still, this is a qualitative change. So far, what we got were crappy outdated drivers. Now at least its workstation drivers :D
 
MrGunnyPT said:
Yeah it's a bit confusing.. Especially for those who wanted to game in Windows... I suppose Gaming on the Mac remains unaffected.
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You cannot game in Bootcamp on the 16” because AMD is using workstation drivers? Those don’t support gaming?
 
leman said:
Interesting to see that AMD is actually shipping workstation drivers for Windows on these machines. I don't think this was the case before? I guess this is the first time we can authoritatively claim that the MBP is officially a workstation.
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CAD users will appreciate that yea?
 
CM_1986 said:
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The first video above shows a few examples and I have tested it myself on my own 16" - if you set any full screen game below native resolution, it will only take up a small corner of the screen. No amount of tinkering with the Radeon drivers (GPU scaling), Windows scaling or the game settings (full screen, borderless window, etc) fixes it.

Tomb Raider seems like the only game that can handle lower resolutions and still display full screen properly.

Edit: As long as a game has a render scaling option (such as Overwatch) you can run at native resolution and just lower the scaling % to make it very playable. Overwatch runs great on my 5300M!
 
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So if one wants to play some Civ and games of that nature, and perhaps some Counter Strike Go, but nothing fancier what GPU should one get? And will 16GB of RAM suffice?
 
fishmoose said:
So if one wants to play some Civ and games of that nature, and perhaps some Counter Strike Go, but nothing fancier what GPU should one get? And will 16GB of RAM suffice?
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Have the base i9 model. (5500M 4GB, 16GB of RAM)

Running CSGO natively through MacOS on Low at 1600x900 (16:9). I'm a competitive guy; don't like fancy graphics. The increased resolution is already a massive jump for me. I typically play FPS's competitively at 1024x768. I'm currently fluctuating from ~160-300 frames with no console commands, launch options, or FPS tweaks.

Pretty impressive. I'd imagine even better and more stable through Bootcamp.
 
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btraill said:
Have the base i9 model. (5500M 4GB, 16GB of RAM)

Running CSGO natively through MacOS on Low at 1600x900 (16:9). I'm a competitive guy; don't like fancy graphics. The increased resolution is already a massive jump for me. I typically play FPS's competitively at 1024x768. I'm currently fluctuating from ~160-300 frames with no console commands, launch options, or FPS tweaks.

Pretty impressive. I'd imagine even better and more stable through Bootcamp.
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Sounds good. I’ve been leaning towards the same config as you. I think that settles it. The upgrade to the 5500M with 4GB is not a big deal when taking the cost of the computer into consideration so why the hell not right?
 
fishmoose said:
Sounds good. I’ve been leaning towards the same config as you. I think that settles it. The upgrade to the 5500M with 4GB is not a big deal when taking the cost of the computer into consideration so why the hell not right?
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I'm upgrading to 5500M because of WoW and Civ.
 
riptidewahoo said:
The first video above shows a few examples and I have tested it myself on my own 16" - if you set any full screen game below native resolution, it will only take up a small corner of the screen. No amount of tinkering with the Radeon drivers (GPU scaling), Windows scaling or the game settings (full screen, borderless window, etc) fixes it.

Tomb Raider seems like the only game that can handle lower resolutions and still display full screen properly.

Edit: As long as a game has a render scaling option (such as Overwatch) you can run at native resolution and just lower the scaling % to make it very playable. Overwatch runs great on my 5300M!
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Any idea if this has been resolved in the latest Beta release?
 
I’ll happily make a review about what the new 16” with 32gigs of ram and the 8gig 5500m can do with regards to gaming. I receive mine on 11/25. I would love to see a review from a normal Joe/Jane that doesn’t have a full fledged YouTube channel they’re trying to promote.
 
Just finished installing Bootcamp + CSGO and mimicking the settings I had in MacOS. Performance is about ~60 frames higher consistently. Pretty big improvement. (That's the default Bootcamp installation, 150gb partition, latest Windows 1909 ISO from Microsoft)
 
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