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captain kirk said:
Sorry to go further off topic but I could use some advice. I am visiting boston next week and want to go see a red sox game. Is it advisable to pre book tickets or am I ok just turning up???

Glad to have you come over!!!

What day are you plannning on seeing a game? Quite a few of the games are sold out unfortunately - but if you let me know when you are going to be here I can check it out for you (or you can go to the redsox page at http://www.redsox.com).

Go Sox!!

Brian
 
Playing with GB for the first time

hvfsl said:
I just got my new PowerBook on Friday, I have been playing with GB for the first time today, but it seems to have some performance issues, even on my new PowerBook. I hope this will sort them.

Have you checked your "Energy Saver" preferences in Syste prefs? Your machine may be set to "minimum" (low?) processor usage... Try setting it to "maximum" and see if it helps.

m
 
great update!!!

I am really happy with this update. I am running GB on my Pismo with only 384 mb of RAM and I'm not getting any system overload errors and I have seven tracks all doing something. 🙂 Before this update I couldn't run more than two at a time! Anyone else experience similar significant imporvements?

Later
 
t300 said:
No...No...Noooo...It was working perfectly with the exact same tracks and such all day...I left for 2 hours, came back, found the update, installed it...and VIOLA! I get those messages...

Maybe you could try a violin instead of a viola? 😉
 
37.2 megs means one thing and one thing only . . .

I'm waiting until August to get this update when I am back in my dorm room with high speed internet and away from this dial up stuff.
 
Nermal said:
Maybe you could try a violin instead of a viola? 😉

That was great. One of those once-a-month posts that just makes you break out laughing. Man, I needed that. And t300, it seems like you took it well.

By the way, are you still getting that message? Like I said, I only got that message once.

Squire
 
Macrumors said:
supports loop libraries in other disk locations

Anyone have any luck changing the location of loop libraries? Haven't downloaded the update yet, but I'm pretty excited about maybe getting to move the apple loop library onto my other drive.

- reaper
 
I haven't heard much about GB, but I'd like to know if anyone can tell me if the MP3 or AAC import will recognize tempos and if you can change the tempo of individual tracks? Might be a fun way to create your own mixed tracks, but not in realtime... It would be really cool if they also included DJ mixing in GrarageBand.

Is the ReWire support both ways or one way? I have readson and cubase, so might be fun to play with GB.
 
I never really had many problems with GB, it was just slow as a snail on my 900MHz iBook G3, I ordered a new 12inch PowerBook so hopefully it will be a little quicker.
 
pgwalsh said:
I haven't heard much about GB, but I'd like to know if anyone can tell me if the MP3 or AAC import will recognize tempos and if you can change the tempo of individual tracks? Might be a fun way to create your own mixed tracks, but not in realtime... It would be really cool if they also included DJ mixing in GrarageBand.

Is the ReWire support both ways or one way? I have readson and cubase, so might be fun to play with GB.

That would be cool, but, unfortunately, it doesn't recognize the imported tune's tempo.

Squire
 
Squire said:
That would be cool, but, unfortunately, it doesn't recognize the imported tune's tempo.

Squire
So what does it use to get the tempo of loops or is there a special file like Rex they use?
 
pgwalsh said:
So what does it use to get the tempo of loops or is there a special file like Rex they use?

I don't know. (I'd like to.) I just tried importing a few songs last night and adding percussion to them. It was difficult getting the timing right. Maybe there's a script that can do it.

Sorry, I'm not much help. 😉

Squire
 
Squire said:
I don't know. (I'd like to.) I just tried importing a few songs last night and adding percussion to them. It was difficult getting the timing right. Maybe there's a script that can do it.

Sorry, I'm not much help. 😉

Squire
The loops that come with GB adjust to temp though, right?
 
Flowbee said:
You need to use the Soundtrack Loop Utility, available (free) from Apple.com. More info here.
Cool.. thanks for the info.. I suppose garageband could become Mac version of Acid From SonicFoundry....er Sony, but better. Would be great to have a built in wave editor and the ability to drag and drop loops from any sound library or REX files..
 
importing music

i really haven't had too much of a problem importing mp3 or unprotected aac into garageband in the past... just drag from itunes to garageband. oh well... i guess it was kind of sketchy though. in my collection of all ripped music, some songs would simply *not* import into garageband. very strange, but maybe this will fix that...

matt
 
While some of those features are great to have, they really should be working on optimizing the code or changing the graphics handling. I have an iBook G4 800 and it isn't usable on it. I run Logic Pro 6.4 on it with no problems at all. Thats right, a Pro app runs better on an iBook than an iApp. They need to step it up a notch with GB or it is going to get little use from the people they target the app at in the first place.


fucanay
 
fucanay said:
Thats right, a Pro app runs better on an iBook than an iApp. They need to step it up a notch with GB or it is going to get little use from the people they target the app at in the first place.


fucanay

Psst.... It's secretly meant to nudge g5 Mac sales.... But don't tell them I told you this...

You want Logic, Performer or ProTools response? Buy Logic, Performer or ProTools. You can still have similar overhead issues, it is just that they have tweaked the code on those over years of the apps working on slower systems.

I have seen g5s at the local Apple Store choke on GarageBand. One thing may be a bug... it doesn't like to save a song less than 32 measures sometimes, not sure if that is a software instruments (midi) or real instruments (loops, audio) issue. But it can be beachball city even on a g5.

Its great that it closes a window rather than quits though, with 1.1. If only I had the bandwidth to download.

The easiest way to improve GB performance is to go into the tracks, and turn off the effects. If you have a slower machine (I run it on a g4 400), the reverb, etc... are the biggest processor hogs. If you cut off the effects, or use them more sparingly, you can play most of the included demo songs.

You can drag drop AIFF or WAV files, although the filename extensions, if they exist, should be in lowercase. You can import Midi with Dent Du Midi. You can convert a midi file to aiff with quicktime and drag that aiff file.

And you could figure Tempo with some third party Tap Tempo app, although tap tempo should be built in to a future build. I try to match general tempo to a AIFF by playing along on another track, tapping quarter or eight notes, then adjusting the song temp until the beats of the Software Instrument (Midi) track seem to fall within the measures properly. Or you can use the waveform peaks of an audio file, if it is simple enough, to fit a measure by sliding the tempo around to something close.

Yes, Apple Loops are like REX, Acid loop files... they transpose pitch and change tempo within reason, because it is sorta chopped up into individual note events. I just don't want people to automatically start calling a file with the aif extension (file.aif) a loop, it could be non-looped not chopped, AIFF file just as easily.

And a mild surprise... if you have any audio units smart programs, or demos of such, installed, you can find that software instrument made available to GarageBand, if you dig a bit into editing the software instruments.

Oops, sorry, I responded to every thought in the entire thread that stuck....
my bad.
 
Wry Cooter said:
Psst.... It's secretly meant to nudge g5 Mac sales.... But don't tell them I told you this...

You want Logic, Performer or ProTools response? Buy Logic, Performer or ProTools. You can still have similar overhead issues, it is just that they have tweaked the code on those over years of the apps working on slower systems.
Well, I don't agree with you here. Performer and Cubase have been rewritten from the ground up. I think the difference is that you have a crew of Audio Development Professionals working on the above mentioned applications. Time could be a reason, but that doesn't explain why REASON performs so well on a G3... That app is way ahead of GB and is 1000 times more invovled and it sounds like it performs light years ahead.

My opinion from reading the list, because I don't have GB yet but will Monday, is that GB wasn't ready.. Just pushed out the door.. They probably didn't think it was going to be as big of a hit as it is...
 
pgwalsh said:
Time could be a reason, but that doesn't explain why REASON performs so well on a G3... That app is way ahead of GB and is 1000 times more invovled and it sounds like it performs light years ahead.
Sure, it's also 6x the price of GB (and you get GB *free* with a new Mac, or you at least get the other iApps with it).
 
HiRez said:
Sure, it's also 6x the price of GB (and you get GB *free* with a new Mac, or you at least get the other iApps with it).
Yes, but it performs. So GB could be a lot faster. Acid light performs faster too and it's about the same price as the iApps.. But I guess that means you're saying that it's ok to release sofware to consumers that's not very fast and wont run on most machines well if you're not going charge more.. fair enough.
 
pgwalsh said:
Well, I don't agree with you here. Performer and Cubase have been rewritten from the ground up. I think the difference is that you have a crew of Audio Development Professionals working on the above mentioned applications. Time could be a reason, but that doesn't explain why REASON performs so well on a G3... That app is way ahead of GB and is 1000 times more invovled and it sounds like it performs light years ahead.

My opinion from reading the list, because I don't have GB yet but will Monday, is that GB wasn't ready.. Just pushed out the door.. They probably didn't think it was going to be as big of a hit as it is...


Because I was so long winded about GB in general, I probably glossed over misdirected and oversimplified reasons why it's performancemay be so slow. MOTU and Steinberg may have rewritten from the ground up, but they still had a few years experience in the g3 and g4 tool box. GB probably merely took some existing Logic code (also recently rewritten from the ground up) and wrapped it in an iTune-ish loop browser and simplified interface. Any of those music apps, low end or high end will show performance hits the more effects you add... it isn't immediately obvious that each Software Instrument in GB could have 3 or four effects patches attached hitting the processor, but it is the case.

I wouldn't totally discount my conspiracy theory either, about using it to nudge sales of hardware and OS upgrades for better performance.

The most important thing is, Apple created a music creation app under 100 dollars, that easily sets up for beginners, and because of Mac market share, that particular segment has been ignored, while served quite well on the PC side, where someone can make profit on a 50 dollar program. Say what you want to about Macs being the choice for Music creation, Affordable Macintosh Music creation Apps for beginners, just weren't available for some time.
 
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