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Originally posted by MattG
Can't wait to get my hands on Garageband. Unfortunately, the Monster Instrument Adapter I ordered from Apple is on backorder until mid-February! I looked all over and I can't find anyone else who sells these. Anyone have a link?

Unless you absolutely need Monster's quality, you could just go to Radio Shack and pick up something for $5 that does the exact same thing. If you really need a Monster cable, www.monstercable.com might be able to point you in the right direction.
 
Hmmmmm..

Important Notes they have only in fine print at the bottom:
DVD drive required to install GarageBand and iDVD.

Lucky me my iBook has a combo drive, but what about the other people that 't a dvd drive.

Also, iTunes in this package, why? Every Mac has iTunes to start out with, so why is it included in this package. Does anyone else have the fears that they might make it a pay for program like they have with the rest. I don't see it anytime soon, but why would they put it with this package if there wasn't the possibility.
 
Re: Re: Sync-to-playlist

Originally posted by Quobobo
Hmm, yeah.. I'm really not sure how the new feature differs from "Automatically update selected playlists only":
ipodprefs.jpg


This is on my second generation 20gig iPod, and it has been since I started using it with iTunes 3.

The wood and dark metal are used because old Mixers back in the 70's and 80's had the same look...

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Re: Hmmmmm..

Originally posted by varmit

Also, iTunes in this package, why? Every Mac has iTunes to start out with, so why is it included in this package. Does anyone else have the fears that they might make it a pay for program like they have with the rest. I don't see it anytime soon, but why would they put it with this package if there wasn't the possibility.

iTunes for pay? Never. Its the heart and soul of the Music Store. They are putting it in the package because #1 it is part of the iLife suite - its integrated with it all, and it makes it easy for those people like schools who don't want to download updates like that from the net or who have modems.
 
Originally posted by MattG
Can't wait to get my hands on Garageband. Unfortunately, the Monster Instrument Adapter I ordered from Apple is on backorder until mid-February! I looked all over and I can't find anyone else who sells these. Anyone have a link?

You will probably get a lot better quality if you get even a basic pre-amp for your guitar, and then bring that into your line in.

I believe the monster cable is just a mono 1/4" female phono to stereo 1/8" male mini -- Radioshack may have them, or Guitar Center.
 
Thanks Bytore for the graphic of the old board. I used to work on a light dimmer that had the same wood/black metal scheme, totally slipped my mind!

That said, I still think Garageband would look better without it.

Originally posted by balconycollapse
Finally wood schmood. I'd use the app if it was hot pink or forest green. What a trivial ridiculous complaint.

Like art399 said, this concern is hardly trivial. If Apple had released GB with a hot pink interface do you think it would be adopted as fast as this one will? I dont thin so.

UI is extremely important. Speaking as a professional graphic designer, the way something looks (ads, graphics, websites, etc...) plays a huge part in how people feel about it.

If you have a look that people think is odd, clumsy, or downright ugly, these perceptions get applied to the software as a whole. You can design 2 products, (whether it is an app, a print ad, a website...) and have them do the EXACT same thing, but if people think one looks odd, you can bet your bottom dollar that it wont be a success.

Also, while the UI that Apple chose for GB reflects the old boards from yesteryear, take a look at who this app is geared towards. Amature musicians, "garagebands", people who probably have never seen a mixing board. SO when these people take a look at it, they are gonna wonder why there are a couple of two by fours attached to the sides!

Clearly many people like the wood, but i'd venture to say that an equal amount of people either think it's weird, or just plain dislike it.

Finnally, is the UI going to stop me from liking what the product does, no. But after years of using apps from apple that are slick and clean, and thus a joy to use, this one is gonna make me do I double take everytime I launch it. Just because one can design an app that looks like it's physical world counterpart doesn't mean that one should.

iTunes doesn't look like an old receiver or radio. iMovie's UI doesn't evoke images of a Moviola. (I would go on with all the iapps, but this is getting long)

I guess i'm just dissapointed that this app isn't as clean-cut as it should be given it comes from a company called Apple.
 
I like the wood - and whats in between the wood bits looks very good. This is an app that will bridge the gap for those of us who have a few songs we want to play with. I play guitar and a bit (i do mean a bit) of piano - I have not really found a program that looks as intuitive and straightforward as this.

I have to say, even tho I like the wood, I really think its a non-issue.

Comparisons with hot pink are not fair - the wood is not extreme, its just not to some tastes. Its a tiny bit of the screen and non-functional at that.

Calm down everyone, life is good if you sing and play and dont complain.

Its been a bit bitchy in these forums lately, hasnt it?

Is everyone hung-over from Christmas or what?
 
Re: Re: Hmmmmm..

Originally posted by akac
iTunes for pay? Never.


What? Do you think it's cheap for Apple to keep on developing applications like iTunes? What other jukebox software can you get that's as good as iTunes and is free? I think Apple should start charging for it to help pay for the cost of developing it. Just like all the other iApps.
 
Does anyone know if its critical to have an external USB keyboard attached or can you build loops using a "virtual" keyboard?

I note one screenshot had a picture of a keyboard and wondered if that meant you could build up note sequences using the software.

cheers
Vanilla
 
Re: Re: lose the wood

Originally posted by crees!
Well if you've been in a recording studio.. expecially one that has older equipment you will see mixing boards with wood side panels. Looks pretty realistic to me.

I thought so, too. It looks like one I used to use. (reminisces)

Squire
 
I think Apple should start charging for it to help pay for the cost of developing it. Just like all the other iApps.

Are you insane?

That would go against every fibre of apple's digital strategy.

Wy would they go to the trouble of building marketshare on windows and then decide to charge?

They are creating enough revenue and switchers from it anyway, so charging will not get them much extra $$.
 
I definetely should start to play an instrument now. GarageBand is so cool...
Lots of people have been waiting for such an app.

However, I still miss something like iWrite.......
 
Re: Re: Re: Hmmmmm..

Originally posted by sosumi99
What? Do you think it's cheap for Apple to keep on developing applications like iTunes? What other jukebox software can you get that's as good as iTunes and is free? I think Apple should start charging for it to help pay for the cost of developing it. Just like all the other iApps.

Last count, they had sold 30 million tunes on iTunes. Those people buying music and the people buying iPods for a 35% markup are paying for iTunes. Don't worry. They're making lots of money through the iTunes + iPod combo.

Originally posted by Stoffel
I definetely should start to play an instrument now. GarageBand is so cool...
Lots of people have been waiting for such an app.

However, I still miss something like iWrite.......

Funny you mention that. I told my wife at dinner that Apple had released one of my two dream applications. GarageBand, of course was the one they released. The other is an MS Word-caliber word processing app.

Squire
 
Originally posted by crees!
After looking at the screenshots I don't think you would need a keyboard to use Garageband. There was one shot that had the grandpiano and another with a a layout like in other loop creation software.

Any USB or MIDI keyboard can be used with Garageband.

I think the poster wanted to know what kind of a cable to use. I suspect if your keyboard only has a MIDI out, you'd need something like this to connect.
 
Originally posted by Vanilla
Does anyone know if its critical to have an external USB keyboard attached or can you build loops using a "virtual" keyboard?

I note one screenshot had a picture of a keyboard and wondered if that meant you could build up note sequences using the software.

cheers
Vanilla

From the "Play" page:

A Few Notes on the Built-in Keyboard


You can play and record these instruments by using GarageBand¡¯s own built-in keyboard. You can also play and record GarageBand software instruments via a USB or MIDI music keyboard. Simply plug it in, and GarageBand knows how to use it, thanks to the advanced capabilities of Mac OS X.


Initially, I had the same concern. But now I know I can still play around with the software while I'm waiting to pick up cables and such.

I also think the wood issue is trivial (so why am I bringing it up again?) but I see it this way: People who were in a non-professional music group AND had a mixer, probably had one with wood on it. But who cares? We're all just waiting to get the damn program, right?

Squire
 
Originally posted by wordmunger
I think the poster wanted to know what kind of a cable to use. I suspect if your keyboard only has a MIDI out, you'd need something like this to connect.

Yup. The technical term for what you want is a 1x1 USB MIDI Interface. It essentially has a USB cable going out of one end and two MIDI cables going out the other end. I use this interface from M-Audio: $40.
 
Well, I look forward to playing with it, but I'm not a big fan of the woodgrain - I hope there's a way to switch that.

D
 
Re: Hmmmmm..

Originally posted by varmit
Also, iTunes in this package, why? Every Mac has iTunes to start out with, so why is it included in this package. Does anyone else have the fears that they might make it a pay for program like they have with the rest. I don't see it anytime soon, but why would they put it with this package if there wasn't the possibility.

the Iapps are supposed to be used as a suite, even if some of them are for free download, it wouldn't make sense to not ship those with the rest of the set.

As for your concernts that they will charge for itunes, I wouldn't worry about that either. Itunes primarily exists to sell music, and iTMS primarily exists to sell Ipods. It is absolutly NOT it apples intrest to do this.
 
Originally posted by DGFan
So doesn't that make it a candidate for brushed metal? Or did that part of the HIG go away with Panther?
:rolleyes:

You misunderstood what crees! ment. "Software mimicing hardware" in this case is Garageband mimicing the look of an old mixer, not a new Mac.


I like the look. Instead of giving GB a generic look to "match" the other iApps they gave it some unique style.


Lethal
 
the interface

I dunno, I like all the apps on my computer to have the same look. One of the things that bothers me about panther is the two gui styles, one brushed, one white. If it was all one or the other, that would be fine, but having a mix of the two doesn't look as good (to me).
 
Originally posted by Freg3000
Yes, $50 is great. But for me, I need to figure out a way to connect my keyboard to my computer. I am sure I am going to need to buy some similarly priced adapter or converter or something. But I have no idea. Steve kept saying, "just connect it to your Mac."

I just want to know how?

I have the same question, but with a guitar. How was John Mayer's guitar plugged in during MWSF?

I am actually asking because I was telling my friend about Garage Band (he plays guitar and records himself on a four-track). I have been trying to convince him to be a switcher and I think GB may do it, but he asked me how he would plug instruments into a computer.
 
Originally posted by pjkelnhofer
I have the same question, but with a guitar. How was John Mayer's guitar plugged in during MWSF?

I am actually asking because I was telling my friend about Garage Band (he plays guitar and records himself on a four-track). I have been trying to convince him to be a switcher and I think GB may do it, but he asked me how he would plug instruments into a computer.

I'm pretty sure you would need to buy some kind of box to send the signal from your guitar to your Mac. Just as for example you can't use a straight mic in the audio line to record, you need one that has power to send the signal.
 
Re: Re: Sync-to-playlist

Originally posted by Quobobo
Hmm, yeah.. I'm really not sure how the new feature differs from "Automatically update selected playlists only":

This is on my second generation 20gig iPod, and it has been since I started using it with iTunes 3.
Hey, I have a smart play list basically for "least recently played favourites".

When you play a song on the iPod and sync back to the mac, does it update the "last played" field?
 
after looking at theese screenshots I am very excited to find out that GB will infact allow you to record in different time signatures:

http://www.chaosmint.com/screenshots/garageband/newproj.jpg

I was a bit worried about this because as far as I remember everything played at the keynote was in 4/4 and I was afraid that apple might have decided that only "pros" use other time signatures.

also...this screenshot (http://www.chaosmint.com/screenshots/garageband/newproj.jpg) seems to imply to me that without any extra hardware (asssuming you allready have a line in) you would have the ability to record two tracks at once (channel 1/2 seems to me to be one channel of a stereo input). It also makes me think that with extra hardware (like the emagic 6 in 2 out usb thing on the GB accessories page, http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband/accessories.html) you would be able to record more simultanious tracks. or else why would it say 1/2, ie- one of two, and not just 1?

so far this seems like really good news, but I still need two more things to make this the perfect app for me: 1. I need to be able to import aiff files (surely GB will do this, but so far I've seen no evidence to support this), and 2. I need to be able to make my own loops (I've heard that Soundtrack can do this, but so far I can't seems to find out if GB will do it as well).

if anyone out there has any idea about these or other possible missing and/or discovered features, please post them here. thanks.
 
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