Garageband

[Kirk Boragine]

Okay I realize this subject has been hashed up all over the internet but I can't seem to find a definite solution and I've tried installing OS's too many times now. I think I must have Garageband on one of my disks. At the moment, I've restored a G3 dual USB iBook to 10.1.2 from the original restore disks. What I aim to do is use this iBook as a light recording device using Garageband. Where can I find it and how can I install it? I have eMac install disks, and two Panther install disks (gray). I thought Garageband was on one of the Panther disks. I've got Panther 10.3.2 and Panther 10.3.5 -is it on one of these or am I dreaming?
[doublepost=1486446428][/doublepost]Starting to think it was iLife installed on my old G4 iBook and is on the restore disks which I gave away with the computer...hmm -maybe it's only available on certain official restore disks apart from being available as a separate iLife purchase.

 

[G4fanboy]

http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ilife-ppc

 

[dustinschings]

Edited:

So the iLife 03 on Macintosh Garden is actually the original iLife I believe. That said, Garage Band did not come about until iLife 04, and therefore you will need Jaguar anyways. Sorry about the wrong info I posted here first a minute ago. I edited it away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILife#Releases_and_history

 

[Kirk Boragine]

Edited:

So the iLife 03 on Macintosh Garden is actually the original iLife I believe. That said, Garage Band did not come about until iLife 04, and therefore you will need Jaguar anyways. Sorry about the wrong info I posted here first a minute ago. I edited it away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILife#Releases_and_history

Wow. Amazing! What do you think would be best iLife 05 or iLife 06? PPC or Universal?

 

[dustinschings]

Universal just means it is compiled to work on both PPC and Intel so you want either a PPC or Universal version. As for which version, I always opt for whatever was released when the computer was released and at least one version after the computer was released. So I'd do no later than iLife 05, if it were me. (Keep in mind iLife 05 came out when G5s were the king, so G3 may be sluggish. I'd stick with 04 unless there are options in 05 that you must have.

Part of me seems to recall the "iLife 03" they have didn't work for me, but it may have been due to me not having Puma on any of my machines so it may have simply been incompatible. Worth checking out!

 

[Kirk Boragine]

Thanks! Downloading 04 and 05 now

 

[WalnutSpice]

I prefer iLife 06' on less powerful machines, like a 500MHz G4, and iLife 09 on a beefier G4 or G5. Don't know how 06 will run on a G3, but it's worth the try

 

[Kirk Boragine]

I prefer iLife 06' on less powerful machines, like a 500MHz G4, and iLife 09 on a beefier G4 or G5. Don't know how 06 will run on a G3, but it's worth the try

Why 06? I'm installing 05, (trying to). It's taking hours to transfer the last few hundred MB. Anybody know what I can do? Can I restart Finder? Will that blow what I've already copied? There must be something to do to kick the USB transfer into gear?

 

[WalnutSpice]

Why 06? I'm installing 05, (trying to). It's taking hours to transfer the last few hundred MB. Anybody know what I can do? Can I restart Finder? Will that blow what I've already copied? There must be something to do to kick the USB transfer into gear?

Honestly just because I already had them on legit Apple disks. But using them I've not ran into any major performance issues

 

[Kirk Boragine]

Honestly just because I already had them on legit Apple disks. But using them I've not ran into any major performance issues

Good to know, thanks. Wish I could figure out how to get this transfer moving. It's going to take double digit hours at this rate.

 

[dustinschings]

How did the iLife 05 install go? I actually wiped the Tiger partition on my iBook 600M yesterday and installed Puma, then 10.1.5 Combo Update. That went smooth but then I tried to install iLife 03 (original iLife) from macintoshgarden.org. It upzipped to a folder but when I tried to mount the DMG it gave an error. That is when I remembered that is exactly what happened last time I tried to use it. I think the 03 copy on MG is just corrupt or something.

 

[Kirk Boragine]

How did the iLife 05 install go? I actually wiped the Tiger partition on my iBook 600M yesterday and installed Puma, then 10.1.5 Combo Update. That went smooth but then I tried to install iLife 03 (original iLife) from macintoshgarden.org. It upzipped to a folder but when I tried to mount the DMG it gave an error. That is when I remembered that is exactly what happened last time I tried to use it. I think the 03 copy on MG is just corrupt or something.

The iLife '05 install went well, thanks for asking. Took all day for it to transfer off USB to the iBook. But yeah, file is good. Sorry to hear about '03. What are you going to do now?

 

[dustinschings]

I was going to attempt to mount the DMG on my G5 and see if I can get it mounted and files off. If not, I may just do iLife 04 with an OS upgrade to 10.2

 

[Kirk Boragine]

I was going to attempt to mount the DMG on my G5 and see if I can get it mounted and files off. If not, I may just do iLife 04 with an OS upgrade to 10.2

How'd it go? Garageband for me needs a FireWire audio interface. USB ain't cuttin' it.

 

[Dronecatcher]

How'd it go? Garageband for me needs a FireWire audio interface. USB ain't cuttin' it.

Does Garageband really work on a 600Mhz G3?

My first experience of Garageband was in 2004 on a 1Ghz G4 Powerbook - it could barely manage 4 tracks, I tried all the speed tricks but had to upgrade to a G5 iMac instead.

 

[Kirk Boragine]

Does Garageband really work on a 600Mhz G3?

My first experience of Garageband was in 2004 on a 1Ghz G4 Powerbook - it could barely manage 4 tracks, I tried all the speed tricks but had to upgrade to a G5 iMac instead.

Well, it loads everything, but yeah, no. It gives that error message about performance issues. I just figured it was my USB audio interface bottlenecking everything.

I should try it without the audio interface and see if it works recording off the built in mic and speaker playback. CPU is only about half used up. RAM is fine.

I was really disappointed yesterday. About to scrap the whole idea of using the iBook all together until I remembered I used a firewire interface with my old G4. That worked fine. All I ever use is about 4 tracks anyhow. The only other option I see is to downgrade to iLife '04 and possibly Panther as well. You got me thinkin' again.

 

[Dronecatcher]

Well for recording audio your other bottleneck is the harddrive - I'm sure the stock iBook one is 4200RPM.

I think Garageband is a bad choice, you're better off with a pro option off Macintoshgarden - even Audacity can be used to multi-track.

You could give an older version of Reaper a whirl - it's meant to need a G4 but I've heard of people running it on G3s.

Whilst I use Powerbooks for making music, I switch to a desktop to add audio tracks - in that instance Garageband is brilliant in it's simplicity and I really rate it's guitar fx and amp simulators.

 

[Kirk Boragine]

Well for recording audio your other bottleneck is the harddrive - I'm sure the stock iBook one is 4200RPM.

I think Garageband is a bad choice, you're better off with a pro option off Macintoshgarden - even Audacity can be used to multi-track.

You could give an older version of Reaper a whirl - it's meant to need a G4 but I've heard of people running it on G3s.

Whilst I use Powerbooks for making music, I switch to a desktop to add audio tracks - in that instance Garageband is brilliant in it's simplicity and I really rate it's guitar fx and amp simulators.

Good points. I just tried GB without the audio interface and it bogs down unless it's a track without effects.

I'm starting to like your ideas about using OS9/Classila (from another post) and something off Macintoshgarden for music production. I wonder if I can use my M-Audio USB interface with OS9.

 

[1042686]

Have you had a chance to try ilife04? This dvd included GB v1.0 that is rated for G3 600Mhz or better. Software instruments become available on G4 & G5 or better cpus. Here's a useful website about garageband with a community as well.

http://www.macjams.com/article.php?story=20040111121308974

Apple's ilife 04 pess release.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/01/06Apple-Announces-iLife-04.html

Audacity is another that comes to mind. They recommend at least 1Ghz cpu and 1Gb ram for basic tracking and 2 & 2 for larger multi track projects although I have a few musician buddies who have used Audacity on slower spec'd ppc ibooks without problem. Certainly, it depends on what you're doing and how realistic your expectations are. Anyhow, they still have a supported DAW for OS9 which is neat. I would give them a shot if GB1 is too sluggish for you.

http://www.audacityteam.org/download/legacy-mac/

Good luck

 

[Dronecatcher]

I'm starting to like your ideas about using OS9/Classila (from another post) and something off Macintoshgarden for music production. I wonder if I can use my M-Audio USB interface with OS9.

Might be worth checking the lists here:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,282.0.html

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,362.0.html

 

[Kirk Boragine]

By the way, what do you mean you use Powerbooks for making music? I'm a fairly seasoned player/recording engineer. I've used just about everything out there. Recording with OS9 will be a first though.
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Might be worth checking the lists here:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,282.0.html

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,362.0.html

Wow. Those lists are like a history of OS9 recording interfaces. I like it! I have a M-Audio M-Track unit at the moment. I'm sure it'll work. Requires no drivers with PPC. Probably the same with OS9.

 

[Dronecatcher]

By the way, what do you mean you use Powerbooks for making music? I'm a fairly seasoned player/recording engineer. I've used just about everything out there. Recording with OS9 will be a first though.

Yes, if you click the link in my signature, the tracks on that Bandcamp page were made on a 1.25Ghz Powerbook using Propellerhead Reason 4. The Soundcloud stuff which is guitar/rock was 50/50 Powerbook/G5 iMac. Youtube is a mix...even a Nintendo DS

 

[Kirk Boragine]

Yes, if you click the link in my signature, the tracks on that Bandcamp page were made on a 1.25Ghz Powerbook using Propellerhead Reason 4. The Soundcloud stuff which is guitar/rock was 50/50 Powerbook/G5 iMac. Youtube is a mix...even a Nintendo DS

Okay, cool. I like it. 80's fusion style. Very nice. I'll put up the new stuff I make on the iBook if I can get it working. My stuff is more rock/pop/blues/folk hahah. Simple stuff, acoustic and electric guitar with a canned drum beat. Or I can post some vids of some bands I was in. Currently I'm in a partnership with another guy working up a two piece cover band. Looking to make a few bucks on the side.
[doublepost=1486755558][/doublepost]I like the Soundcloud stuff too. More up my ally in terms of style. You've got me inspired now!

 

[Dronecatcher]

Simple stuff, acoustic and electric guitar with a canned drum beat. Or I can post some vids of some bands I was in. Currently I'm in a partnership with another guy working up a two piece cover band. Looking to make a few bucks on the side.

Hope it goes well!

Old Macs and OSX are terrific for making music as long as you acknowledge the hardware limitations...not that there are many limitations if you go G5 and higher:

http://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/apple-g5

 

[Kirk Boragine]

Hope it goes well!

Old Macs and OSX are terrific for making music as long as you acknowledge the hardware limitations...not that there are many limitations if you go G5 and higher:

http://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/apple-g5

Thanks. Now there's another possibility. The G5 looks cool. I'm wondering if I can score one of those. Tax return coming up in a few weeks! I'm streaming your Soundcloud. Very cool stuff.