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Gatekeeper Already Present in OS X 10.7.3, Available for Developer Testing

Girlfriends?

Stella said:
You turn off Gate Keeper.

But, the software may not be safe. It may trash your hard disk and steal your girlfriend. :D
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Girlfriend? Surely not many people on this forum have girlfriends, Have they? Real ones? Nah!

:D
 
faroZ06 said:
UNIX is designed so that you can't have viruses, only malware that relies on the user entering his/her password and allowing it to install.
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Uhm you do know one of the first and most famous viruses, technically a worm, infected UNIX machines right?
 
Durendal said:
But that's the question. Apple can't possibly authorize and filter every single application made by every developer who gets a certificate.
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They probably can. They already do it for iOS. If they have to hire more people, fine. The extra business will more than pay for it, and hiring more people looks better (because people assume that companies should always hire more when they become more prosperous).
 
basesloaded190 said:
It looks really difficult to turn gatekeeper off too :rolleyes:
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If someone can't figure out how to turn it off, then we have a case where it is better left turned on anyway.


Durendal said:
I'm just wondering what would stop a malware author from also getting a cert, then getting another under a different name if the first gets revoked, and so on, and so on...
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Apple might request some proof of your identity. The easist would be to sell the certificate for $1 and request that you pay with a credit card. With a contract that says if you use the certificate for malware then you are going to pay for all the damages. And a card from a jurisdiction where this is enforcable.
 
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Stella said:
Apple are taking a slowly slowly approach, if a locked down OSX is their aim. They couldn't lock down OSX now, there would be up roar.

Apple love and crave control ; The more control the better.
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My guess is it would be the version of OSX 10.9 or 10.10 when the lock down will be complete. Heck I could see them by 10.10 or 10.11 forcing everyone to go threw the Mac App store for all apps. Services like steam would be banned.
 
So this is how it begins. Eventually, it won't be voluntary. And then Apple can make sure you use what they want you to use.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
My guess is it would be the version of OSX 10.9 or 10.10 when the lock down will be complete. Heck I could see them by 10.10 or 10.11 forcing everyone to go threw the Mac App store for all apps. Services like steam would be banned.
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You know as an Apple computer user, I get the 'walled garden' concept, and in some ways I like it. However, this would be taking it wayyyy too far. I like my 3rd party freeware too much.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
My guess is it would be the version of OSX 10.9 or 10.10 when the lock down will be complete. Heck I could see them by 10.10 or 10.11 forcing everyone to go threw the Mac App store for all apps. Services like steam would be banned.
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I wouldn't mind it. First of all, I HATE Steam. Secondly, as long as I'm still getting all of the apps I need, I don't care if there is less freedom. They just need to not have tariffs on it and not restrict apps for reasons other than bad quality or maliciousness. An open-source project section would also be nice for developers.

In the end, you can get all of your apps from one place and never worry about malware or the more common junky app (Norton, anyone?). If you are advanced, you can take the risk of downloading betas.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
My guess is it would be the version of OSX 10.9 or 10.10 when the lock down will be complete. Heck I could see them by 10.10 or 10.11 forcing everyone to go threw the Mac App store for all apps. Services like steam would be banned.
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My bet iOS Desktop ( aka OS 11 ) will be the locked down edition, *if* it happens at all.
 
Heilage said:
So this is how it begins. Eventually, it won't be voluntary. And then Apple can make sure you use what they want you to use.
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Rest easy. If Apple removes Terminal.app then you can worry, until that happens there’s nothing to worry about.
 
spazzcat said:
I don't get why you wouldn't buy your app from the app store if its there?
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I regularly choose non MAS versions of software, if available, simply because it won't be a stripped down version. For example, Drive Genius, 1Password, Photoshop Elements.
 
faroZ06 said:
I was assuming it would be interpreted as "the current UNIX that people actually use".
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Still false. While *NIX is orders of magnitude less prone to viruses, it is not immune. To suggest otherwise creates a false starting point for discussion of security.
 
faroZ06 said:
I wouldn't mind it. First of all, I HATE Steam. Secondly, as long as I'm still getting all of the apps I need, I don't care if there is less freedom. They just need to not have tariffs on it and not restrict apps for reasons other than bad quality or maliciousness. An open-source project section would also be nice for developers.

In the end, you can get all of your apps from one place and never worry about malware or the more common junky app (Norton, anyone?). If you are advanced, you can take the risk of downloading betas.
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Open source projects would be banned. Firefox would be an example of a service that would get axed from OSX.
There are quite a few little programs people use that break out of the walled garden.
Under the walled rules MS Office not be allowed nor would many programs we use.

Any IDE would be banned as well.
 
i have to say that getting people slowly used to it so no one will bitch once 10.9 Tigon with App Store only support comes out is pretty smart marketing. it will be the the most secure mac os x i'm sorry os x .... yet (and the extra few bucks for each app certainly dont hurt either) :eek:
 
my mom, my dad would have NO idea what button to press when getting that dialog box.

and I got them a mac to avoid pc copnfusion they sufered for year.

get back to common sense verbiage boys...
 
"You should move it to the Trash". Wow, that's a bit harsh. Should I also piss on it and kick it first?
 
This is very disturbing. Security reasons? ********. This is an obvious step towards controlling the software running on Macs.

You see, OS X is a fantastic system but there is something it lacks.

The system assumes you are not familiar with technology and programming. That's not a bad thing - after all, it's supposed to 'just work'. But the problem is, there are things OSX does not tell you. The system is not open enough to let you control its inner layers. It is designed not to trust you.

This is why my primary OS is a good old Linux. And there is a good reason to use it. If i want to execute "sudo rm -rf /", that is my own decision. You have the right to be stupid. And Apple is trying to take this right from you.

This is how Apple explains why they are introducing the Gatekeeper:

An average OSX user is a moron and therefore we (Apple) must keep our users away from all the evil of this world.
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Come on guys, how many of you ever had malware issues on a Mac? We know what we should install and what we should avoid. Especially us geeks. OSX is secure enough already, there is no reason for introducing Gatekeeper, besides tighter control over software running on Macs.

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
 
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Nermal said:
Do you have a reference for that? I've seen a couple of people mention it but I'm having trouble with finding official documentation stating that a Developer ID is free.
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You have to be a registered ($99/year) developer but once you are you can obtain the developer ID at no extra cost.
 
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