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cannono

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There are unboxings in the wild now of Youtubers and such opening the new Air. Should this mean Geekbench scores will likely turn up? Are they already out?

The iPad Pro 2018 models have had their scores appear today on Geekbench already
 

flowsy

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Found this on Twitter:

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Ma2k5

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cannono

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Unless that is a name error, that can't be correct as the processor that is used in the new Air is an i5-8210Y, not i5-8200Y which is considerably weaker.
[doublepost=1541081769][/doublepost]Found this: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10565877

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Not sure how accurate this is though!

The single is respectable, the multi however falls quite short of the new 15W Whiskeylake (which can go up to ~14,500).
Yeah this thing is fine for an Air, which works for casual browsing and work tasks, but likely wouldn’t fare well in more intense editing and creative work.
 

Woodcrest64

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Yeah this thing is fine for an Air, which works for casual browsing and work tasks, but likely wouldn’t fare well in more intense editing and creative work.

I do quite a bit 24mp photo editing and 1080/60p video editing on my 2012 15" Macbook Pro which scores a little higher than the current MacBook Air. Compared to the newer Macbook Pro the Macbook Air is certainly a weaker system but compared to my MacBook Pro it seems to fair quite well.
 

turbineseaplane

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I really worry about the longevity of the MacBook Air this time around if, when new, it’s not much faster than 12 inch MacBooks and the old MacBook airs.

It’s not like this is priced at some value and to have it be bogged down and out of date within a year or two is really going to kill the product line for the target market in mind.

The other frustrating part is that there are no CPU upgrade options here.
What you see is what you get and that’s it.
 
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AgustoPinochet

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I was surprised they were still making the air, If Apple could make the Macbook (non-Pro) a little faster it could replace the air I would think.
 

fokmik

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People,there is no ADN from the Air in this new laptop,just the name that apple puts it after Macbook
This is just an bigger brother of 12 macbook
 

filmbuff

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Not very much faster than my 2012 i5 Air? Ouch. I really want one of these new MBAs but lately my computer has been running into limits with editing photos and playing 4k video. If the new one is going to have the same issues within a couple years that forces me up to the MBP, but then I'm paying $2000+ to get enough storage.

It almost makes me want to get the new iPad Pro which is actually more powerful, but that still lacks a couple of features that a real computer would have (like being able to torrent files easily).
 

Wags

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Not very good Geekbench scores but the mba is for light to medium duty. Pricey considering ntb13 stronger. Yes, nice form factor and maybe great battery life. That really seems it. Apple updating mba that lots want but once again holding back features/performance.
 

vaugha

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Not very much faster than my 2012 i5 Air? Ouch. I really want one of these new MBAs but lately my computer has been running into limits with editing photos and playing 4k video. If the new one is going to have the same issues within a couple years that forces me up to the MBP, but then I'm paying $2000+ to get enough storage.

It almost makes me want to get the new iPad Pro which is actually more powerful, but that still lacks a couple of features that a real computer would have (like being able to torrent files easily).

Agreed. Torrenting is one of the reasons why I still think tablets cannot replace laptops yet. It looks really nice though. Haven't seen a boxy shaped ipad since the 1st gen I think.
 

auduchinok

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Not very much faster than my 2012 i5 Air? Ouch. I really want one of these new MBAs but lately my computer has been running into limits with editing photos and playing 4k video.
There's hardware 4K decoding in newer CPUs, so at least playing many of these won't even be a moderate task for the Air.
 

Woodcrest64

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I think the Macbook Air will really shine in the next 2-3 years if that's when Apple plans on having its ARM based processors in them.
 

Howard2k

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It’ll be interesting to see the rest of the specs and the benchmarks under sustained loads.
 

0014

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This is my early 2015 MBP 13”. 2.9ghz I5 with 8gb and 512gb SSD. Running the latest Mojave beta.

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If the benchmark earlier in the thread is true then I think I’ll hold off. Was looking to upgrade but pointless me doing so if all I get as an upgrade is a smaller lighter device with the same power. Oh and USB-C.
 

EugW

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Unless that is a name error, that can't be correct as the processor that is used in the new Air is an i5-8210Y, not i5-8200Y which is considerably weaker.
[doublepost=1541081769][/doublepost]Found this: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10565877

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Not sure how accurate this is though!

The single is respectable, the multi however falls quite short of the new 15W Whiskeylake (which can go up to ~14,500).
That’s pretty weak, as my 2017 MacBook Core m3 scores within 10% of that. However, I predict the MBA will score higher, once we have more tests, since GB 4 results can vary a fair bit, esp. when lots of stuff is running in the background.

My prediction is around 4500/8500... which is what the 2017 MacBook Core i7 can get. Why? Cuz the i5-8210Y is effectively akin to a rebadge of the i7-7Y75 running at 7 W. Basically the same specs, including both the base and turbo clock speeds at 7 W.

The i5-8210Y MBA with fan should do better at sustained performance, but if that’s what’s you need you should think hard about getting a thinner refurb MacBook Pro.

BTW, at 7 W, the 8200Y is actually superior to the 8210Y. Higher turbo speed.
 
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That’s pretty weak, as my 2017 MacBook Core m3 scores within 10% of that. However, I predict the MBA will score higher, once we have more tests, since GB 4 results can vary a fair bit, esp. when lots of stuff is running in the background.

My prediction is around 4500/8500... which is what the 2017 MacBook Core i7 can get. Why? Cuz the i5-8210Y is effectively akin to a rebadge of the i7-7Y75 running at 7 W. Basically the same specs, including both the base and turbo clock speeds at 7 W.

The i5-8210Y MBA with fan should do better at sustained performance, but if that’s what’s you need you should think hard about getting a thinner refurb MacBook Pro.

BTW, at 7 W, the 8200Y is actually superior to the 8210Y. Higher turbo speed.
no not really as the 8210y has a higher clock rate 1.6Ghz tb to 3.6 ghz and the 8200y which is 1.3ghz tb to 3.9gtz
 

AppleHaterLover

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So it’s slower than the cheapest Pro by quite a margin, has much worse graphics than the cheapest Pro, and costs almost the same as the cheapest Pro.

I think:

a) at $ 1,299 (probably less than that) the current nTB Pro is a steal
b) Apple will very probably discontinue the nTB MBP and
b.1) consolidate their current strategy of offering less for more (i.e. less performance at the same price).

Outrageous.
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How about sustained loads?

I don’t think it’ll do fine in that department. It has active cooling and a low TDP. Unless Apple decided to underengineer it on purpose as they did with the i9s
 

RegularGuy09

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The 2018 Air is not slower than the 2017 nTB Pro by a significant margin. I would say it will probably have similar performance in normal day to day tasks. There's not much difference in their geekbench scores. And the RAMs and SSDs are similar in performance. The graphics performance is better in the Pro.

If people need that minor improvement in performance, sure get the Pro. But its not something most people NEED or notice in their day to day life, its just people here in MR who obsess over things like Geekbench scores. I think if you need the performance you're better off getting the TB Pro, while the Air is the best bet if you are a casual user who wants a everyday laptop.

The Air is $100 cheaper, and has way more practical improvements over the Pro, which people will notice and love, over it. Like the fact its lighter, has a tapered design, has touch ID, and extra 2hrs battery life. Not to mention it has the 3rd gen keyboard. All real practical considerations.
 

defferoo

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Geekbench score for 2012 i5 Air : 2339 4682
Geekbench score for 2018 i5 Air : 4248 7828

Wouldnt call it "not much faster". Never mind the MUCH MUCH faster SSD, the faster wifi, the faster RAM,graphics etc etc.
why would you compare with the 2012 model... they updated the air in 2015. and yes, it’s faster, but it should be A LOT faster cause intel bumped the 15W processors to quad-core. unfortunately Apple decided to change to the low power processors. ughhhhhh
 

gman901

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I was planning on getting the Air but after seeing those benchmarks, I think last year's MacBook is a better deal. I don't need 2 USB C ports and TB3 seems like overkill with such a weak processor.
 
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