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"As noted, suspension of belief is advised without any official confirmation, but we shouldn't have to wait long before more concrete results begin appearing in the wild."

LOL that really made my day. I thought I was supposed to believe everything the interweb says.

The 400MHz clock speed could be just a software thing too, since the CPU is all new and GB might not be able to read the speed properly, or prototypes don't run the same O/S as what will ship to hide some details deliberately.
 
How can you figure a performance based on what has not been played with ? You could go by the chip, but since this is still all rumored, that over-rules everything.
 
This has to be Apple controlled media leaks to rev up the fan base who have been somewhat unhappy for a long time. Who exactly is using an iPhone 7 yet? Apple?
 
Make calls, look at emails, text people and look at the internet, facebook and twitter. Yes, a great need for "desktop-class computing performance".

These new iPhones are going to be the fastest and most powerful smartphones anyone has ever seen before. We're talking desktop-class computing performance in these latest-gen devices. Truly incredible. I can't wait to see what I can do with them.
 
has anyone already commented that this A10 is faster than any Skylake processor, intel sucks and apple should put their processors in the new MacbookPro?

Might want to look at the Core i7-6700K before making claims like that about the entire Skylake range. I'm sure it's a close call with the lower clocked, low power mobile Skylake processors in the range, but that's because they're a design compromise for making thin, low-powered mobile systems.
 
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Best Upgrade ever? I say definitely!:

iPhone 5

Bigger screen
Better Front Camera
LTE
Lightning Connector
Better Battery
new Processor (+160% speed)

iPhone 5s

EarPods (bundle)
TouchID
Better Back Camera (True Tone Flash)
M7 Motion Processor
Better Battery
new Processor (+65% speed)

iPhone 6 Plus

Bigger screen
Better Back Camera (OIS)
New Storage Option
Barometer
NFC
Better Battery
new Processor (+22% speed)

iPhone 6s Plus

More RAM
Taptic Engine
Better Back Camera (12MP)
Force Touch
new Processor (+63% speed)

iPhone 7 Plus

More RAM
New Storage Options
Water Resistance IPX7
AirPods (bundle)
Wide Color Display
Better Back Camera (Dual Lens, 4k 60 FPS)
New Capacitive Home Button
New Taptic Engine
New "Mystery Port" on the Backside
Better Battery
Apple Pencil Support (?)
new Processor (+40% speed)
 
I love the iPad Pro I own... I hate Safari on it. Just try scrolling, and you will be irritate within seconds, on larger sites.

Next year's iPhone might be truly impressive, when it shrinks the die and increases power again.
 
9,3 could refer to the fact there were going to be 3 models this year, 7 (9,1), 7 Plus single camera (9,2) and 7 Pro dual camera (9,3). When they scrapped the single camera plus they renamed 7 Pro to 7 Plus and kept the identifier as 9,3. Will be interesting to see if iPhone 7 is 9,1 and 7 Plus is 9,3.
 
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For reference:

Geekbench 4 Results

Galaxy S7 Exynos: 1809/5212
Galaxy S7 820: 1551/3821
iPhone 6S: 2409/4049

No Note 7 results up yet (Geekbench needs a minimum number of tests before the numbers hit their charts).

You want to know why the iPhone 6S is so fast you only need to look at the single core results.


Edited: I love all the comments about not needing any more power. Processor power is what drives innovation in software. How are developers supposed to come up with the "latest & greatest" if they're stuck using hardware that's "just good enough" for the average person? Thankfully this is not how the computer industry works and we have people always pushing for more. Otherwise innovation would stall.
 
Good news, everyone: I had a psychic dream which confirms these results!

Seriously, the A10 will probably have great performance, but this benchmark doesn't mean anything. Not that it couldn't be true but there's no reason to give it any credibility.
 
For reference:

Geekbench 4 Results

Galaxy S7 Exynos: 1809/5212
Galaxy S7 820: 1551/3821
iPhone 6S: 2409/4049

Seriously, these are the lowest S7 scores I've ever seen.

Here are more realistic results:
SD820: 2318, 5452
Exynos: 2063, 6267
 
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Very misleading list, as you've omitted a large number of minor upgrades to basically every generation except for the (rumored) 7, where you're included absolutely everything you can think of.

Give me some examples? I was very attentive to only include features on the same level in the list (i.e. I mentioned RAM, Processor and Camera on nearly every model.
Of course everyone has a slightly different definition of what ist "minor" or "major". But these features were all the main selling points via apple marketing materials.
 
That single-core A10 geekbench result is insane if true. There are some Android SoC's that are competitive on a multi-core result but they usual require 4-8 cores to achieve that and so it's not necessarily indicative of real-world performance for typical tasks. The single-core result is the most important for typical everyday use.
 
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Edited: I love all the comments about not needing any more power. Processor power is what drives innovation in software. How are developers supposed to come up with the "latest & greatest" if they're stuck using hardware that's "just good enough" for the average person? Thankfully this is not how the computer industry works and we have people always pushing for more. Otherwise innovation would stall.

You miss the point. Like many here have said, a smartphone is not used for the same things one would want (or need) a powerful computer for. So, the point many have made is, why do we need desktop performance in a 4.7" screen device that the majority of people only use for email, texting, social media, and watching movies?

The computer industry does need faster systems and storage to do real work. For Apple, new and improved means thinner and faster, neither are really necessary if you listen to what people are saying. They want features, not thinner and faster. I certainly am not complaining that my iPhone 6 is slow.
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That single-core A10 geekbench result is insane if true. There are some Android SoC's that are competitive on a multi-core result but they usual require 4-8 cores to achieve that and so it's not necessarily indicative of real-world performance for typical tasks. The single-core result is the most important for typical everyday use.
Apple has probably tweaked the A10 to generate high Geekbench results. GeekBench-gate. I see it coming. :)
 
Seriously, these are the lowest S7 scores I've ever seen.

Here are more realistic results:
SD820: 2318, 5452
Exynos: 2063, 6267

Sorry, but there are loads of fake scores for Android devices. My scores are the official ones from Primate Labs (maker of Geekbench) and represents the average of thousands of scores.
 
So for next year's A11 in the iPhone 8, which will be 10nm, the single-core score should be north of 4,000 and multi-core score approaching 7,000? Amazing what a handheld smartphone can do, at least in theory given typical real-world usage.
 
you used geekbench 3 dude...
Sorry, missed the 4.
There is something seriously wrong with Geekbench 4. Huawei's Kirin 955 beats Snapdragon 820 in single core performance, which doesn't seem to fit with anything we've seen in any other benchmark including Geekbench 3 or even real life performance.
 
You miss the point. Like many here have said, a smartphone is not used for the same things one would want (or need) a powerful computer for. So, the point many have made is, why do we need desktop performance in a 4.7" screen device that the majority of people only use for email, texting, social media, and watching movies?

The computer industry does need faster systems and storage to do real work. For Apple, new and improved means thinner and faster, neither are really necessary if you listen to what people are saying. They want features, not thinner and faster. I certainly am not complaining that my iPhone 6 is slow.

Next gen features require power. I made a list in the other thread, but tasks that require power are things like speech recognition (Siri) that's always right regardless of background noise or how you speak. Or cameras that instantly take perfect pictures without you having to wait for focus or adjust exposure. Or a real-time speech translator that also always gets it right. These are simple features that ordinary people would use.

You need to have some imagination about possible uses instead of thinking only of common tasks like e-mail or messaging.
 
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Sorry, missed the 4.
There is something seriously wrong with Geekbench 4. Huawei's Kirin 955 beats Snapdragon 820 in single core performance, which doesn't seem to fit with anything we've seen in any other benchmark including Geekbench 3 or even real life performance.

maybe qualcomm didnt implement their 'optimizations' yet
 
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