Too bad some of the other machines appear to be on an upgrade cycle rivaling the return of Haley's Comet.
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Geekbench Shows 2018 MacBook Pro Has Biggest Yearly Performance Gain Since 2011
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And the touch bar. Plenty of people don't like the touch bar, and they're not unreasonable for not liking it. I'm hanging on to my 2012 until it does, and then probably getting some other comany's laptop to run Linux on if there's touch bar free 15 inch model at the time. At least bring the function keys back underneath it. Ideally cut the price and cut the touch bar completely.
umm, 8250 is not the same chip. https://ark.intel.com/compare/135935,124967. the 8259 used in the MBP is quite a bit faster. has a top of 28, the 8250 can boost to 25. I'm not sure at what point you are trying to make
Compare the price of the current Touch Bar MacBook Pro to a 15" MacBook Pro from 2011 or 2015, even accounting for inflation, and you'll see what I mean. The price of a 2011 15" MacBook Pro plus inflation is still almost $400 cheaper.
Probably like my 2014, e.g. no throttling whatsoever in 4 core full load
Really curious how hot (and loud) this top of the line 15" gets under load...
Of course, gamers have never flocked to Macs. Did you read the Verge review on the Razer? "you could fry a steak on it", fast graphics though, until it throttles or craps out.
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you haven't figured out that higher is better on Geekbench?
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lets all give Intel a big sigh of relief for finally improving specs. Maybe Ryzen blowing their barn doors off, had some impact, eh?
Yeah, I was disappointed to find that Photoshop was just as sluggish on a 27" iMac with the highest graphics and processor as it was on my old 2012 13" MBP.
I hate when Mac versions of programs are not as snappy as their Windows counterparts
it's 2018 and people are still complaining about the graphics chip in a macbook pro. when will these people quit?
Someone posted a 7lb neon monster the other day, with dual 1080’s, that requires two (2!) 330w power supplies plugged into it to be used for more than two hours and complained that the new MBP had worse graphical performance than it. Where do you even start with that?
Really? this isn't a Dell or a Razor. Probably gets warm and barely audible. My 2014 MBP has a 47 watt versus a 45 watt in the new i9 MBP, mine barely gets warm, and the fans don't come on often even when graphics card is engaged. You know that has been the whole emphasis of intel development over the last 5 years or so, faster, cooler performance?
This is to say nothing of the horror stories about Razer's customer support, if something does wind up breaking.
That being said: the MBP is in a good place, graphics-wise. The GPU is serviceable for lighter gaming load, and eGPU configurations means that if you want to be doing AAA gaming with maxed-out settings, you can do so while at your desk.
Probably with the fact that they should be running that unit off of a single, higher wattage PSU.
Who buys a 330W PSU for a custom rig, anyway?
true, so true, expected to change this year though as intel finally upped their game again. For all the complaints on refresh, the bottom line is the "old" configs are pretty much as fast as a refresh would be, prior to coffee lake of course.
Wow, a very small difference between the 2.2GHz and the 2.6GHz procs. The 2.6GHz model may not be worth the extra $100 now... I might need to rethink what model I want..
Hope I don't see a performance drop going from a 2.53GHz dual core Core 2 Duo to a 2.2GHz i7-8750H
Are you just joking? A modern i7 is a huge difference from Core 2 Duo. There are significant changes in the architecture and the amount of cache is significantly higher. Hardware 10-bit HEVC. We're talking about 9MB vs 3. 12MB L3 on the i9! The system bus is significantly faster. The PCIe x3 NVMe is singificantly faster. The I/O is insanely fast. When you look at the entire system as a whole these 2018s are monsters compared to the pre-retina MBPs even with maxed out memory and a data SSD. PCIe 3 is just in a different league. It's also much much faster than the PCIe 2 in the 3rd gen 2012-2015 retina MBPs.
Anyone that wants a great MBP will get what they're paying for with these machines. The 13" models are better than ever. They should be useful for many years to come.
Given how competitive AMD has been in the last 2 years, I wouldn't be suspenseful if these yearly gains start becoming the norm rather than the exception. I'm sure we will see octa core CPUs in the 15" sooner than later. It all depends how well AMD does with mobile. On the desktop Intel has no choice but to keep offering more cores until AMD hits a roadblock.
Lol no. You clearly have the wrong number (the Macbook is over twice as fast). People keep forgetting that a tablet is not a PC.
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Rendering advanced graphics is a pro-level functionality that Macbook Pros (and Apple products in general) lack despite their high prices.
Not in single core which is what I need for my 3D modeling software:
https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks
That machine is still the fastest single core Mac available (one year later).
Saying they can’t render advanced graphics because they don’t match the GPU performance of a gaming is however a false equivalence.
This cracked me up, but it is true.
I looked into it and the mid-cycle unibodies are the odd ones out, starting at $1800 baseline in 2011, even the first unibodies in 2008 started at $2000. Why mid-cycle ones were cheaper than the original MBPs ($2000 in 2007 = $2430 now) and the retina MBPs ($2200 in 2012 = $2415 now), I couldn’t tell you. Lower prices for the recession perhaps? Considering that the current MBPs are actually cheaper (relatively) than two of the past three iterations, I think $2400 is a very fair price of entry for the 15”. Storage really is what causes these prices to start looking crazy.
Can you find a 2017 gaming laptop on ebay that sold for peanuts? Seems $1000-$1500.
no offense dude, your argument makes no sense. If you don't like the Touch Bar, there is nor requirement to use it, just don't. seems more functional than a row of keys that no one uses. And you really think that the cost of a Touch Bar would change the price of a MBP by? $4, $12, seriously what is your learned estimate?
I wasn't making an equivalence. Apple products tend to lack in graphical TFLOPS power despite being pro devices. That's a fact.
I hope my mid-2015 MBP never breaks. £2,500? No thanks
by the sounds of your elegant comment, you already have it gainfully employed