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genius in itunes 8.... big brother?

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bob2131

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how do you guys feel about itunes gathering your library info.
they say its anonymous.
but....... do you trust them?

what about all you guys who illegally download.

what happens when itunes and apple have access to this info?

nice idea tho.
 
This is no different than the mini store. I trust them, it is Apple after all, Apple is no fan of the RIAA.

TEG
 
TEG said:
This is no different than the mini store. I trust them, it is Apple after all, Apple is no fan of the RIAA.

TEG
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mini store? whats that?

trust them? how can you be so naive?
TRUST NO ONE!!!

no fan of the RIAA??

apple dont like illegal downloaing = less money for them.
RIAA dont like downloading.
RIAA and apple shoould be friends.

(im not too sure who the RIAA are, download police? )
 
Where on earth did this come from?

You can't tell if a song is illegally downloaded my friend...for all they know, you've ripped it off a CD you bought and imported it to the iTunes library.

Chill a bit.
 
Just about any computer, when it does software updates, sends info over the net. This is no different. If they can use my song choices, to make more intelligent lists, then more power to them.
 
lol

ive only one album in my itunes on my mac.
in rainbows.


i used genius playlist on it.....results were NADA.
nothing.


how does genius work?
what if songs aint labled properly?

yeah but it sounds good. .... once it gets up and running.

i dont trust this genius thing.

i dont need no recommendations.
i make my own.
all i listen to is one song.
arpeggi.
im happy. 😀
 
RIAA - Recording Industry Association of America, A union of the largest record labels in the US.

There is almost no way to tell if a song was illegally downloaded, as the only data sent is the title, artist, album, and genre.

TEG
 
bob2131 said:
how do you guys feel about itunes gathering your library info.
they say its anonymous.
but....... do you trust them?
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Yes.
bob2131 said:
what about all you guys who illegally download.
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They get on with it regardless.
bob2131 said:
what happens when itunes and apple have access to this info?
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They know what songs you have in your iTunes library, your tastes, etc.

bob2131 said:
apple dont like illegal downloaing = less money for them.
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What's that? WHAT!? Someone HASN'T bought the latest Kings of Leon single from iTunes?! THEY MUST HAVE ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADED IT FROM LIMEWIRE! GET THEM!

It's not "Every time you illegally download, a little piece of Steve Jobs dies"

Now come Mr Smith, off to bed we go, take some of your "Smarties".
 
Actually, they DO know whether or not you purchased a song

I just did an experiement. A friend purchased a song from iTunes. He then sent me the .m4a file (note, he did NOT burn/rip it to mp3).

I added the file to MY iTunes library and it worked just FINE (thanks to the recent iTunes+ initiative - DRM-free purchases).

Yay, right?

Wrong.

If I look at the "Get Info" popup for the song in MY library, it not only shows me the size, sample rate, bit rate, etc. but it ALSO shows who the song was Purchased By, the Account Name & the Purchase Date.

So, with iTunes Genius, they can not only tell what songs are in my library, but they can also tell whether or not it was ME who purchased those songs, or if they were purchased by someone else.

Big Brother *IS* watching... unplug your computer!
 
GreatRewards said:
I just did an experiement. A friend purchased a song from iTunes. He then sent me the .m4a file (note, he did NOT burn/rip it to mp3).

I added the file to MY iTunes library and it worked just FINE (thanks to the recent iTunes+ initiative - DRM-free purchases).

Yay, right?

Wrong.

If I look at the "Get Info" popup for the song in MY library, it not only shows me the size, sample rate, bit rate, etc. but it ALSO shows who the song was Purchased By, the Account Name & the Purchase Date.

So, with iTunes Genius, they can not only tell what songs are in my library, but they can also tell whether or not it was ME who purchased those songs, or if they were purchased by someone else.

Big Brother *IS* watching... unplug your computer!
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This only counts for music purchased thru iTunes, not for music ripped from CD.
 
GreatRewards said:
I just did an experiement. A friend purchased a song from iTunes. He then sent me the .m4a file (note, he did NOT burn/rip it to mp3).

I added the file to MY iTunes library and it worked just FINE (thanks to the recent iTunes+ initiative - DRM-free purchases).

Yay, right?

Wrong.

If I look at the "Get Info" popup for the song in MY library, it not only shows me the size, sample rate, bit rate, etc. but it ALSO shows who the song was Purchased By, the Account Name & the Purchase Date.

So, with iTunes Genius, they can not only tell what songs are in my library, but they can also tell whether or not it was ME who purchased those songs, or if they were purchased by someone else.

Big Brother *IS* watching... unplug your computer!
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In case you didn't know that is not DRM.
 
When I look at my iTunes-purchased song I don't see that information in the Get Info popup. And of course anything that comes up in the editable fields you can just change. I looked up songs I had purchased through Amazon and also saw nothing identifying where it came from. Same with tunes I'd recorded off the internet, ripped from CDs or received over email from friends.

I think that if a tune whose info is written in a certain way (misspellings, name of the ripper in the comments) or has some other odd characteristic shows up on a bunch of people's "anonymous" genius submissions, that would ring a bell.
 
GreatRewards said:
I just did an experiement. A friend purchased a song from iTunes. He then sent me the .m4a file (note, he did NOT burn/rip it to mp3).

I added the file to MY iTunes library and it worked just FINE (thanks to the recent iTunes+ initiative - DRM-free purchases).

Yay, right?

Wrong.

If I look at the "Get Info" popup for the song in MY library, it not only shows me the size, sample rate, bit rate, etc. but it ALSO shows who the song was Purchased By, the Account Name & the Purchase Date.

So, with iTunes Genius, they can not only tell what songs are in my library, but they can also tell whether or not it was ME who purchased those songs, or if they were purchased by someone else.

Big Brother *IS* watching... unplug your computer!
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no ****, sherlock. The account information is embedded in the file, so of course it's going to show up.
 
Genius is pretty great. I have to admit I've used it tons since it came out, and I scarcely expected I would.

Of course I also don't pirate much music. 🙄
 
mkrishnan said:
Genius is pretty great. I have to admit I've used it tons since it came out, and I scarcely expected I would.

Of course I also don't pirate much music. 🙄
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Same. It has turned up some tracks that I have been looking for, for years but I never knew the artist or what the track was called.
 
bob2131 said:
how do you guys feel about itunes gathering your library info.
they say its anonymous.
but....... do you trust them?

what about all you guys who illegally download.

what happens when itunes and apple have access to this info?

nice idea tho.
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Genius is useful; I pay for music; and they can't tell between ripped CDs and downloaded anyways.

You're paranoid which means you should stop illegally downloading music.

kthxbai

AND THIS THREAD IS OLD.
 
nice idea....never used it....

dont care anymore......

apple as a company are too controlling.....or want to be.....
 
i think it's really good. clever, but deadly. Make's you spend more. I think there is a bit too much paranoia around here. Your never 100% invisible when connected to any network, limited information can be accessed whether you like it or not.

Thus, I really do think its a good idea. besides, you can always turn the feature off, disconnect from the internet, lock all your doors & keep a shotgun at your side if need be...
 
I'm fine with Apple getting the info it needs for Genius. I have a very large music collection and Genius lists are a great tool, for me. I don't quite get the trust issue. What is Apple gonna find out, that I have a weak spot for bubble gum music that makes most people ill?
 
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