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So many people here are wrong... Apps DO relaunch after a reboot and in the background they do use ram and other various system resources and DO slow down the phone at certain tasks when there are a fair amount of apps running in the background. They may be frozen but the have to be kept somewhere in the system and that place is the RAM.
 
So many people here are wrong... Apps DO relaunch after a reboot and in the background they do use ram and other various system resources and DO slow down the phone at certain tasks when there are a fair amount of apps running in the background. They may be frozen but the have to be kept somewhere in the system and that place is the RAM.

^^^ This is all correct. It's amazing that this has been covered a thousand times on here and people that claim genius's are ignorant to how iOS works are just as confused as they are.

As far as the apple store visit. Why would you put up a fuss about how something works, why do you give a **** what they tell other people?? You're there to get your phone replaced. Your attitude is the YOU know it all Shen in fact it's been proven you don't.

I find in any situation, when I know something is wrong with a product and I need to get it fixed/replaced,whatever. Being calm and letting them do tests and tell me information that I know isn't true, without arguing gets me what I went there for.

I think some of you get your rocks off by telling someone at a apple store that they are wrong. :rolleyes:
 
I've always found the people on Genius Bars in London (Regent St & Covent Garden) are excellent - very friendly, knowledgeable, patient - everything you could want. I don't usually find the UK to be very good generally in levels of service, but the Apple Stores are a marked exception
 
I had a similar experience when my home button went bad. I had already been through several replacement iPhone 4s for various issues. I had finally gotten one I was happy with, and a few months later, the home button started acting wonky. It would register double clicks as single clicks, single clicks as double clicks. Sometimes I would click once and nothing would happen, and then I'd click again and it would open the multi tasking bar as if it saved the first click for later. After completely restoring to factory settings and reinstalling all my apps from scratch, I took it into the Apple store.

The genius would not help me because I couldn't recreate it at the store. He said all home buttons do this and that it's "all about timing". He also took the back off of my phone and blew dust out of the home button, and appeared to have slipped with the screwdriver in the process because there was a nice scratch on my phone's antenna band when all was said and done.

I walked out unsatisfied, and that afternoon, the home button was back to its same bad behavior. I made another appointment and took it back in. Of course, I was not able to recreate the problem at the store, and I also ended up getting the same genius. His body language said it all--he leaned back against the back counter behind the genius bar and more or less said, he wouldn't look at it again and would not replace the phone even if he could get it to happen at the store. He maintained his belief that the issues I was describing happen to ALL iPhones and iPods.

I was furious. When I got home, I called Apple Care and complained to a manager. She sent me a brand new in the box iPhone 4--still shrink wrapped and everything because she decided I had too many problems with the refurb units I was given in the past. That's the phone I have to this day.
 
I had a similar experience when my home button went bad. I had already been through several replacement iPhone 4s for various issues. I had finally gotten one I was happy with, and a few months later, the home button started acting wonky. It would register double clicks as single clicks, single clicks as double clicks. Sometimes I would click once and nothing would happen, and then I'd click again and it would open the multi tasking bar as if it saved the first click for later. After completely restoring to factory settings and reinstalling all my apps from scratch, I took it into the Apple store.

The genius would not help me because I couldn't recreate it at the store. He said all home buttons do this and that it's "all about timing". He also took the back off of my phone and blew dust out of the home button, and appeared to have slipped with the screwdriver in the process because there was a nice scratch on my phone's antenna band when all was said and done.

I walked out unsatisfied, and that afternoon, the home button was back to its same bad behavior. I made another appointment and took it back in. Of course, I was not able to recreate the problem at the store, and I also ended up getting the same genius. His body language said it all--he leaned back against the back counter behind the genius bar and more or less said, he wouldn't look at it again and would not replace the phone even if he could get it to happen at the store. He maintained his belief that the issues I was describing happen to ALL iPhones and iPods.

I was furious. When I got home, I called Apple Care and complained to a manager. She sent me a brand new in the box iPhone 4--still shrink wrapped and everything because she decided I had too many problems with the refurb units I was given in the past. That's the phone I have to this day.

Same here except I've been through 4 of those nice shrink wrapped ones because 1 had a broken sleep wake out the box. the other home button got stuck. The other speaker broke.

Now my 4th one is fine right now.

Never ever seen such bad QC on a Apple product before.
 
Best explanation I've seen for multitasking http://whenwillapple.com/blog/2010/04/19/iphone-os-4-multitasking-explained-again/

Worth a read. Cleared it up for me.

And no, its not my blog, it's just something I found a long time ago that really helped when iOS 4 was being talked about before release.

I concede that the phone probably seems slow in cases where it's having trouble freeing more ram for new apps. Instances when I load Infinity Blade really cause some lag before the phone has killed enough suspended apps to give IB enough memory.
 
So many people here are wrong... Apps DO relaunch after a reboot and in the background they do use ram and other various system resources and DO slow down the phone at certain tasks when there are a fair amount of apps running in the background. They may be frozen but the have to be kept somewhere in the system and that place is the RAM.

100% Wrong. Apps do not relaunch after a reboot. I promise you.

Reboot your phone. Now double tap the home button and pick an app from the tray. 100% guaranteed it does a full app launch. 100%.

If it was relaunched and back in memory, it would switch to it instantlky and be instantly usable, just like if you were to launch an app, close it, and go back into it. But it doesnt do that, does it? No it doesn't because its not running after a reboot. The RAM is cleared.

For further clarification, jailbreak your phone. Open a bunch of apps then check available memory using sbsettings. Now relaunch and check available memory. If the numbers are different (hint: they will be vastly different), then I'm right.
 
I've always found the people on Genius Bars in London (Regent St & Covent Garden) are excellent - very friendly, knowledgeable, patient - everything you could want. I don't usually find the UK to be very good generally in levels of service, but the Apple Stores are a marked exception

I went to the Covent Garden store just a few days ago, and definitely agree with you there. Very helpful, basically everything you mentioned, and swapped out my phone after a couple of minutes of testing (dodgy/loose power button). Yet my more local store claimed some phones were just like that :confused: No worries, I'm good now ;)
 
I don't know if its semantics or what but when I reboot my phone and then immediately check my tray, every app that was there before the reboot is still there.
Built-in apps... third-party apps... doesn't matter. They're all there.
I just tested it right before this to double-check.
Using resources or not I couldn't say but they are definitely in the tray.
If they're not "auto-launching" then why are they in the tray?

Apple put every recent app youve used in the tray, running or not. Their presence in the tray has 0 to do with if they are running or not. Even apps that dont multitask at all (example: drudgereport) will show up in the tray.

If you are jailbroken you can install an app called switchermod. This tweak only displays apps actualy using memory in the tray. Guess waht happens after a reboot? Tray is empty.
 
awesome article. thank you

Yes this is a good article, and those who read it might gain enough knowledge to figure out what I'm saying.

When you restart the phone, there are no apps in memory, and all apps are in their "closed state" (to use a term from the article). They are using 0 memory, and are 0% backgrounded.
 
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