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George Lucas retiring...

Yeah, IMHO he's been phoning it in for years.

Just watched the BR release of ROTJ for the first time and was reminded how corny some parts were (the Ewoks were kindof a cuter predecessor to Jar Jar), and how aged and worn Luke and Leia looked, but also the CGI montage of all the celebrating that got added at the end was just... wrong. It benefits nothing but the continuity with the prequels.
 
Such a shame no one reads anymore.

Any of you have any idea how many Star Wars novels there are, spanning literally thousands of years and weaving story lines together? Dozens upon dozens, upon dozens. Its fascinating. This is where Star Wars is actually interesting..

And guess what? Lucas himself approved major plot points of all the novels for years. He still remains a consultant on the teams of authors who work together to write series after series.

Much better work has be done across the few hundred novels. Star Wars episodes 1 thru 6, while interesting, are just 6 of hundreds.
 
pmz said:
Such a shame no one reads anymore.

Any of you have any idea how many Star Wars novels there are, spanning literally thousands of years and weaving story lines together? Dozens upon dozens, upon dozens. Its fascinating. This is where Star Wars is actually interesting..

And guess what? Lucas himself approved major plot points of all the novels for years. He still remains a consultant on the teams of authors who work together to write series after series.

Much better work has be done across the few hundred novels. Star Wars episodes 1 thru 6, while interesting, are just 6 of hundreds.
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I must admit that I haven't bought as many the last year, but I agree - I have a bookshelf full of these novels and there's more than enough for a TV series or a few movies :)

I mean, Chewie dies!!!!!

But I had read that Lucas wasn't very involved?
 
Keebler said:
I must admit that I haven't bought as many the last year, but I agree - I have a bookshelf full of these novels and there's more than enough for a TV series or a few movies :)

I mean, Chewie dies!!!!!

But I had read that Lucas wasn't very involved?
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"involved" meaning actually writing, no he's not done any writing.

He did specifically approve the plot point of Chewie dying in Vector Prime.

He has also approved the broad concepts for each of the many prominent series' that involve his created characters, such as New Jedi Order, Legacy of the Force, and the current Fate Of The Jedi series (all incredibly awesome and must reads for Star Wars fans).

But beyond that, no. And we're better off. Authors like Troy Denning, James Luceno, Aaron Allston, and to some extent Christie Golden & Karen Traviss....they all know the star wars universe inside and out, probably better than George himself. As well creating interesting stories, they stick to established guidelines, technology, and all other "canon" like its their religion.

Its awesome.
 
pmz said:
"involved" meaning actually writing, no he's not done any writing.

He did specifically approve the plot point of Chewie dying in Vector Prime.

He has also approved the broad concepts for each of the many prominent series' that involve his created characters, such as New Jedi Order, Legacy of the Force, and the current Fate Of The Jedi series (all incredibly awesome and must reads for Star Wars fans).

But beyond that, no. And we're better off. Authors like Troy Denning, James Luceno, Aaron Allston, and to some extent Christie Golden & Karen Traviss....they all know the star wars universe inside and out, probably better than George himself. As well creating interesting stories, they stick to established guidelines, technology, and all other "canon" like its their religion.

Its awesome.
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thanks for clarifying. I always wondered what he helped with.
I do need read these books with more consistently. I finished the new jedi order so not terribly behind, but behind the 8 ball :)
 
velocityg4 said:
Hopefully this means that we will finally get a Blu Ray release of the original Star Wars trilogy. No CGI, Greedo shoots first, changed music, skinny Jabba &c. Hopefully this means someone else will be taking over Lucas Arts.
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Don't forget about a restored version of the original and unaltered THX-1138.

Now that's what I'm waiting for. I have a friend who works at Lucasfilm, and I joke with him that we may have to wait until Lucas dies for that to happen.
 
TinHead88 said:
Since there seems to be some JJ Abrahams fans on here, could you enlighten me as to what he's done that makes you think he has the ability to do anything well at all?

I thought Lost was just silly. A big never ending tease. And the Star Trek reboot was an insult to any Star Trek fan. It doesn't deserve the genre label of sic-fi.

Sure if you'd like Star Wars to have more cool, beautiful people with motorbikes and shallow dialogue then let's get JJ to have a go.

The guy is successful because he panders to the middle ground as best as he can. He makes films like he's baking a cake, throwing in as many safe and proven elements to try to ensure financial success but the results are always so much less than they should have been if you're a bit more discerning.
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Star Wars may have shallow dialogue, but nothing is as shallow as the pool from which Shatner drew his acting ability.
 
The star wars trilogy (it's still a trilogy afaik) was pretty dynamic. The parts that were bright were realisticaly bright, but the parts that were dark were really really dark. But in Lucas' own words, what made it believable was that the artists went to such great lengths to make everything look realistic and lived-in. ...something he seems to have forgotten about in the years since.

The originals looked real, because everything in them was a real physical object.
The prequels looked like cartoons, because they were.

The way technology progresses, all CGI work looks like garbage by its fifth birthday.
 
Fresh Tendrils said:
Besides, George Lucas has plotted out a live action Star Wars TV series. That would be the most sensible project for someone else to pursue if they really want to. The problem is that no network wants to fund it because it's a lot cheaper to make reality TV. But maybe someone else can come to it fresh and find a way to bring production costs down, while still making a good program.
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I'd trust HBO to do it justice. Game of Thrones was a great adaptation, and Boardwalk Empire tells me they're willing to put the money into it when they need to.

Showtime would also probably do well with it, but I'm less sure they'd be willing to pony up the cash.

millar876 said:
But they (Hamill, ford, fisher ect) are arround the right age to be reprising there roles arround the time of the new jedi order, legacy of the force series, and the time between the fall of the empire and the yhuzan-vong invasion could easily be fleshed out on the crawl at the beginning of VII. And its a dark enough storyline for jj abrahms to get away with doing it.
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Let's be honest, though: if there's going to be a sequel trilogy based on any of the existing books, it just has to be the Thrawn trilogy. Plus NJO is too long even for 3 movies. Legacy of the Force could be made into three films (most of those books seemed like filler as it is), but I thought that storyline was pretty poor. Still, as a movie it might work...

You could easily take the basic plot from Zahn's books and time-shift them into the NJO time period. With a talented director, that would be my ideal sequel trilogy.
 
pmz said:
"involved" meaning actually writing, no he's not done any writing.

He did specifically approve the plot point of Chewie dying in Vector Prime.

He has also approved the broad concepts for each of the many prominent series' that involve his created characters, such as New Jedi Order, Legacy of the Force, and the current Fate Of The Jedi series (all incredibly awesome and must reads for Star Wars fans).

But beyond that, no. And we're better off. Authors like Troy Denning, James Luceno, Aaron Allston, and to some extent Christie Golden & Karen Traviss....they all know the star wars universe inside and out, probably better than George himself. As well creating interesting stories, they stick to established guidelines, technology, and all other "canon" like its their religion.

Its awesome.
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That goes contrary to what he says in interviews. In essence, he's been saying for years how he doesn't consider the expanded universe to be canon, but rather seems it as a parallele universe. Wikipedia has some great aggregation of quotes and interviews about it :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_canon#George_Lucas_and_Star_Wars_canon
 
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