German Airline Lufthansa Not Banning AirTags After All

[PinkyMacGodess]

I am a frequent international flyer, and my bags were never lost or late. I, however, never booked budget airlines.

I've had my luggage misplaced at hotels and cruises more than an airline. So far. One hotel took hours to find it. Of course it had my dress clothes in it, and I would have had to dress for dinner, but was given an excuse. It showed up after dinner.

I've had bags damaged on planes, but who hasn't at some point or another. Best place for luggage? TJMaxx.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

my quote wasn't about fire suppression or smoke detectors, although those are required in the USA now on airline aircraft even if they didn't originally have them. That rule has been in place for 21 years now. as for unpressurized and non-temperature controlled cargo holds I am unaware of any flying airline aircraft from a 737 and larger that has an unpressurized hold of any kind and for example the 737 was designed in the 60s. modern aircraft cargo holds are climate controlled although I can't claim that wasn't an option decades ago, I don't know that. bottom line is if you put your bag in a cargo hold of any large aircraft flying today you should expect the bag to be in an area that is both pressurized, climate controlled and with both thermal detection and protection.

It would seem that most deaths are due to heat stress and being ignored, or their cages being damaged. I am wondering why Delta is banning pets from their cargo holds on their 767's. Interesting...

How many regional jets have pressurized olds?

 

[canyonblue737]

It would seem that most deaths are due to heat stress and being ignored, or their cages being damaged. I am wondering why Delta is banning pets from their cargo holds on their 767's. Interesting...

How many regional jets have pressurized olds?

I just checked, all the major regional jets from Bombardier Canadair and Embraer have pressurized cargo compartments. I’m fairly certain all jet regional aircraft have pressurized holds, I didn’t extend my look to turboprops that are infrequently used now. I’m not sure on climate control in terms of air flow etc. on these smaller aircraft.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

I just checked, all the major regional jets from Bombardier Canadair and Embraer have pressurized cargo compartments. I’m fairly certain all jet regional aircraft have pressurized holds, I didn’t extend my look to turboprops that are infrequently used now. I’m not sure on climate control in terms of air flow etc. on these smaller aircraft.

I did have 'an incident' on a flight to TPA. I arrived at the hotel to discover that the can of spray sunscreen I had packed double bagged in my checked bag had somehow worked its way out of the ziplock bags and emptied half of its contents on an expensive sweater. I confronted the TSA when I got back to head home, and they blamed 'unpressurized cargo holds' for how it happened, then told me I had to file a claim on their website and wait for a resolution. The joys of air travel.

I'm glad Lufthansa saw the light on this. Wow... I saw this as potentially being the beginning of a huge wave of electronic hysteria by some carriers. I get that they don't want cell phones used on their planes (for calls) but hysterically blocking AirTags was an unforced error.

 

[Marli]

BTW, all cargo holds on pressurized planes are pressurized.. You can't just pressurise the part people are in.. but the holds may not be heated/cooled the same as where people are..

 

[tywebb13]

Now Air New Zealand are doing the same thing: https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news...shouldnt-use-baggage-trackers-in-checked-bags

I wonder how long it will be before they change their mind too. Or maybe they won’t.

As embarrassing as it was for Lufthansa I’m really glad they changed their mind. Airtags are really useful for finding lost stuff and pose no risk to aircraft.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Now Air New Zealand are doing the same thing: https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news...shouldnt-use-baggage-trackers-in-checked-bags

I wonder how long it will be before they change their mind too. Or maybe they won’t.

As embarrassing as it was for Lufthansa I’m really glad they changed their mind. Airtags are really useful for finding lost stuff and pose no risk to aircraft.

They are right, from a strict reading of the regulations, but the chances of a coin cell battery causing a fire is so insignificant to be nonexistent. Part of this is the airline industry has to account for every screw nut and bolt in their planes. Everything is measured, weighed, and tested to the hilt. They hate things that are out of their control, and larger batteries are a problem. Notebooks have started barbecue fires in airport terminals. eCigs have lit peoples pants on fire. An AirTag battery would have to rupture, and then shatter the AirTag, and then be next to something that was flammable enough for the small battery to ignite. Could it happen? Highly unlikely...

Hopefully they pull their head out and look at how foolish this is. People fly with watches and hearing aids every day! Are people's luggage going to be stripped of everything with a battery now?