How is the "fan-blade law" an ideal example of a bad ruling? EU decided on the smallest fan-grill allowed to keep fingers and the likes out of high speed fans, and companies were given 2 years to fix this. It's entirely Apple's fault that they didn't want to add a 1$ fanguard to their Mac Pro's.
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German Court Strikes Down Sections of Apple's Privacy Policy
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How is the "fan-blade law" an ideal example of a bad ruling? EU decided on the smallest fan-grill allowed to keep fingers and the likes out of high speed fans, and companies were given 2 years to fix this. It's entirely Apple's fault that they didn't want to add a 1$ fanguard to their Mac Pro's.
At last, American corporations are learning that what passes as "consumer protection" here in the states is nothing more than lip service. Perhaps, through these types of news articles, provincial Americans can finally see that other countries' governments actually protect their citizens against corporate abusers. Here in the US, our government is an enabler.
Ah good, I was wondering when the stereotyping insults would spread to include other country's in Europe...
No insult intended. I'm just replying that nothing is free. You end up paying for it one way or another.
Germanys GDP was 2645 Billion in 2012, thats 3460 Billion Dollar or 21% of europe's whole GDP. Good luck trying to buy it
Sad to see so many, being Incompetent
Actually many incompetent contributions from clueless people on this topic. However, the rest will care for them.
I am sad if Apple is using our data. So, this is a good move forward by Germany, they have learned their lessons from the past.
Actually many incompetent contributions from clueless people on this topic. However, the rest will care for them.
I am sad if Apple is using our data. So, this is a good move forward by Germany, they have learned their lessons from the past.
In a nutshell: It's pathetic.
Sure, its a 'nice idea' to help stop any kid who sticks their fingers in the back of a computer. However its not something that the likes of the EU should spend money on researching, testing, and implementing. Its a total waste of money to go to the lengths they did with the fan guard law. You may as well get them to start investigating sharp edges on Aluminium laptops, and stiff doorhandles that may cause a strain in the wrist.
Then there's the fact that it was an enforced law, and not a recommendation - they could have easily issued a recommendation to each EU government, suggesting they implement it. Forcing it is just pure stupidity, like many of the bonkers laws that seem to come out of Brussels these days!
Who has your back?
I think this is far more disturbing than anything related to Apple's privacy policy:
https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-2013
This list made me really disgusted with Apple. If the government wants access to my information, I should be notified. And no company should turn over my information without a warrant. Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, even Myspace (yes, they are still around...), score way better than Apple.
I sent this link to Tim Cook with a little note expressing my disappointment in Apple. I hope others do the same. This is shameful.
I think this is far more disturbing than anything related to Apple's privacy policy:
https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-2013
This list made me really disgusted with Apple. If the government wants access to my information, I should be notified. And no company should turn over my information without a warrant. Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, even Myspace (yes, they are still around...), score way better than Apple.
I sent this link to Tim Cook with a little note expressing my disappointment in Apple. I hope others do the same. This is shameful.
Too much risk. Germany is the EU's Creditor.
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Germanys GDP was 2645 Billion in 2012, thats 3460 Billion Dollar or 21% of europe's whole GDP. Good luck trying to buy it
LOL. Or, good luck keeping the EU together without it.
Definitely yes, they could adapt if they wanted (obviously they didn't).
Regardless, the specific EU rule is dumb.
Nach Klage des Verbraucherzentrale Bundesverbands (vzbv) hat das Gericht acht vom IT-Unternehmen verwendete Vertragsklauseln für unwirksam erklärt.
Well, "erklaert" may not be the case with legal jargon in German.
Well, "erklaert" may not be the case with legal jargon in German.
This. Each country should be allowed to choose if they want to follow totally or partially those rules. Having a global rule enforcement that we cannot vote down (as we could with local politicians/governments) feels absurd.
I think I've heard that UK is going to have a poll for such matters in the near future ? I really hope they will make a start and that the rest of the EU countries will follow.
This.
But if this was a Google article, these guys would have SOOOO much to say. When Google has privacy issues, all hell breaks lose. When Apple does it, they look the other way. Fanboyism at its best.
Thanks for the link. Yahoo isn't any better though, but they're nowadays mr irrelevant anyway.
Surprised to see Microsoft faired relatively well here, considering the stunt they pulled with Skype in China.
Yeah, for some stupid reason people do seem to trust Facebook the most? I guess it's that choice to be oblivious to the truths as it's a service you use so it MUST be fine?
I alway's proclaim Facebook would sell your very soul if they could steal it!
Its *supposed* to happen, but Mr Camoron has essentially said "We'll let you vote, but only if you vote for us in the next election. Then when we win, we'll let you choose if you want to stay in the EU". Sounds like crap to me.
In contrast we have a relatively small (and pretty hated) party called 'UK Independence Party' who want out of the EU. The way its going right now we'll end up with a coalition again, with UKIP being part of it.
If the EU doesn't start opening up and stop acting like a 1940's dictatorship, it'll loose more than just the UK.
This.
But if this was a Google article, these guys would have SOOOO much to say. When Google has privacy issues, all hell breaks lose. When Apple does it, they look the other way. Fanboyism at its best.
Nailed it.
I find this upsetting. Don't the Germans realize that a government that favors it's own citizens over corporations is .... well.... un-American!!!!????
European parliament is directly elected. Council of Ministers use the same ministers serving in the national governments. European Council has the same heads of states that head the national governments. Which part of the rule making you cannot elect, as opposed to the national variety?
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I guess it is good that 1940s dictatorships are such a distant memory that you have no idea how far from a dictatorship you actually live in.
Ill be honest, that as a apple fan for a very long time, I had no idea they are sharing my information with other companies. I'm really curious as to what exactly they're sharing. I guess those privacy policies they make you agree to should be read. Lol
Apple should just pull all products from Germany until the entire court travels to Cupertino and asks Tim Cook for forgiveness for striking down Apple's privacy policy! Until that happens, let Germans suffer by only being allowed to buy cheap plastic Android phones and tablets!
(I recall reading something similar after the Brazilian 'iPhone' trademark lawsuit by someone who actually meant it...)
(I recall reading something similar after the Brazilian 'iPhone' trademark lawsuit by someone who actually meant it...)
MacRumors ought to have a separate court reporting section
Things will be fought about in courts, lawyers will get rich, but will anything ever really get better?
MR should put up a lawyers scoreboard with info from "research notes" published by analysts to see which law firm is in the lead and has the biggest legal market share.
All sponsored by Dewey, Cheatem and How.
Make that two scoreboards. One for iOS and one for Android.
And, every quarter we'd see the lawyer earnings report.
Shortly before Xmas a WWDC type event.
SFRC = Sue For Riches Conference with the latest release of cAS (Class Action Suit) where they develop new legal talent.
Wondering if there is an app for that yet.
Not defending Apple, just highlighting that once we go outside (real nature or on the internet) we leave so much data about ourselves that it is a pipe dream that that data is safe, just because somebody says it is or a court specifies that companies have to be more precise with their wording.
As somebody else already posted probably 99.9% will just click "I agree" to make that box go away.